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Can you extend a visa in Thailand without a TM30?

Terrence ***********
asked Dec 30, 2024
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My landlord failed to file a TM30 when I moved into his condo. He’s scrambling now to file it 30 days after the fact. In the past I’ve never needed the TM30 while extending my visa but now I hear rumblings that it’s impossible to extend without one. Is that true? I’ll be going to the IT square facility.
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The discussion revolves around the necessity of the TM30 form for visa extensions in Thailand, particularly in the context of a landlord's delay in filing this form after a tenant's move. Many respondents confirm that the TM30 is typically required for a 30-day visa extension, especially at the IT Square facility. Suggestions include having the landlord file the TM30 online or temporarily checking into a hotel which can file a TM30 for the guest. It's also mentioned that failing to file the TM30 on time could result in fines for the landlord.
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Ally ************
Ally ************
Simple solution mentioned many times here already.. but I'd check in to a hotel for 2 nights just before you intend to apply for your extension.. they will file a TM30 for you and usually do so on the day you check in.. ask them for a printed copy of the TM30 registration they do online.. then go to immigration the next day with it and apply for the extension.. then move to accommodation of choice for the rest of your stay.. provided you leave the country without any further interactions with immigration.. then a subsequent failure to do a TM30, (ie. by your next landlord) won't matter at all!
마리오 ***
마리오 ***
The Chonburi immigration office in Pattaya has also cracked down on this. They were going to fine my gf something like 2500 baht for not having a current TM.30 when she went in to do her 30 day extension recently. She elected to do a border run instead to restart her clock.
Peter ******
Peter ******
Just check in to a cheap hotel for a couple of nights off your Landlord is messing about!
Terrence ***********
Terrence ***********
OP
@Peter *****
and you can ask the hotel for the TM30 receipt?
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
@Terrence **********
, just be careful, not all cheap hotels or guest houses do TM30 correctly.
Peter ******
Peter ******
@Terrence **********
Yes, they do it automatically!
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
Tod *********
Tod *********
we're going around in circles with this. 🙁 Doesn't matter whose responsibility it is, the person who doesn't have the TM30 is the one that suffers (and usually gets fined when it's not filed on time)

All you can do is go try for the extension using the address where you stay and see what they say at IT Square.

IF you don't have a crazy entry/stay history (as in you have been living here on free entry stamps) they MIGHT not ask for the TM30

Otherwise you're going to have to get one filed at the address where you live

OR

do as some people have had to do, check into a hotel for one day to get the TM30 and use that address when you apply for the extension
Terrence ***********
Terrence ***********
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@Tod ********
that’s a great idea!
De *******
De *******
To clarify, what is the time frame the landlord has to file the TM30 within? I have read within 24 hours after arrival, but my real estate agent who handles it for my foreign landlord is telling me 7 days…
Terrence ***********
Terrence ***********
OP
In that case I don’t know what my landlord will do. He’ll probably be fined.
De *******
De *******
@Terrence **********
I agree with you in spirit but I know I will be fined instead…galls me that I tried to comply with Thai law and was told by the agent I was absolutely wrong
Ruth *******
Ruth *******
@Terrence **********
I wouldn’t worry about it. Immigration doesn’t know when you arrived at your condo, only when your lease started. You may have been traveling in another province and in a hotel. As long as you have it, don’t worry about when it was filed. As others have said, it wasn’t your error.
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
@Terrence **********
, most likely you wouldn't be fined unless the current TM30 receipt is expired (with past check-out) date. The rule is TM30 submission within 24 hours after arriving THAT address, not in Thailand. You can submit it again anytime you want/need to.

If you have a valid TM30 receipt already when you have any application at the immigration office, you would be fine. (unless you encounter any police-involved case)
Terrence ***********
Terrence ***********
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@De ******
well in that case I shall look forward to my fine because my landlord is 30 days behind and counting.
De *******
De *******
@Terrence **********
I agree but the foreigner can be fined too up for non compliance. Has happened to a couple friends of mine, hence my pressure on the agent to file quickly.
Terrence ***********
Terrence ***********
OP
@De ******
why? The TM30 is the landlord’s responsibility not the tenant’s.
Brian *********
Brian *********
@De ******
yes, the rule is 24 hours. Agent is wrong. 🤷‍♂️
Willem ****
Willem ****
@De ******
Its 24 hours by law. But i can imagine some immigrations have different local policies.
Michael ***************
Michael ***************
I Always do the TM 30 myself (Copy of Landlord Passport and Rental contract) - so im sure i have it .
Ruth *******
Ruth *******
@Michael **************
don’t you need the house book too? I’m thinking of doing that in the future…just easier.
Roger *********
Roger *********
Terrence ***********
Terrence ***********
OP
Good to know. Thanks
Terrence ***********
Terrence ***********
OP
Thanks.
Tod *********
Tod *********
you heard correctly, they got really hard on people at IT Square for 30 day extensions and ask almost everyone for their copy of the TM30 receipt

Have him make an online profile, add the address where you stay, and file a TM30 on you with the online TM30 program then export/print the receipt

He's gonna be doing nothing in person until the 2nd of Jan when the offices all open back up 🙂

Here's the portal

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