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What are the consequences of multiple border runs and how can one stay longer in Thailand?

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Jan 10, 2024
10 months ago
Valentin ********
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Hello everybody 🙂

My Girl just arrived in Bangkok this Morning with her TR Visa, she visited Thailand for about 8 Months from 2022 to April 2023, now the Guys at the Immigration at the Airport pulled her out and told her she has to Book a flight back Home cause she did Border Runs on her Last visit.. they ve discussed a little and then told her to pay 2000 Baht, have her the Extension so she now can stay 90 days but told her she has to leave Thailand After 90 days and she Not allowed to do a Border Run!

Does somebody here can Tell me what happened there? Will she get Problems if she ll do a Border run in 90 days? Cause she would like to stay longer in Thailand…

Best of wishes,

Valentin
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A user reports that his girlfriend, who recently entered Thailand on a TR Visa, was told at immigration that she had to return home due to her history of multiple border runs during her previous stay. She was given a 90-day extension after paying 2000 Baht but was warned not to attempt another border run. The community discusses the implications of her situation, the tightening of border run rules, and the importance of securing the appropriate long-term visa to avoid issues with immigration.
Leighton ********
Usually if you do the TR visa applications and not just border hopping then they wont have a problem.

As long as you spend money and go through the regular TR visa process each time then they dont usually care. Just dont be hopping back and forth and not bringing the TR board revenue.

Also they prefer to see flights to a different country and a flight back in vs doing Land Border Hops
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Kratos ******
Just fly out and re-enter. Get the correct longstay visa and no issues. You can beat a system but for so long, then take more of a risk of getting flagged or blacklisted
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Patrycja ********
Lol just pay those 200 usd to get a multiple entry TR, and there's no problem... why being cheap?
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Oliver ********
I doubt an 8-month visit nearly a year ago would raise any particular concerns, unless it included a period of overstay.

Sometimes (rarely and randomly) the border officers just ask to see evidence of a flight out of Thailand for foreigners entering without long-term visas - so it's worth booking a flexible flight and/or being ready to book something quickly if asked.

To avoid future problems, she could get multi-entry tourist visas, and when doing a "border bounce" always spend a while outside the country - people who are in a rush to get back in raise suspicions of working illegally.
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Terary **********
The ''she dunno" was the cause of her problems. I have a questionable visa history. Don't listen to these other people in this group, Thailand is very flexible about who they let it. But they do randomly pull people aside and ask for further documentation and it's best to have that documentation.

Nationality is a big factor also.
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Valentin ********
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@Oliver *******
 Thank you for this helpfull answer, she aint ever had a overstay in thailand..

I guess she had to Pay this 2000 Baht because she was asked on arrival how Long she will stay and she told em she dunno and had no flight back Home.. Immigration Forced her then to pay the 2000 and told her she shouldnt do border run and no Extension so they told her she gonna have to leave After her 60 day TR Visa…

But why they told her she shouldnt Go for Extension?
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Jonathan **************************
It's unusual this happened after she spent over half a year outside of the country, but this still serves as a teachable moment regarding staying here on border hops and tourist visas.

"But I know (person) who stayed here for two or three years on tourist visas and/or bounces", "So, what, it just depends on the whims of the IO?", "But, I haven't broken any laws or rules".

Yep, yep, and yep. That's basically how it works. There are no written, fixed rules or policies on how long someone can be here on short-term stays (apart from no more than two land entries per calendar year).

The answer to the question of "how long can I stay here on short-term stays" is, basically, you can keep doing it until you can't any longer.

When the "can't any longer" time comes will vary from person to person, and will depend on which immigration officer you get in front of you.

But eventually the point will come where they look at your history and say "no more", and sadly, this seems to have arrived for her now.
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Jeanette ********
Ron phillips. Of interest to Paul c
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Yayah **************
Visa run This is when the tourist visa that the Immigration stamps upon entering the country is about to expire. Foreigners who still want to stay in Thailand will travel out of Thailand via the border such as Aranyaprathet, and then return back in again on the same day. Thai Immigration at the border There will be a stamp to continue staying in Thailand. The period of time spent in Thailand How many days will depend on each race?

But from now on, Immigration will be more strict. That is, if anyone has a history of entering and exiting Thailand has crossed the border so many times that it seems unlikely that this is normal for tourists. Immigration officials have the right to not allow entry into the country. In the news, it is said that they will consider it on a case-by-case basis.

It's like the law hasn't changed. Just take the existing laws. But let's take it more seriously. Let foreigners apply for the correct type of visa to enter the country. Because most foreigners with visas run Won't be a tourist is coming to work in Thailand
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Chai *********
Educ Visa.
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William ***********
We were told at the passport/immigration center in Banhkok that they no longer issue more than 60 days including the initial 30 on arrival. After that we can only get another 7 days. Total, 67 days. We could have had a longer visa if we had applied for it in Canada at the Thai Embassy.
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Dan ********
Hardly the immigration crime of the century, give them a break. There's people with 1000+ days overstay out there, some with criminal charges, others working illegally for years, some of these with serious criminal charges in there home countries, using Thailand as a hideaway, and your busting this girls balls for what ? I think any immigration rules would be there regardless of this couple, or any number of offenders....do you think there would be no rules if there was never any offenders ?
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Henrik *****
When trying to misuse the visasystem, and conststantly trying to stay as a tourist, when obviously not being a tourist, then at some point the Immigration will say stop.

Probably if she had a returnticket, (and not only a onwardticket to a neighboring country ) as it is known you should have when entering Thailand, the the system wouldn’t have flagged her to a serious talk et the immigration.
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@Henrik ****
 how does the system know that you have a return ticket?
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Henrik *****
They could ask you simply.
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@Henrik ****
 Is that a rule that you need a return ticket to country of departure? Don't think so but willing to stand corrected.
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@John ********
 I think you might be right, HOWEVER, if someone is deliberately trying to screw the immigration system, they should have the extra precaution handy. Thai immigration doesn’t do favors for people. Their function is to stop people from attempting to live here without proper documentation, trying to pass as tourists. A return ticket to my home country is more credible than a cheap ticket out on a low cost airline or a completely bogus airline ticket.
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Henrik *****
You have to be able to show that you intend to leave Thailand within the visascheme you enter Thailand on, and that is done by having a returnflight or onwardticket.

You may even get rejected at check-in in your departure airport.
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Soronak **********
My friend 🇵🇭 had the same problem last month.She arrived with her English boyfriend and asked her to let the bf talk to them about it He was told he can help her by paying 5000 baht.The problem was about a Non O visa 3 mo's she had during covid 2020 they said not good.But when the farang paid the money he was told to hide the money.
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Graham *******
you can only do 2 border runs in a 12 month period.
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Noel **********
@Graham ******
 land border runs. And its in a calendar year I think.
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@Noel *********
 land yes.
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Brown ********
April 23 was over 8 months ago. Seems strange being out of the country that long they did this
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Allen **************
She has to change a new passport to avoid such issues
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@Allen *************
 changing passport wont make a difference, immigration will have it on the computer.
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@Wayne ****
 not so sure about that I have two passports.

Before covid days I got flagged on one so I entered on another both British both biometric.
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@Michael *******
 how did you manage to get two from UK passport service. I was told 'no of course not' but then hearing other countries have oblidged their citizens. You still have 2 now ? Did you have to show anything with regards to proving a need ? What's is/was your line of work, if you don't mind me asking .....
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@Dan *******
 I work offshore and on ships so i am allowed two passports because some visas take a long time to process. Yes still have two its useful.

Yes you need a letter from your company explaining the reason why you need a second passport
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@Michael *******
 handy to know, and handy to have. Not as handy as two passports in two different names though. 😜
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@Dan *******
 5555 yes
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@Wayne ****
 yes because all Thai government computers are fully functioning and data has never been lost, and systems are never down. If you've got concerns about your own history, the last thing you should be doing, is telling them everything they need to know, in writing, in a legal document. Dont do their work for them. Let them show what they have on you. As you would be wise to say to authorities under questioning, "no comment officer". Anything you say will be used against you.
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@Wayne ****
 they have it in their computer but due to new passport with lesser stamp sometimes they will overlook. I used to have such issues after changing passport, I dun have such issues anymore
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Radius ******************
She dint follow rules

Need flights in an out set

She. Ay be batrwd for a year or 2 from returning on anything other then 30 day tourist
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Martin **********
You not give enough detail. The nationality of your girl, can be a determinate factor. Philippine stay here with bf, or to work, and do all tricks to stay as long as possible.
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Bobby *********
You guys sound like a bunch of Thailand lawyers 🙄 just saying 🙄
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David ********
Immigration want you to get the correct visa not do border runs I’ve was told 15 months ago the same thing so I got a visa no problem
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Matthew **********
Easy. Cheap flight in 90 days to neighbours capital. Check into a place for a week with the passport. Go to Thai Embassy. Apply for 90 days visa.
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@Matthew *********
 If you read the post, she already had a visa, and was trying to enter after 8 months outside TH.

You're not fooling anyone by staying a week in Kuala Lumpur.

Also, visa in your passport or not, entry is *always* at the discretion of the immigration officer in front of you. Having a visa is *not* a guaranteed entry ticket.

Also, there is no such thing as a 90-day tourist visa. There are 60-day visas, with the option to extend 30 further days.
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@Jonathan *************************
*Jesus. She's literally saying "did a border run last time" then talk of a border run next time. So I did read it.

Secondly, there is a world of difference between applying for a 60+30 visa at a Thai Embassy and turning up at the border. Theyask for accommodation proof etc. Completely different thing

Thirdly, we know it's 60 days 30 extention. That's not the problem here. If she can get the 60 then the extra 30 is easy and virtually guarenteed. Nobody needs to point this out

Fourthly, don't bother replying ,I won't get it anyway as blocked you for being a tool.
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@Matthew *********
 it’s a sixty day visa.
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@Noel *********
 yes. Guarenteed to be accepted for a 30day extension. There's is no issue here with that. We know this. Its a different point that's the debate.
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Blade ********
The law says there is no maximum stay per your or whatever on visa exemption. So why are the immigration officers breaking the law by rejecting people with false claims like not enough money because of too much visa exemptions / border bounces? 🤡
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Dan ********
Even if there is no written law specific to how long you can stay in Thailand on the various tourist visas in any calendar year, it will be covered by a generic law regarding abuse of the system, or using a visa not suitable for the purpose of the visit etc. And they Hello everybody 🙂

My Girl just arrived in Bangkok this Morning with her TR Visa, she visited Thailand for about 8 Months from 2022 to April 2023, now the Guys at the Immigration at the Airport pulled her out and told her she has to Book a flight back Home cause she did Border Runs on her Last visit.. they ve discussed a little and then told her to pay 2000 Baht, have her the Extension so she now can stay 90 days but told her she has to leave Thailand After 90 days and she Not allowed to do a Border Run!

Does somebody here can Tell me what happened there? Will she get Problems if she ll do a Border run in 90 days? Cause she would like to stay longer in Thailand…

Best of wishes,

Valentin not making false claims about people, they are using the lesser known obscure rules/laws as reason for rejection. Ultimately any 'entry is at the sole discretion of the immigration officer'. They have more power than the police. They don't need to write down their laws where you can see it, and they don't need to tell you.
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Dan ********
Although there maybe no written rule for how long you can stay in a calendar year on the various tourist visas, it will be covered under some generic laws about abusing the system in anyway or using visas not suitable for the purpose of the visit. And they are not ma terryking false claims, they are using their obscure rules/laws as reason to reject who they feel might not be such valued guest. Ultimately 'entry is at the sole discretion of the immigration officer involved'. They don't need a reason, they dont need to tell you a reason.
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@Anthony ********
 no she won't be banned, don't be rediculous, scaremongering the poor girl and guy. Banned for what ? Worst case is she'll be turned away, so its much recommended if she did try, then make a land crossing.
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Glen ********
@Blade *******
 Immigration won’t break the law. They just enforce it.
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Blade ********
@Gl**
 there is no law that says anything of maximum visa exemptions or tourist visa per year or in history. They just enforce it by their mood with fake claims like "not enough money to finance the stay".
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@Blade *******
 there is.
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@Blade *******
 As I understand it, there is no published rule regarding the number of visa exempt entries allowed through airports, however does not imply that the airport entries are unlimited. Most legitimate sources of information will warn us that interpretation is at discretion of the immigration officer. They are charged with preventing “immigration without proper documentation and flagrant abuse of the system. Officers at land borders may deny entry to someone that hasn’t done their two allotted land entries based upon air entries and other factors.
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@Blade *******
 The 20k is, in fact, in law so you made the wrong example there
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@Gra***
 I meant the just write that the rejected you because you have no proof of funds when they reject you because of border runs / visa exemption history even if you have 20k because their is no law that allows them to reject you because of border runs / visa exemption history. TIT
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@Blade *******
 Did the person have the required amount to enter. I have never been asked to prove I have enough money but as an Australian they can refuse me if I have less than AUD$2000 in cash.
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@Gl**
 they just use that as a reason to reject them because of border bounces or too many visa exemptions in the past. They have never asked me as a German for proof of funds too. But I have seen them do it with Indians for example.
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Glen ********
@Blade *******
 Yes, if they think you’re playing the system they can legitimately use that to refuse you. She should take notice of this warning
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Mitchell *******
She must have done a lot of very short border bounces, and spent 8 months in Thailand on mainly exemptions and/or Tourist visas. They ARE cracking down on that type of thing. I just arrived this morning as well from Tokyo, and I was travelling SE Asia last year iand
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of this year, with Thailand as my base, and they checked EVERY stamp I had against stuff in their computer. I DO have an onward flight to Malaysia, and they asked to see that. After over 5 minutes, she stamped me no worry. BUT, the days of people just living essentually living in Thailand on border bounces are disappearing.

You may be able to wing it in Thailand still, but you had better have that exit planned before you arrive, just in case.
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Ralphy *****
Not entitled at all. Thai government not like it
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Luc ************
She can not do a border run after 90 days. She well get a stamp and denied entry for a very long period.
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@Luc ***********
 no, you are wrong
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@Luc ***********
 Border run ( by land) is permitted twice per a calendar year.
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Viola ********
@Tungaa ***
 if you stay for long term in Thailand non stop, calendar rules won’t work for you. You will have an interview with the officer. You should know their requirements ahead. It’s like the exam
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@Tungaa ***
 yes bit not in this case. Did you read all the info?
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@Luc ***********
 You can do a border run after 90 days
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@Rob ******
 did you read everything? 🤷‍♂️🙄
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Doesn’t everything start over on January 1st of each year as far as the max 180 days stay no matter what you used to enter… Visa exemption on arrival then bouncing between?
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@Nick ******
 what does reset on 1st Jan is the land border bounce count. Also, while immigration at the airport gave her a lecture about doing border bounces, that doesn't mean she won't be able to do them, many land borders just go by that rule and don't consider passport history. It's the airport that looks at that. The airport will see it though the next time, which could cause more problems.
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@Ivan ***********
 let’s see what they will say when they will se my passport … I have not left the country for a year( having some special extensions with my embassy letter )
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@Ivan ***********
 no man, not really. I stayed for more than 3 years on special extensions. When I went for a travel in February , the immigration in Poipet did not let me in back to Thailand. So calendar year rules is blshit. It’s all about your history AND if you answer correct to their questions. It’s like an exam
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@Viola *******
 You're talking about the Poi Pet border, which is a special case. They're notorious for indiscriminately rejecting many if not most, including people who are obviously genuine tourists, with recent stays in numerous SE Asian countries. Poi Pet is universally regarded as *the* border to avoid at *any* cost.

Also, the border guards and local Cambodian mafia there appear to have a scam going; there have been numerous accounts of people walking dejectedly away from the checkpoint - and then wouldn't you know it, out of nowhere, two local lads appear. "Oh, you got rejected? No problem! We know people at the checkpoint, for a fee of X, we can get you through!".
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@Jonathan *************************
 and yes, they stopped a few people too, who had just like 3 months visit in Thailand before and entered the second time.

But it’s weird the officer who rejected me told me to get a flight ✈️ to BKk
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@Jonathan *************************
 yeah mate. That’s exactly what happened a year ago. Now I’m upset that I got scammed for 500$ 🫣
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@Viola *******
 that specific border crossing is well known to be difficult. That's Poipet/Aranyaprathet, not land borders in general. I haven't heard reports of the Laos border, or Myanmar when it was open, refusing people.
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@Ivan ***********
 yeah, I just did not know it before 😅🙈

Well, I think, of there are no rejections cases on Laos border( and others), so it also does not really matter the calendar year🤷‍♀️I just guess
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@Vi***
 Laos/Myanmar border posts will reject if you have 2 land entries already (unless you have a visa). They will let you in otherwise. The 2 visa exempt land entries per year is a real published rule and they do enforce that. It's just that that is the only thing they consider, they don't look through your history like the airports do.
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@Nick ******
, no, but wish it was that easy,....far from correct though.
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@Nick ******
 there is no 180 day rule. Every entry to Thailand is at the discretion of the immigration officer and your entire past history is right there for them to see on the computer.
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@Brandon ***********
 So… the no more than 90 days in a 6 month period rule is not real? (Americans) I read that on the embassy website so thought it was legitimate.
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@Nick ******
 it's not a law but it's obviously a rule of thumb used by immigration. That it's on multiple embassy websites as well as the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website, does suggest it's more than just something each individual IO thought up on the spot, it does seem to be quasi-official internal rule of thumb that came from above. People saying it doesn't exist are right insofar as it's not a law though.
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@Ivan ***********
 do you have a link to this on the MFA website? I've seen it on a couple of embassy sites but not the MFA site.
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@Nick ******
 no it's not a real rule. There's no rules about # of entries allowed (by air) or number of days allowed. But the passport control officers aren't going to let people stay indefinitely without a long term visa.
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@Brandon ***********
 you are very right about about it .

It’s up to officers. Thai immigration does not like people stay long on short term visas. Even when it’s legal
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@Nick ******
 Ofc it's not real. A lot of us here have been here 10+ years mostly on tourist visa and visa exempt entry. I'm 37, now married, but for a good 8 years I was doing border bounce and airport bounce.
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@Maxim **********
 where are you based?
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@Jack ***************
 Right now, Udon Thani, but I haved lived in KK, CM, BKK, etc, in the past.
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@Maxim **********
 I've witnessed how some places are fiercer in trying to enforce the arbitrary restrictions and you've had such a good run I was thinking that has to be part of it.
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@Jack ***************
 OP is talking about border run, only 3 or 4 border are "fierce" in Thailand, one of which is Poipet. Most borders are hassle free. Just like by air BKK are fierce, and lately Phuket, but most airport aren't. A lot of people spread misinformation with no nuance and it end up being detrimental to people who are looking for solutions.
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@Maxim **********
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Couple of things.

1. You don't say what passport she holds which is important.

2. I think something is lost in translation, I've never heard of airport immigration issuing an extension. Are you sure they didn't say she can get an extension but it will be at an immigration office. A photo of the stamp she received would help avoid confusion.

3. They will likely have flagged her in the database so she will struggle with further entries. If she wants to stay longer I'd suggest she should use a border run company, they will only take her if they can get her back in and will assess her history before taking her
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@John *********
 I just want to add on the last point. Cause I had a pretty deep experience with Thai immigration system.

They don’t flag anyone in the system unless you get a ban.

A ban you can get if you overstay more than 3 months. If you don’t overstay there are no official orders to put you on the black list and they only can reject your entry for a few official requirements you don’t fit: not enough money(
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thb cash), your purpose of visit does not match with the visa you apply ( tourist), your length of stay is longer than can be considered, you don’t have a ticket out of the country and no proof of accommodation. I think , I listed all of the requirements.

Ah, the important part is when they ask you about a job. NEVER tell them you will work remotely. It’s gonna be counted like you will work in the country.

The immigration has a very strict requirement list , they ask you many questions and you should answer correct ✅ so they can’t reject you 😊
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@Viola *******
 all good points. But I'd say being flagged on the system is not the same as being blacklisted. A blacklist means you're done and dusted, you won't be allowed to enter for any reason, but being flagged is more gentle. If you have the usual requirements you list it does make it much harder to refuse you
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 yeas, I listed it cause I have been rejected once. Now I know how it all works. I just tell you there are no special “flagging”, they just can give you a rejection stamp and you can go to another border. Or only black list. And with a black list there is no chance to get in( all agencies know it), yes, that’s we agreed 😅😅🤗
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@John *********
 I think this is what he meant, they told her at the airport she could extend, not that they sold her the stamp then and there.
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Marty *********
She is another example of the lack of long stay options for people under 50 years old.
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@Marty ********
 Elite option is there.
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@Marty ********
 That is the Thai government choice. Does every country allow anyone to do whatever they want?
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There are many Visa options. Education Visa is probably the cheapest route. Thailand got much stricter about border runs. I understand her love of Thailand, but all of us have to always realize, we are not Thai citizens. Yes expats contribute greatly to the economy, but there are too many smelly European backpackers, and Russians with attitude problems as they run their coward asses to hide from war.
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@Matt *********
 … and digital creators
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@Glen *******
 Cyclists? Or is it just us Brits and Aussies hate them.
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@Matt *********
 ED visa has changed because of cheaters.

Not wanting to murder for your country is honorable, not cowardly.
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@Bonnie ********
 I don't need your war lectures. Retired US Army here.
10 months ago
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@Matt *********
 BFD. Yet you don’t live in that country. Interesting. You’re angry that people don’t want to murder others????
10 months ago
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@Bonnie ********
 not what I said.
10 months ago
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@Matt *********
 Glorifying war is glorifying murder. Period.
10 months ago
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@Bonnie ********
 nobody glorified war. And being a soldier fighting a war does not make you a murderer.
10 months ago
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@Matt *********
 Respect for you bravery/commitment Matt. Some wars are justifiable. There are even institutions and laws from quite some time ago. Geneva Convention, World Court etc to tell you what justifies killing. Patriotism isn't in it.
10 months ago
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@Bonnie ********
 Don't know much about visas other than what's necessary in my particular case and my better half is smarter than me. The second sentence though resonates perfectly with my simple way of thinking. I would be thinking long and hard about being told to kill people. We could try to imagine scenarios but they would be extreme.
10 months ago
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@John ********
 Killing isn't a great thing. I'm not saying that. I'm just pointing out people run from the war, yet get to a new place and start acting like assholes to the locals. Well loudmouth if you're so tough why you running like a bitch? But I'm a guy who joined the Army the day after the hadjis attacked us on 9-11, multiple deployments, and even buried my son who followed my footsteps. So my views may be a bit jaded to some.
10 months ago
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@Matt *********
 Sorry about your son. The other side will having grieving fathers too. Horrible mate.
10 months ago
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@John ********
 yeah War is Hell on earth. But human kind will have extinguished ourselves before we realize there has to be a better way to resolve conflict.
10 months ago
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@Matt *********
 Yank by any chance? Not many other nationalities talk shite like that.
10 months ago
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@John ********
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10 months ago
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Maybe history of visits and her country has made her get flagged
10 months ago
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Thomas *******
Trying to hard to stay but not pay?
10 months ago
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Nigel *********
That's so unfair 😐
10 months ago
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@Nigel ********
 if flagged ,you stay flagged.

Is she farang ?
10 months ago
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Have to agree with everyone else unfortunately. For whatever reason she is flagged on the system here and that’s an end to it.

The thing is as people are saying she was trying to play clever and get around the system and let’s be honest that’s not right, regardless of how many people do it doesn’t make it right so you’re kind of between a rock and a hard place I’m afraid
10 months ago
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Alex *******
Avoid doing visa run by air. Use an agemcy next time and be prrpapred to pay extra.
10 months ago
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@Alex ******
 Air visa runs remain the best option.
10 months ago
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@Alex ******
 no no no! This advice does not work since 2023!

I did follow this thinking and instead of a flight I came back from my trip to Calbodia with a land border. Got rejected at Poipet border. They explained me that the rules changed, and land borders are more strict than airports immigration. You can do 2 land border run a year only now and still can be rejected to enter if you have multiple visits
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@Viola *******
Let’s not sensationalize things.. it’s been only 2 land border per year for years and years. And it’s always been written policy that people can be rejected for having too many visa, but it’s always been arbitrary and (as with many things) used as needed.
10 months ago
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@Viola *******
 you are obviously new in Thailand. Poipet is the only border to avoid at all costs., anyone who has beem here longer knows that. Written in every visa run fb group
10 months ago
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@Alex ******
 but even in Poipet they told me I must go fly and it’s all gonna be fine . They said : if you fly you have money then..🤷‍♀️immigration logic 😂
10 months ago
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@Alex ******
 I stay in Thailand for more than 4 years but I did not need to do a border run ( long story), so I just did not know about it , yes.
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She has been flagged for whatever reason. They may suspect her of working if she is be very very careful.
10 months ago
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Wayne *****
If she is abusing the system she has to live by the decisions she makes, can't complain if she gets caught out.
10 months ago
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@Wayne ****
 which law has she broken? The immigration officer can decide after the own mood law? 🤡
10 months ago
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Henrik *****
There are rules to be followed, and she have had her luck and streched the elastic to long.

Most countrys won’t regard stays longer than 3 months as tourist visits.

In fact the civil servants of Thailand should be respected, since they have the power to decide at their own, and if it ends up in a conflict, they will not “loose face” and change the decision when it has been made.
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 Yes, and that what you and other people don't get. Immigration have the final say. DON'T PUSH YOUR LUCK.
10 months ago
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@Wa***
 I stay minimum 1 months outside of Thailand every time. But that's ridiculous third world shit when there is no clear law on border bounce / visa run and the immigration officers can devise how they want. Only in Thailand. 🤡
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 There are things to complain about Thailand, but this not one of them. It is those who abuse the system by trying to outsmart it that causes problems for everyone else.
10 months ago
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@Neal ******
 just curious how does it affect you some visa runners issues ? 😏
10 months ago
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@Viola *******
 Fortunately it doesn’t affect me directly because I have a non -o and am about to do extension #4. But I get frustrated at those who deliberately test the system and plead ignorance or complain about the immigration laws here. Many foreigners apparently feel as though they should be entitled to stay in Thailand unconditionally.
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@Blade *******
 well don't come to a place that has third world shit buddy, your choice.
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@Blade *******
 Then why come back if you hate it so much? Sounds like you’re angry that the world doesn’t do what you want.

Does your home county allow others to do what you’re doing?
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@Bon***
 the law says there is no maximum stay per your or whatever on visa exemption. So why are the immigration officers breaking the law by rejecting people with false claims like not enough money because of too much visa exemptions / border bounces? 🤡
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@Blade *******
 stay in your country then Bozo.
10 months ago
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@Fr***
 no.. 😘
10 months ago
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@Bonnie ********
 Just a bunch of complainers who don't get it Bonnie. You can't install common sense into some clowns.
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@Wayne ****
 can’t believe nobody understands this. Selfish fucking people expect to be catered to. No country allows it.
10 months ago
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@Neil *****
 One does does nobody wants to go there
10 months ago
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@Neil *****
 language Timothy 🤦🏻‍♂️
10 months ago
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@James *******
 I will speak however I damn well please.
10 months ago
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@Neil *****
 …. It’s a joke Neil …. It obviously passed you by 🤷. I forget which famous comedian made a living out of the phrase …
10 months ago
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@Ja***
 Sorry!
10 months ago
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@Neil *****
 lol. 😂
10 months ago
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@Neil *****
 wow go easy on your meds bro !
10 months ago
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@Kevin ******
 Everyone suffers from abusing the system. Ed visas are a prime example.
10 months ago
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Neil ******
@Kevin ******
 I’m on meds because selfish assholes like to constantly violate and abuse immigration laws and then get upset when they are denied entry?
10 months ago
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@Neil *****
 he didn’t seem upset in his post.
10 months ago
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@Neil *****
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10 months ago
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@Neil *****
 exactly 💯
10 months ago
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She has been identified as having a history of staying in Thailand using Tourism entry stamps and not getting a long-term Visa. Looks like she will be denied any future entry without a long-term Visa if this has been entered into the system.
10 months ago
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@Graham *****
 hopefully.
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@Graham *****
 and quite right too.
10 months ago
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@Graham *****
 agree with that. Clamping down on abuse of the system for sure. Should just get the right visa for your stay
10 months ago
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Looking like she abused the system and maybe had an overstay? You are not very clear about the facts.
10 months ago
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Rene ******
What stamp(s) did she get? 1 for 90 days or 2 for 60+30?
10 months ago
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Duncan *******
If she enteted on a single entry tourist visa, how did she get it without a ticket out of Thailand?
10 months ago
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@Duncan ******
 some airlines don't require one
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@Duncan ******
 exactly that. Applications for tourist visa require copies sent of exit flights .. feel there’s only part of a story with this post.
10 months ago
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@Donna ***********
 England
10 months ago
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@Rob ******
 perhaps just one that slipped through 🤷‍♀️ I apply from the UK too and always have been asked to submit exit flight info too.
10 months ago
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@Donna ***********
 it asked, but i never sent it because i dont have one, i just sent my flight there & it was accepted
10 months ago
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@Rob ******
 🤷‍♀️ and did you not get asked by airline to show exit flight? Or immigration? Do you travel to Thailand regularly?
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@Donna ***********
 Nobody ever asked, been here since november, no my second time in 4 years
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@Rob ******
 it seems a hit or miss then. I lived there for 2 years and travelled around SE Asia for 6 months and was always asked for exit flights in every country by the airlines. You must have an honest face 😊
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@Donna ***********
 Mine didn’t
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 which country did you apply from ?
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@Duncan ******
 Passengers with a valid visa don't have to show a return ticket at checkin.
10 months ago
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@Duncan ******
 often they don't ask for proof of onward travel ...although some airlines will ask at check-in . Doesn't appear to be any rules regarding this ....but can be very frustrating after waiting at check in to be told u need onward flight
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@Duncan ******
 I have been in Thailand since November, when i applied for my Evisa (UK) i only showed my flight to Thailand & it was accepted. i had no onward travel
10 months ago
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Henrik *****
But when obviously tring to exploit the visasystem, the onwardticket will be a good excuse to reject the tourist.
10 months ago
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@Rob ******
 Interesting - I had thought they needed a ticket out, but it has been years since I applied for one.
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@Duncan ******
 it's normally the airlines that ask for the return ticket but I've never been asked in 5 years
10 months ago
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@Andy *******
 My GF was asked at BBK. So it does happen
10 months ago
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If she is not allowed to do a border bounce can she do a visa run ?
10 months ago
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@Rob ******
 what's the difference?
10 months ago
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@Lien *****
 you need to look on your country’s entry requirements for thailand
10 months ago
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@Lien *****
 visa will give you 60 days that you can extend in thailand for 30 days, border bounce will give you 30 days that you can extend by 30
10 months ago
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@Rob ******
 so after 90 days I have to leave and then apply for visa again to get 90 days?
10 months ago
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@Lien *****
 you would apply for a tourist visa at the thai embassy in a border country that would give you 60 days, you could extend that in thailand by 30 days
10 months ago
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@Rob ******
 oh ok, so basically repeat the process. How often can you repeat the process?
10 months ago
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@Lien *****
 Border bounce is where you exit a country & re-enter to get stamped in, visa run is where you go to another country & apply for a visa
10 months ago
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@Rob ******
 oh ok, thanks for explaining it to me. What's the most common method?
10 months ago
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@Lien *****
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10 months ago
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@Rob ******
 oh ok, but which one gives me more days to stay in Thailand? I'm super new to this. Wanna get info before making decisions. Definitely will visit first but I think it's good to know what my options are between vietnam and thailand
10 months ago
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Advise to get a proper long term visa instead of just doing border run.
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 smart visa doesn’t have an age requirement.
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 ED visa still exists.
10 months ago
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@K**
 okay that's the most reasonable one. But still you need to do and pay for the education. 😅
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 Many of the schools don't care whether you attend or not. However, there is always the risk that the immigration officer will test your Thai. They've tightened things up from when I first arrived. So, if you go the ED route and you really want to stay, you're going to need to attend classes. If you can't afford the classes, you're out of options.
10 months ago
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@K**
 I personally like to travel around. All the time in Thailand would be boring for me. But I would like when the by the new government proposed 90 day visa exemption finally comes. 😅
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 Maybe they'll propose a cannabis visa.
10 months ago
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@K**
 looks like the opposite. 😬

Well then I have even less need for a long term visa. 😅

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@Blade *******
 This simply means you'll need to pay 10,000 baht every 3 months for a medical "license." It's not a done deal yet, and it's a very stupid move. We'll still be able to get cannabis with additional hoops, and costs. "Hello, I have back pain. Trust me. Here is my 10,000 baht medical fee."
10 months ago
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@K**
 oh the usual falang rip off. 🤮😅
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 there’s plenty. People just don’t seem to understand that illegal immigration is a thing in Thailand. Abusing the process with these runs is cutting out of the governments economy and they really don’t like it. Play ball and spend 1000 dollars on a visa service for a year.
10 months ago
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@Don ****
 what type of visa will it provide? I'm looking for options
10 months ago
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@Lien *****
 Ed visa.
10 months ago
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@Lien *****
 they’ll get you an education visa but when you use a service you are helping them out in turn you don’t have to actually learn Thai or go to in person classes they’ll fix it all up for you.
10 months ago
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@Don ****
 I would like to learn Thai if I stay there long term. Could you message me more details please. Thanks
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 if you got the money you are able to stay long term without education visa. Just set up a company and get a non b visa with work permit.
10 months ago
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@Jay ****
 if the company is not trading genuinely, then that too, is abuse of the system. And all the old boys that use an agent to get past the retirement visa requirememt for 800,000 baht bank deposit, is also abuse of the system.
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@Jay ****
 but do you mean just a company on paper that doesn't exist? What would that cost? 😅
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I think this is the third post recently about demands for cash being made at immigration at BKK (Suvarnaphumi Airport). I thought it would be the last place that IO's would be blatently asking for cash bungs, but it appears some officers are. Maybe rogue IO's trying to make a quick buck under the noses of their superiors, or maybe with their blessing. And I think if you pay as requested, and you're not a total dick, they haven't got much reason to put a marker on your file, and they wont want to draw attention to your file either, as they certainly won't be recording the transaction of 2000 baht cash payment. So maybe you were just unlucky, got the bastard IO, and the next IO will be more forgiving. I would recommend strictly a land crossing. Infact I'd speak to a visa run agent, and they want to pre-screen you anyway, they'll send copy of passport ahead to be ok'd. This will tell you if you are able to visarun/border bounce. You can use a visarun agent also to arrange to do more than the yearly 2 land crossings limit, you just have to ask and get a confirmed yes. And many can accommodate a little overstay too. But a few don't.
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@Blade *******
 speak to an agent, all can fix it for you. I'm sure there are different ways to structure it, but I was told a start up of 80k, and 70k a year, so 150k year 1, then 70k a year after that. Others may say differently.
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 Everything is about cost. If you can't afford the cost I would suggest stay in your own country.
10 months ago
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@Jay ****
 If you dislike Thailand so much, why are you here?
10 months ago
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Jay *****
@Jonathan *************************
 I think you need to brush up on your english. Which part mention that I don't like Thailand?
10 months ago
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@Jay ****
 Sorry, that was supposed to be tagged at Blade Muller.

All threads I've seen seem to be of him complaining about Thailand, calling them "third-world" etc.
10 months ago
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@Jona****
 well I don't dislike Thailand. I just dislike that some Thai Officials or Immigration Officials think they have the perfect country and all the rich people want to come to their third world country to breath in some burning plastic trash fumes or burning season pm2.5. or get killed on the roads so they can make ridiculous visa requirements. I wanna have their drugs. They really live in an DMT dream world. 😂😅
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กองปราบปรามยาเสพติด ป.ป.ส
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10 months ago
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@J**
 what does it cost? Hmm so I should stay in Germany when I can't afford to stay in a third world country? That's beyond ridiculous. 🤡😅
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 Seems you totally can't afford a proper visa except doing border run in and out.
10 months ago
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@J**
 So remember: Thailand is a poor third world country for poor backpackers and sexpats. Rich quality tourists prefer developed quality destinations.
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 Go home, pal.
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 I hope you are not in Thailand now.
10 months ago
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@Jay ****
 why? 😂
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 If you are, you are just slapping your own face.
10 months ago
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@Jay ****
 you absolute melon
10 months ago
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@J**
 what is a proper visa? To set up a fake company is more like a shady visa. 😅
10 months ago
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@Jay ****
 when I got the money would I want to live in the third world then? 😅
10 months ago
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@Blade *******
 weird comment, Aussie and nz are first world and pretty darn terrible to live in 😂😂😂
10 months ago
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Lo ******
@Jesse ****
 Oz is a wannabe 1st world, please 😊
10 months ago
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Daniel *****
@Blade *******
 Many do. Why are you there at all if you consider it the third world. Are you there to help?
10 months ago
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Jay *****
@Blade *******
 Totally a moron. If you are poor, then Thailand is not a place suitable for you. It's a place where the rich enjoy.
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@J**
 im not poor. But Thailand is a poor third world country where backpackers and sexpats enjoy. Rich "quality tourists" go to Singapore, Hawaii, Dubai, Italy, France, Monaco and so on. Rich people don't want to get third world cancer from the burning season and plastic trash burning. That's only in Prayuths wet dreams. 😂
10 months ago
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Shi ********
@Blade *******
 we also don’t need cheap tourist like you , Cheap German Surname 🥺🤢 go go another country
10 months ago
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Lo ******
@Blade *******
 just wondering 🤔warum bist überhaupt noch hier ? 🤔🤔
10 months ago
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Daniel *****
@Blade *******
 You sound like a pompous imbecile, Thailand is clearly not for you, I suggest you reassess your priorities.
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 pair of poo pushers too
10 months ago
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Daniel *****
@Rodney *********
 Baseless personal attacks, classy!
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@Daniel ****
 clean your n0b
10 months ago
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@Rodney *********
 You might try for an Ed Visa in politeness and common decency, you are certainly common.
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Can a Brazilian national and an expat do border runs from Thailand to Myanmar and extend their visas in Mae Sai?
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7 years ago
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