Is the DTV a better long-term visa option compared to the retirement visa in Thailand?

Oct 18, 2024
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Jimmy *****
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It looks like DTV is worth considering as an alternative long-term visa that can be renewed every 180 days (or 6 months) and its requirements seem easier than retirement visa to meet - do you think so?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The conversation centers around the Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) as a potential alternative to the retirement visa in Thailand. Many participants discuss the DTV's easier requirements and the 180-day renewal cycle, contrasting it with the retirement visa's benefits, such as no need for border runs. Some express concerns regarding the DTV's long-term viability and potential tightening of regulations, as the visa is relatively new and has seen changing requirements already. Others share personal experiences with banking and accessing funds in Thailand as they navigate visa options.
DTV VISA RESOURCES / SERVICES
Raj *******
not good visa so many problems at airport
David ********
I have only had retirement visas issued from the Thai Embassy in Canberra and used the surrender value of my super fund to prove that I had the funds available. The nice lady at the Embassy said "This way makes it much easier for us, don't say any other money you may have, that will only confuse Thai Immigration in Bangkok, they go overnight to Immigration in Bangkok and come a few days later" It took less than a week to be received by mail in W.A. I also had to get the police report $70 stating no warrants were outstanding and a doctor's medical report to prove I did not have any social disease (Ha! Ha!), yes short arm parade all witnessed by a neighbour who is a J.P. (oops! not the short arm parade, most military men know about that), He said this was all B/S and also pay $300 to the Embassy. All presented 3 full copy sets of 30 pages altogether. Details are on the Thailand website. not really so hard if you know the ropes, and you still have the Bt800,000 to spend as you like. Also, the retirement visa is multi-entry. Before the 1st year expires you can do a border run before it expires and return and be granted a 12-month extension free of charge, it can be good for 2 years. All my other trips have been 90-day tourist visas obtained from the Thai Consul in Perth. That no longer exists.
Bryan ******
I feel this Visa will be short lived. Thailand will hopefully be cautious on the numbers and quality of candidates they allow in. Or the very reason people want to live there will be in question. Just my opinion.
Pat *****
@Bryan *****
yes and if DTV stopped in 5y, what will be the conditions than to enter Thailand or to get a new non-o and extensions....
Bryan ******
@Pat ****
this is a money grab by the Thai government. But. I think it will backfire.if anything. They need to lessen restrictions on legitimate long term visas for people over 50. This was not the answer. You need established people, with real money and income coming that will be good for the country. Not YouTube bloggers. Sorry. But it’s true
Bryan ******
@Pat ****
I agree. We don’t so much of an influx in people that prices begin to soar…..and the Thai people pay the ultimate price. It’s happening in other countries.

You want solid quality people …..not volume

And as far as border runs….im not a fan. Pay the money and get visas the right way. You’re cheating the Thai people of money. Or enjoy your 60 days and go home. And return next year to enjoy
Divya **********
@Bryan *****
It’s already very controversial visa. We just need a couple of bad news of foreigners on DTV getting into conflict with a Thai for this visa to be scrapped off. In my opinion this visa will be discontinued by the mid quarter next year. Specially since this visa was also launched during the previous government, which has been replaced since with a new Prime Minister.
Jason ******
I'm retired at 53,so I can't show working online and no income ,only savings that I live on,so does that make DTV Vida impossible to get and retirement visa better option ?
Andi ***********
@Jason *****
you can also get a DTV via medical treatment or cultural activity.
Andi ***********
For those that plan to work online and 50 plus then DTV is the better option, i think.
Oliver ********
DTV is better than retirement visa, except for people who never travel abroad.
Baz *********
Depends entirely on your individual circumstances, age, financial situation, income from external sources outside Thailand (if any) so quite a range of things to consider.
Steven *********
I don't even think there is a decision to make ...

I was ready to go down the hassle of a retirement visa .. then the DTV came up and blew the rest out the water .. even some in the Elite visa group are not happy about how good the new DTV is.
Terary **********
You can bet Pattaya will have an added requirement of tea money.
Chris *********
Yes I did myself so easy to do
David ********
Who needs a bank account in Thailand. My account in Aus allows me to make 5 overseas withdrawals a month and the Thailand ATM fee is refunded to my account in Australia. I also receive 5.5% interest with some conditions which I always meet. The exchange rate is as good as you can get, and your money received is instant. Usually, Bt20,000 max at a time is very convenient. I have never had a bank a/c in Thailand in 15 years. My retirement visas were obtained from the Thai Embassy in Canberra where you have to prove you have equal to Bt800,000 in a bank, and the surrender value of your super is accepted as money in the bank in Aus. No conditions are placed once you get to Thailand. You can just leave it in your Australian bank Account and use it as required from ATMs. That is my experience 2 times in the past. I now just visit Thailand visa-free for 2 months, and a 30-day extension for Bt1900 from Immigration at Blupoint (no e) Shopping Centre Hua Hin.

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Jo **********
@David *******
thanks for your question, yes I need bank account in Thailand can you help me
Al**
@David *******
You just withdrawal using debit card at a local ATM in Thailand? Any idea what the conversion fee is?
David ********
@Al**
...My calculation I do every time I get Bt20,000 and it is less than Money Changers will give you. Usually about 1%, My other bank ANZ charges $6 for the transaction and the ATM fee plus 3% of the transaction, which costs about B900 to get Bt20,000. I have that ANZ account debit card to get my super payment. My super is managed by ANZ. Both ING and ANZ change like a wounded bull if using a credit card..
David ********
Yes, my super has been much better, but I'm talking about bank interest, which is instantly available.
John *********
@David *******
I get on average just over 10% for the last 10 years
Richard *******
@David *******
Wow, can you tell me which Australian bank account is that with?
David ********
ING Australia but I think you have to be a resident of Australia. Its requirements are published on line.
David *********
@David *******
are you still a resident after 15 years?
David ********
Yes, I own a house, a camper van and all my super in an Australian fund as well as Australian bank accounts with (ING) and ANZ. I am 83 y/o and still active and blessed that way and still walk 6 km every day, as I have done now for 47 years every day. and still do it in just about the same time as when I started, but I now break into 2 times 3 km.
Paul *****
@Richard ******
yes..which bank?
Brandon ************
No one can really answer this. The visa only started 3 months ago and Thai embassies have already started to tighten up the requirements a lot from when it was first released. No one, not even immigration, knows what will be required for the 6 month extension. They could require you to prove all over again the reason you got the visa in the first place, and at some point that could potentially also become a requirement to enter the country on the visa after the first time. No one really knows what the future holds because it's so new. So you can either roll the dice with the new visa and pay 10k baht for the chance along with constant border bounces, or go with the sure thing which is the retirement visa at 1900 baht per year (and no required border bounces either).
Conny **********
@Brandon ***********
not likely since it is a 5 year visa. They might stop issuing them. So that means 5 years ahead of time. You don't have that on the rest. Just look at what happened to non OA.
Graham ******
@Conny *********
What happened to the Non-OA?
Conny **********
@Graham *****
it was really easy and then they added insurance. To renew there were only twelve Thai companies on the list with really bad and expensive insurance. So you neded an extra international anyway....
Graham ******
@Conny *********
Non-OA has always had an insurance requirement is my understanding but I thought the insurance level (Baht) was decreasing so what is your point?
Conny **********
@Graham *****
no , when I got non is in 2018 there where no request for insurance. And the first change was for 400k insurance, second 3m and now they are back to 400k.
Chris *********
@Brandon ***********
50k

I paid £300 and was easy to do.

There is a video on line with second in command of immigration and he explains everything about what’s happens at the end of the 6 months can extend or can leave and return.

Iv left the country twice already and it as been extended back to 6 months.

So easy.
Brandon ************
@Chris ********
first of all he's not in immigration, he's in the MFA and has absolutely no say about anything to do with immigration. Second of all, nothing he says matters and things can change any time like they already have at many embassies about applying for the visa.

Leaving the country is not an extension. You get an extension from the immigration office.
Martin *******
I thought the same. It's worth considering as an alternative option. The downside might be that it's more difficult to open bank accounts as it's considered a tourist visa.
Andi ***********
@Martin ******
Very easy with an agent.
Dieter *******
@Martin ******
most agents can open for you. Around 4k
Paul ********
Retirement visa renewal, don't have to leave the Country. May be a consideration for some,
Kace *******
seems like it could easily be terminated after 6 months
Leslie ********
@Kace ******
yes could it could in Thailand nothing is set in concrete
Andi ***********
@Kace ******
why do you think so?
Rich ****
@Andi **********
If you are no longer attending classes or your job or medical treatment ends
Andi ***********
@Rich ***
There is no minimum income requirement with the DTV. An online volunteer gained a DTV, people on low online incomes are approved. The key is having the 500K banked. Those not attending classes or medical treatment no idea how that will be treated,
Micah ********
@Andi **********
Can you clarify? Meaning they volunteered in their home country online, or they were volunteering in Thailand?
Andi ***********
@Micah *******
Volunteer in their home country. DTV is only for online work outside of Thailand.
Micah ********
@Andi **********
Okay, that's how I understood it too. So I was hoping someone found a legal workaround. 😂
Paulie ********
Million % retirement 20k a year DTV is 12k for 5 years only down fall visa run every 6 month or let's hope no issues to get extension at immergration this won't be clear untill December/January as the visa was live from July.
Jo **********
@Paulie *******
stop spreading misinformation it’s not 20k
Paulie ********
@Jo *********
is if use a agent because not capable or don't have the 800k 6 months either side of application
Jo **********
Greta *****
@Paulie *******
Retirement is 1900 Baht a year. No idea where you got 20k from...
Tracey *******
@Greta ****
Don’t you have to show money in the bank though? 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account?
Greta *****
@Tracey ******
Yes you do so what's the problem with that? Does that cost you 20k per year?
Tracey *******
Its a lot of money laying around stagnant in a bank account as you do have to show it every year. So yes it’s a problem if you haven’t got a spare £18,600.
Graham ******
@Tracey ******
You don't have to show 800k every year, you can use the 65k international transfer per month for your 2nd extension and onwards
Conny **********
@Tracey ******
then shows income or transfer of 65k THB per month...
Paulie ********
@Greta ****
yes if donit yourself and have the 800k in 6 months before and after each year and only a singel entry so each time you leave re entry is what 2k? And a 1 year multi entry is 5k so....
Greta *****
@Paulie *******
And what CAN'T you do it yourself? 🤔
Paulie ********
@Greta ****
can do everthing but for me the DTV wich i have is far better i turn 50 next year and I have DTV untill Sept 2029 no re entry visa to do nothing best visa i think personally
Greta *****
@Paulie *******
Ok fair enough. May I ask on which path did you apply? Digital nomad or soft power?
Paulie ********
@Greta ****
soft power medical treatment.
Greta *****
@Paulie *******
Does it have to be on going treatment or one off also acceptable? If you don't mind me asking
Pete *******
Excellent option for those under 50
Steve *************
@Pete ******
I’m over 50 and married to a Thai, and have just come and gone on the stamp on arrival as I am Australian, and that suits me well atm, as I work 2 months on then 2 months off. But I will certainly look at one early next year.👍
David ************
@Pete ******
or over 50
Andi ***********
@Pete ******
Also for older as many 50 plus work online,
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