My application has move to Pending Approval. Has anyone everyone being denied at this stage?
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A user inquired about the likelihood of their visa application being denied at the Pending Approval stage. The discussion quickly veered off course, with various comments addressing several points related to ASEAN countries and their immigration privileges. Several users shared their diverse perspectives and experiences, but the original question about visa denial rates was not adequately addressed.
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Essentially they are trying to do a bit of a mini EU with countries in the nearby area. I assume that there are reciprocal agreements for Thai visitors.
I know this was inevitable, but the sheer number of moronic answers and judgement coming from most of the desperate brokepackers who have zero idea how many countries are in ASEAN, really is incredibly astonishing. 👍
Thankfully there are some legitimate smart answers to give me some insight and much appreciated.
PS. To the very specific judgemental son & daughter of eipstein, the correct answer is NO, ASEAN does not only have 4 countries as members as of 2026. If you need to make an overconfident arguement about it, at least get your fact checked. and also NO, ASEAN is not anywhere near Iraq, just in case your drunken brian is presenting yet another "fact"🙏
ASEAN. Intra-ASEAN Travel RulesVisa Exemption: Under the ASEAN Framework Agreement, member countries generally allow citizens holding valid national passports to enter without a visa for short visits of 14 to 30 days. Specific Durations: Exact visa-free lengths vary by pairing (e.g., Singapore and Malaysia typically grant 30 days to fellow ASEAN nationals, while others like Brunei or Myanmar may follow a 14-day baseline unless specific bilateral agreements extend Travelers must carry a passport valid for at least 6 months beyond their arrival date.Purpose of Stay: Visa exemptions strictly apply to social visits and tourism; employment, study, or long-term residence require specialized visas or passes.
Because Thailand is a much more popular place to live for long stay l, thus less people in the other countries are trying to dysy long term euthpit a long term visa or permit. Few foreigners want to live in Myanmar. Foreigners aren't desperate to remain in Indonesia or Malaysia.
That's because Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia and Singapore had prior specific bilateral agreements with Thailand.
One of the reasons Thailand limit border runs with Laos, Myanmars, Cambodia and Vietnam is because lots of citizens from those countries would abuse their visa-exempt for illegal employment in Thailand.
Chris Crookson ASEAN are 11 countries but only Singapore, Malaysia and Brunei have that privilege that their border crossings are not considered as border runs, Hardly anyone from those 3 countries is trying to live in Thai. If they do, they get a proper visa. Weekends or shorts stays, cashed up people.
No tatooed shirtless hooligans, grrat spenders, not trouble makers.
Jim Davis i live in the Golden Triangle and know Myanmar and Lao citizens who cross jnto Thailand daily. They are both Asean members. And you also forgot to mention Indonesia
As an American who worked in Singapore during the weekdays and basically commuted to my Phuket Thailand home on weekends for many years, I can say I was never questioned. Never once. Although my passport needed to be replaced when I ran out of pages for stamps. Ha. But this was years ago. Maybe different now.
Laotians certainly aren't restricted. Burmese can only enter visa free by air. Cambodians are currently restricted to air entry; entry via Laos is however at the discretion of the immigration officer due to lingering tensions.
"even Laos, Myanmar, & Cambodia are treated with twice of border-run" > who said that? I think you refer to a source in English which just omits Laos, Myanmar, & Cambodia (and also Vietnam)! I think you should refer to sources in Thai.
Due to many years of agreements and cooperation between countries. It's not more complicated than that and your country of origin most likely makes a difference between countries too.
They are ASEAN countries and Thailand likely has a reciprocal agreement with them, whereby Thai citizens get the same privileges when visiting these countries.
Unlimited? Not true. Was put in detention after denied entry into Thailand. Asked to book the next flight home. Even having a local spouse for 20 years didnt help if you dont have the right visa.
Border runs for the purpose of resetting your Visa exemption are the days of the past! Get yourself a proper visa. I don’t blame Thailand immigration authorities.
ASEAN and these 4 countries contribute a lot to Thailand's tourism economy, so they want to encourage more of their citizens to choose Thailand over other holiday destinations
If your trying to live in Thailand forget exempt and BUY the visa that fits your needs quit crying about what other countries the free pass days and with extensions and border runs are pretty much over
Neil Taylor So what about ASEAN? Im Malaysian and I still dont know why only 4 out of 10 other ASEAN countries are permitted to unlimited crossings per year.
You're not entirely right about Myanmar and Laos. The two land border entry limit does not apply to border pass holders and there are plenty of those from both countries.
because they are part of ASEAN and that's the agreement they have in place and those countries reciprocate in a similar manner. So a Thai national can almost freely travel to any ASEAN nation.
For a Thai national to travel to America, US or Europe they need pre screening prior to travel. Even say they want to go to the UK for a week, they have to get a six month visit visa and there is a long list of criteria they have to meet to be able to travel.
Visa free or visa on arrival travel typically makes those destinations desirable for those nations who receive it hence you see a lot of Thais choosing ASEAN or Japan as a holidaying destination if they do go. A lot don't and choose just to stay home.
Immigration Bureau sets no fixed limits to any kind of border run. They did in the past but not any longer. A number of Embassies list fixed limits to land border runs, but the Embassies are not governed by the Immigration Bureau, who decides the entries to the country. If you have any other information from the Immigration Bureau ONLY, then please post the link here.
As an American living in Thailand, I think it's because a lot of Westerners come to Thailand and think they're in their home country, I have seen many forangs who are rude, complain because Thais don't speak English, some feel as if the country is beneath them. I admit it takes some getting use to, I also had to adjust, but some don't want to adjust. I drive here and I will never understand how they have rules for driving but No one follows them, however I am not at home so I have to be extremely watchful anticipating what the other driver will do. It can be very frustrating when conducting business as well, because many Thais don't understand lateral thinking, they're very black and white. However at the end of the day I am a guest here so I can be as frustrated as I want , but I must abide by the rules set before me, like it or not!🤷🏾♀️
Rich De interesting take, I don't live in a ghetto at all, most of these people, I have encountered in places where the Thai people provide services or at the Condos, where I lived, I have also seen bad behavior at my doctor's office and my dentist office. So definitely not in any Ghetto, as you boldly say!😂🤦🏿♀️
Bilateral agreements on government level, is my guess. And it's only the number of land border entries that is limited. You can still fly in and out within reason, without any formal limitation.
All 4 nations have strong economic and political ties with Thailand as well as mutual respect. And 2 of them share the peninsula. Every country has long standing relations with other nations and gives preferential treatment. I think that is all this is.
how would anybody on this group know the logic behind a law passed by the Thai government. Why not ask an immigration officer, they probably won't even know
Like I said 'they probably won't even know' but they know a lot more than most of the people on this group. You just re-inforced what I was saying, thank you.
Would have to imagine that proximity, international agreements with ASEAN neighbors, and In particular with Malaysia and Cambodia, where there is a lot of cross-border trade and communities sit on both sides of the border, has a lot to do with it and that a lot of those border crossings aren't exactly the same as western tourists, "digital nomads", etc.