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What are the chances of getting rejected for the DTV and losing the upfront payment?

Paulie ********
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So has anyone been rejected for the DTV and lost there 10k thb paid upfront?
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The DTV (Digital Nomad Visa) application process raises concerns about potential rejections and the non-refundable application fee, which can be up to 10,000 THB. Experiences shared by users indicate that while some individuals have faced rejection, many noted that embassy officials usually pre-check documents before payment to minimize the chance of denial. Insights reveal that applying from outside Thailand is preferred, as applying from within the country without solid proof of residence is a common reason for rejection. Overall, while the likelihood of receiving refunds after a rejection seems low, some embassies maintain strict document checks which can mitigate risks before payment.
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Paulie ********
Paulie ********
OP
What diffrence if you apply in Thailand because you have to leave to activate it so is that illegal to apply in thialand 🤔
Greta *****
Greta *****
DTV - Definitely Trial Visa
Erica ********
Erica ********
Bad visa history or fraudulent documents?
Stephen *****
Stephen *****
Survival bias. Rejection may be more often than you think. People get rejected probably wont post their experiences here since its probably their own fault.
Chris *********
Chris *********
I got my own from one my business and one for my friend Working remote my other business.

All very smooth. From the uk
Roberto *******
Roberto *******
What criteria aren’t you meeting when rejected? I mean, it’s pretty straight forward.
Dan *********
Dan *********
At the consulate in LA they are charging more than 10k and they make you pay first so it’s a concern haha 😂
Valerio **********
Valerio **********
@D**
pretty sure all consulates make you pay upfront?
Valerio **********
Valerio **********
not sure, but i’m applying and then as soon as i get it, i’m going in.

already live here but dtv looks good
Paulie ********
Paulie ********
OP
@Valerio *********
what about if applying for it now but for a later date and at such time in thialand 🤔
Jim ********
Jim ********
@Dan ********
Yes. It is 400 USD at the LA Embassy.
THAI ******************************
THAI ******************************
Many people reach out to us daily with various reasons for their visa rejections.

One of the most common issues is applying from within Thailand without providing solid proof of residence outside the country. Another frequent problem is the failure to present a consistent bank account history of 3-6 months, though the strictness of these requirements can vary by embassy. If you have a older account then use it!

While we offer comprehensive support with DTV applications, please note that we cannot reverse a rejection. If your application is denied, the process must start over, and the application fee paid to the embassy is non-refundable.

For those concerned about their application, we offer VIP services both for applications submitted from within Thailand and those from abroad.
Paulie ********
Paulie ********
OP
@THAI *****************************
so you can actually apply from inside Thailand along as you have evidence of funds and a home outside thiland?
THAI ******************************
THAI ******************************
@Paulie *******
We take them on a same-day trip to the nearest consulate for a rush approval / review, so you are applying outside of Thailand.

For our services it is case by case but we choose the least inconvenient option for the applicant.

If you lie on your application you risk possibly denial, loss of application fee, or issues with your first entry.
Andrew *****
Andrew *****
@THAI *****************************
Added the line group but the person said only for e-visa which contradict with the service of same day trip to the nearest consulate.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Paulie *******
Only if you lie on the application, thereby making it a fraudulent application.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Paulie *******
You cannot apply from inside Thailand because the application specifically asks where you are currently located. If you answer Thailand it won't even let you continue with the application. The only way to do that application is to lie about your application, which would make your application fraudulent.
Paulie ********
Paulie ********
OP
@Brandon ***********
lie about what?
Adrià ********
Adrià ********
@THAI *****************************
within Thailand you mean that are already in Thailand? They have to go to a neighboring country to apply at consulate / embassy right? Thanks
THAI ******************************
THAI ******************************
@Adrià *******
We take them on a sameday trip to the nearest consulate for a rush approval / review.

It will be case by case but we choose the least inconvenient option for the applicant.

You can message our team here to see what we can do, and what our fees are (we offer various services for DTV):

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Bob **********
Bob **********
It’s not 10,000 baht at every embassy they are all different
THAI ******************************
THAI ******************************
@Bob *********
We maintain a detailed price list here:

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If you know any that are missing please let us know.
Koin ******
Koin ******
You? 😒
Adrià ********
Adrià ********
Yes, I saw people loosing the 10k (Vientiane)
Andrew *****
Andrew *****
@Adrià *******
oh, which embassy
Adrià ********
Adrià ********
@Andrew ****
Vientiane, Laos. An officer pre-check all the documents, you pay and give you a paper to collect the passport in two days. Then, maybe you're declined because they encountered something and they didn't return the money. I saw two people last friday that happened this.
Andrew *****
Andrew *****
@Adrià *******
oh that sucks. I thought they would pre-check everything and decline on the spot if documents were wrong. That's sad for them who have paid for it
Bhola **********
Bhola **********
What is a DTV...? Mommy!
Batuh ****
Batuh ****
So far, we’ve only seen application results from countries like USA, UK, EU, and AU. Bureaucracy in those countries works well, so it’s unlikely that applicants who meet the criteria would get rejected because their countries have a strong reputation. What we really need to know is how applications from third-world countries are faring. I haven't seen anyone shared the result from a small or poor country yet.
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Batuh ***
Seen plenty of applications from neighbouring Countries
John *******
John *******
@Batuh ***
I got mine in Cambodia
Rajib *******
Rajib *******
@John ******
I DM you for some info.
Shayne **********
Shayne **********
@Batuh ***
Israel
Sergey *************
Sergey *************
@Batuh ***
my passport is Russian, i got that visa easy in Vietnam.
Batuh ****
Batuh ****
@Sergey ************
All provided docs must be in English?
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Batuh ***
I've seen reports of people from developing countries who have got it.
Sergey *************
Sergey *************
If they got your documents and didn’t ask for more - that means 90% u will get your visa.
Bob **********
Bob **********
A guy just posted that he applied from within Thailand and was rejected but that’s his fault because you can’t apply from here
Paulie ********
Paulie ********
OP
@Bob *********
how did they know he was in Thailand?
Bob **********
Bob **********
@Paulie *******
IP address it is 2024
Valerio **********
Valerio **********
@Hen***
correct. this is how they'd be able to tell.
Valerio **********
Valerio **********
bro acting like Thai consulate knows how to use and track VPNs. fuck outta here
Henrik *****
Henrik *****
But will not change you have an arrival stamp, but no departure stamp in you immigration history.
Bob **********
Bob **********
@Damo **********
not with a Thai consulate just like US banks they know if it’s a VPN and it’s very clear that you cannot apply inside of Thailand
Damo ***********
Damo ***********
@Bob *********
a VPN should do the trick?
Naomi *********
Naomi *********
The embassy in Hanoi checked all the documents very thoroughly at the counter while submitting. I don’t think she would have let me submit and pay if I hadn’t met the criteria the embassy has set, so I think once you get past the front counter and manage to pay it’s very unlikely you’ll be rejected. If you’re missing things or they want additional documents they send you away pre-payment and ask you to submit when you’ve got everything in order.
John *******
John *******
@Naomi ********
- Embassy in Phnom Penh only quickly looked at the documents when submitting. Luckily, I had no issues. Another person returned to pick up and that is when they asked for additional documents, so kind of slows/delays the process
Naomi *********
Naomi *********
@John ******
I guess the experience in each embassy is different :) I can only speak for my experience in Hanoi which was very professional, friendly and straightforward!
John *******
John *******
@Naomi ********
My significant other is Thai and was with me. They were shocked as well by how unwilling to speak everyone was.
Rajib *******
Rajib *******
@John ******
may I ask PP Embassy took how long to process your DTV?
John *******
John *******
@Rajib ******
6 buisness days
Tim *****************
Tim *****************
@Naomi ********
can you apply at any embassy or does it have to be your home country Thai embassy?
Garrett ***********
Garrett ***********
@Tim ****************
Depends on the embassy, but as a rule you need to be in the country of the embassy you're using.
Richard *****
Richard *****
@Tim ****************
apparently any Embassy of a country that you are currently staying in. I’ve read that Hotels are acceptable for this.
Damo ***********
Damo ***********
@Tim ****************
who the 'F' are you? simpleton.. pissant.. nothing.. hahaha... see you loser.
Tim *****************
Tim *****************
@Damo **********
sounds like you should get a life
Damo ***********
Damo ***********
@Tim ****************
sounds like you should be doing some of your own research 🤷🏽‍♂️
Tim *****************
Tim *****************
@Bob *********
really? I can do that because it beats paying 40k baht for a return flight to SA
Ivan ***********
Ivan ***********
But good news, if they hand out the DTV per E-Visa also in foreign countries. 👌🏼
Bob **********
Bob **********
@Richard ****
many people have gotten there’s in Laos and Vietnam
Zwe **********
Zwe **********
Yes
Paulie ********
Paulie ********
OP
@Zwe *********
what reason
Zwe **********
Zwe **********
@Paulie *******
Bank Statement (Vientiane)
Steve *******
Steve *******
@John *******
That's what I thought, hence the question
John ********
John ********
@Damo **********
Could be something in that. Maybe they would be suspicious if you are a National of the likes of Nigeria, but not if your from a Western country.
Damo ***********
Damo ***********
@John *******
sounds like it depends on the discretion of the individual embassy where you are applying for the DTV.
John ********
John ********
@Steve ******
I heard for the DTV there is no seasoning period.
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Paulie *******
Does it need to be in for 6 months?
Paulie ********
Paulie ********
OP
@Zwe *********
oh dear not enough money or not in for 6 month period
Mar *****
Mar *****
@Zwe *********
but they didn't ask you to provide another one that's Suitable ...?

🤔🫡
Lena *******
Lena *******
Maybe...they asked for a document, we sent it and they must've gone off for a holiday this past week. Nothing.
Peter *********
Peter *********
No
Adrià ********
Adrià ********
@Peter ********
Many people in some embassies and consulate are loosing their 10k because the agent pre-check the documents, get the 10k but then in a few days they deny it.
Peter *********
Peter *********
@Adrià *******
do it correct then lol 😆
Damo ***********
Damo ***********
@Adrià *******
yep! The DTV is a rort if a person can get it by enroling in a Thai cooking course or attend a music festival 🙊🙉🙈
Adrià ********
Adrià ********
@Damo **********
many people that not qualify trying to get the visa rn. Look at the people working with Ed Visa, Volunteer visa etc.. Always happened.
Damo ***********
Damo ***********
@Adrià *******
a little bit of self-research should give the person a fairly good indication if they qualify for the DTV or not 🤦🏼‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️
Adrià ********
Adrià ********
@Peter ********
100% agree with you, but I think that if some people doubt if they can loose their 10k it's because maybe they don't have all the requirements for the visa. So yes, if you don't meet the requirements, you can easily loose 10k
Kim *********
Kim *********
@Peter ********
and how do you know that? You don't - so what an answer
Peter *********
Peter *********
@Kim ********
have many friends immigration
Kim *********
Kim *********
@Peter ********
oh sorry 😔
Bob **********
Bob **********

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