Is the DTV a better long-term visa option compared to the retirement visa in Thailand?

Oct 18, 2024
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Jimmy *****
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It looks like DTV is worth considering as an alternative long-term visa that can be renewed every 180 days (or 6 months) and its requirements seem easier than retirement visa to meet - do you think so?
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The DTV (Digital Nomad Visa) has emerged as a potential alternative to the traditional retirement visa in Thailand, particularly for those under 50. It can be renewed every 180 days, which is simpler than the retirement visa's requirements. However, the DTV has its drawbacks, such as the need for visa runs every six months and uncertainty regarding requirement changes from immigration authorities. Some community members believe it could be a more favorable option for younger expats and those not planning to work permanently. Others express concerns about the future of the DTV, citing a lack of clarity and potential changes from Thai immigration. Overall, individuals' specific circumstances, including age and financial status, greatly influence the choice between the DTV and retirement visa.
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Bryan ******
I feel this Visa will be short lived. Thailand will hopefully be cautious on the numbers and quality of candidates they allow in. Or the very reason people want to live there will be in question. Just my opinion.
Pat *****
@Bryan *****
yes and if DTV stopped in 5y, what will be the conditions than to enter Thailand or to get a new non-o and extensions....
Bryan ******
@Pat ****
I agree. We don’t so much of an influx in people that prices begin to soar…..and the Thai people pay the ultimate price. It’s happening in other countries.

You want solid quality people …..not volume

And as far as border runs….im not a fan. Pay the money and get visas the right way. You’re cheating the Thai people of money. Or enjoy your 60 days and go home. And return next year to enjoy
Divya **********
@Bryan *****
It’s already very controversial visa. We just need a couple of bad news of foreigners on DTV getting into conflict with a Thai for this visa to be scrapped off. In my opinion this visa will be discontinued by the mid quarter next year. Specially since this visa was also launched during the previous government, which has been replaced since with a new Prime Minister.
Jason ******
I'm retired at 53,so I can't show working online and no income ,only savings that I live on,so does that make DTV Vida impossible to get and retirement visa better option ?
Andi ***********
@Jason *****
you can also get a DTV via medical treatment or cultural activity.
Andi ***********
For those that plan to work online and 50 plus then DTV is the better option, i think.
Oliver ********
DTV is better than retirement visa, except for people who never travel abroad.
Baz *********
Depends entirely on your individual circumstances, age, financial situation, income from external sources outside Thailand (if any) so quite a range of things to consider.
Steven *********
I don't even think there is a decision to make ...

I was ready to go down the hassle of a retirement visa .. then the DTV came up and blew the rest out the water .. even some in the Elite visa group are not happy about how good the new DTV is.
Terary **********
You can bet Pattaya will have an added requirement of tea money.
Chris *********
Yes I did myself so easy to do
David ********
Who needs a bank account in Thailand. My account in Aus allows me to make 5 overseas withdrawals a month and the Thailand ATM fee is refunded to my account in Australia. I also receive 5.5% interest with some conditions which I always meet. The exchange rate is as good as you can get, and your money received is instant. Usually, Bt20,000 max at a time is very convenient.
Al**
@David *******
You just withdrawal using debit card at a local ATM in Thailand? Any idea what the conversion fee is?
David ********
Yes, my super has been much better, but I'm talking about bank interest, which is instantly available.
John *********
@David *******
I get on average just over 10% for the last 10 years
Richard *******
@David *******
Wow, can you tell me which Australian bank account is that with?
David ********
ING Australia but I think you have to be a resident of Australia. Its requirements are published on line.
Paul *****
@Richard ******
yes..which bank?
Brandon ************
No one can really answer this. The visa only started 3 months ago and Thai embassies have already started to tighten up the requirements a lot from when it was first released. No one, not even immigration, knows what will be required for the 6 month extension. They could require you to prove all over again the reason you got the visa in the first place, and at some point that could potentially also become a requirement to enter the country on the visa after the first time. No one really knows what the future holds because it's so new. So you can either roll the dice with the new visa and pay 10k baht for the chance along with constant border bounces, or go with the sure thing which is the retirement visa at 1900 baht per year (and no required border bounces either).
Conny **********
@Brandon ***********
not likely since it is a 5 year visa. They might stop issuing them. So that means 5 years ahead of time. You don't have that on the rest. Just look at what happened to non OA.
Graham ******
@Conny *********
What happened to the Non-OA?
Chris *********
@Brandon ***********
50k

I paid £300 and was easy to do.

There is a video on line with second in command of immigration and he explains everything about what’s happens at the end of the 6 months can extend or can leave and return.

Iv left the country twice already and it as been extended back to 6 months.

So easy.
Brandon ************
@Chris ********
first of all he's not in immigration, he's in the MFA and has absolutely no say about anything to do with immigration. Second of all, nothing he says matters and things can change any time like they already have at many embassies about applying for the visa.

Leaving the country is not an extension. You get an extension from the immigration office.
Martin *******
I thought the same. It's worth considering as an alternative option. The downside might be that it's more difficult to open bank accounts as it's considered a tourist visa.
Andi ***********
@Martin ******
Very easy with an agent.
Dieter *******
@Martin ******
most agents can open for you. Around 4k
Paul ********
Retirement visa renewal, don't have to leave the Country. May be a consideration for some,
Kace *******
seems like it could easily be terminated after 6 months
Leslie ********
@Kace ******
yes could it could in Thailand nothing is set in concrete
Andi ***********
@Kace ******
why do you think so?
Rich ****
@Andi **********
If you are no longer attending classes or your job or medical treatment ends
Andi ***********
@Rich ***
There is no minimum income requirement with the DTV. An online volunteer gained a DTV, people on low online incomes are approved. The key is having the 500K banked. Those not attending classes or medical treatment no idea how that will be treated,
Micah ********
@Andi **********
Can you clarify? Meaning they volunteered in their home country online, or they were volunteering in Thailand?
Andi ***********
@Micah *******
Volunteer in their home country. DTV is only for online work outside of Thailand.
Micah ********
@Andi **********
Okay, that's how I understood it too. So I was hoping someone found a legal workaround. 😂
Paulie ********
Million % retirement 20k a year DTV is 12k for 5 years only down fall visa run every 6 month or let's hope no issues to get extension at immergration this won't be clear untill December/January as the visa was live from July.
Greta *****
@Paulie *******
Retirement is 1900 Baht a year. No idea where you got 20k from...
Tracey *******
@Greta ****
Don’t you have to show money in the bank though? 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account?
Greta *****
@Tracey ******
Yes you do so what's the problem with that? Does that cost you 20k per year?
Tracey *******
Its a lot of money laying around stagnant in a bank account as you do have to show it every year. So yes it’s a problem if you haven’t got a spare £18,600.
Graham ******
@Tracey ******
You don't have to show 800k every year, you can use the 65k international transfer per month for your 2nd extension and onwards
Conny **********
@Tracey ******
then shows income or transfer of 65k THB per month...
Paulie ********
@Greta ****
yes if donit yourself and have the 800k in 6 months before and after each year and only a singel entry so each time you leave re entry is what 2k? And a 1 year multi entry is 5k so....
Greta *****
@Paulie *******
And what CAN'T you do it yourself? 🤔
Paulie ********
@Greta ****
can do everthing but for me the DTV wich i have is far better i turn 50 next year and I have DTV untill Sept 2029 no re entry visa to do nothing best visa i think personally
Greta *****
@Paulie *******
Ok fair enough. May I ask on which path did you apply? Digital nomad or soft power?
Paulie ********
@Greta ****
soft power medical treatment.
Greta *****
@Paulie *******
Does it have to be on going treatment or one off also acceptable? If you don't mind me asking
Pete *******
Excellent option for those under 50
Steve *************
@Pete ******
I’m over 50 and married to a Thai, and have just come and gone on the stamp on arrival as I am Australian, and that suits me well atm, as I work 2 months on then 2 months off. But I will certainly look at one early next year.👍
David ************
@Pete ******
or over 50
Andi ***********
@Pete ******
Also for older as many 50 plus work online,
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