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Do I need to complete a TM30 when staying with my girlfriend in her rented condo in Thailand?

Geoff ************
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Hi. When I visit Thailand I stay with my g/f in her rented condo near Rangsit. I'm never usually there for more than 2 months at a time, a few times a year.

In the past, when I had to apply for a 60 day visa, (from UK) I completed a TM30 myself with all of her details etc & took to the local Immigration Office. Only on one occasion did the Officer take any action & stamped the receipt part of TM30 & returned to me. On the 2nd occasion, I did the same thing but was told by a different official that TM 30 was NOT required. When I queried this, she said if questioned, just to say the Immigration Officer has stated "Not Required."

I'm sure I'm obliged to compete. Anyone else had to deal with this type of situation where partner is in rented accommodation? Thanks.
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The original poster inquired about the necessity of filling out a TM30 form while staying at their girlfriend's rented condo in Thailand. Based on community feedback, it's suggested that if returning to the same registered address within a certain period, a new TM30 may not be required. The obligation generally falls on the property owner or landlord to register the foreigner. Users noted that interactions with immigration services could necessitate an updated TM30, particularly if planning to seek visa extensions or other immigration services.
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John *********
John *********
Well now you get visa exempt for 60days.Unless you are planning an extension dont worry about it.
Geoff ************
Geoff ************
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@John ********
yeah, no problem with the 60 days mate, it's the completion of the TM30 I'm querying....will give you a call later!
Ralph *******
Ralph *******
@Geoff ***********
I stay with my girlfriend and she came with me to immigration. They didn’t ask for a TM30, just asked her for the address. Perhaps it’s different if she owns the property?
Ralph *******
Ralph *******
If you are only staying two months, why do you bother with a visa?
Geoff ************
Geoff ************
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@Ralph ******
I'm from the UK. Until recently, any visit to Thailand over 30 days needed a Tourist Visa for 60 days stay, unless you had it extended by 30 days at the local Thai Immigration Office. A visa prior to travel saved the hassle of the in-country extension.
Christopher ***********
Christopher ***********
@Ralph ******
‘a few times a year’.
Ralph *******
Ralph *******
@Christopher **********
But that still fine. If it’s only a few times.
Jim ********
Jim ********
If you're not going to an immigration office for anything else don't even worry about it. No-one is ever going to request it unless you visit immigration for an extension etc
Steve *******
Steve *******
Technically it's your girlfriend's landlord or your girlfriend(using the owners details) who is required to file the TM30 if you stay in her "rented condo"
Chris *******
Chris *******
All foreigners are required to have a current/updated TM30.

However if you are not having any interactions with immigration, extensions of any kind, Residence certificates, etc., It's not an issue.

So if you are going to have to go to immigration for something, update it first.
Anthony ******************
Anthony ******************
It i painful when required as the person who owns the place you are staying at has to be registered. you can book into a hotel for the night and they will register you,
Tony ********
Tony ********
The IO is correct, under the law if you are returning to the previously registered accomodation within the check out period, you do not have to create a new tm30 record. However, if you need to interact with the imigration office during your stay some offices require an updated TM30 where your check in date is greater than your last arrival date. Get your girlfriend to set up an online account which means you can do it from home.
Geoff ************
Geoff ************
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Thanks all - will sort before I go.....
Geoff ************
Geoff ************
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@Tony *******
thanks, but can she set up an account even if she is only renting the condo & not the owner?
Tony ********
Tony ********
@Geoff ***********
yes, if shes on a long term rental, as Jan said she just need a copy of blue book first page, and copy of owners ID, to set up and register the address.
Jan ******************
Jan ******************
@Geoff ***********
I know several people who do this, but the owner have provided them with copies of the house book and the owners ID-card.
Geoff ************
Geoff ************
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@Jan *****************
OK thanks for that. I'll ask her to check with the Juristic Office for their take on it.....
Henrik *****
Henrik *****
Perhaps the officer just meant, that it is not you, the traveller, who are obligated to do the TM30, but the houseowner ( girlfriend ).
Jan ******************
Jan ******************
@Henrik ****
Then it’s still would be required.
Jan ******************
Jan ******************
If you re-enter to same address as you’ve stayed and registered before, several immigrations don’t require an updated TM.30 on top of the old one. Has nothing to do with a rented or self own condo.
Andre ***********
Andre ***********

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