Why is the visa application process in Thailand considered outdated compared to other countries?

Good writing

Welcome to Thailand the country of unlimited beuraucy

Why are you asking others to be disquisitive of your choices?

Great go Malaysia

MDAC

"As it is the modern times of 2024". Definitely not.

Look at the US election campaign 🤣.

I don't understand what you complained about.

In which country do you not have to do this?

Enjoy Malaysia

Who on Earth told you that you had to book everything in advance?

Than be a free spirit in your own country or love like a hippy. You want to come here you need a visa end of story

You sound like a little whinny snowflake who thinks the world should revolve around them just to make it more convenient for them. If you don’t like the Immigration rules here then don’t come.

Please, go to Malaysia

Enjoy Malaysia

Quite simply you don't.

I have never yet been asked for my onward ticket from Thailand. It's an awesome place to roam where and as you wish.

You aren't required to visit. Being the free spirit that you are🤣🤣👍

A very weird post in many ways. The reasons for Thailand being difficult are system fragmentation, that different immigration offices act differently. Simple. Though not business friendly is legislatively ingrained. So why come here? Quite why other countries in the region are generally easier is open to question, but if you want business friendly then it isn't just a case of Malaysia, but Cambodia and Vietnam too, especially Cambodia.

Except the people in Malaysia are really awful. Thais have their moments but Malaysians are infinitely worse. I don't like travelling to Malaysia for this reason, even if the visa process is stupidly easy. Also brings a lot of foreign trash which also really spoils the vibe. I've seen people stab others in the eyes with knives in hostels and rape drunk foreigners etc. No thanks.

Go to malaysia then

Book cheap bus for an exit,nong Kai to Vientiane and a hotel with free cancellation to get around it

WTF do you want ?

Sympathy??

Oh Ricky , yes you’re so right .

It’s unfair and to hard to visit

Thailand so best you go elsewhere and be the clueless whinging farang

I think you mixed up your post. Exactly its 2024! If it were 100 years in the past you wouldn't have to do anything. In modern times now, you are not allowed to take to much fluids accross the customs worldwide, you have to leave your fingerprints at immigrations worldwide, they want to know everything about you, accomodation, itinery etc. Some decades in the past all this wasn't necessary at all. So its just bad luck for you that you live in modern times 😉

What do you have to book ‘ridgidly’ in advance. I’m in Thailand for two months. No plans at all and nothing to force me to do anything. I didn’t have accommodation booked, domestic travel - nothing! I just turned up. No forms to fill in - just turn up.

You won't be missed in Thailand

Campaign for these changes in a country where you have democratic rights. Meanwhile respect the rights of your host country to set their own rules

I am sure Malaysia will love to have you... Good luck!

Than please enjoy Malaysia

Nobody should need a visa.

Arrest and punish those that harm others, while leaving peaceful individuals alone.

There is no need to fix your itinerary to apply for a visa to visit Thailand.

Malaysia is a racist , homophobic, misogynistic , rabidly antisemitic repugnant nation.

They ask for an itinerary. They don't ask for booking confirmations. Just relax.

Hey o to other civilized plscrd

I just did visa free to Phuket.. Received 60 day stamp. They asked how long I was staying. I said 58 dats. They asked if I was going back to UK. I said no, visiting Oman. Was never asked for a ticket. Have never been asked for a ticket by Thai immigration at the airport in 20 years of coming here. It’s usually an airline policy. who request to see onward travel. Earlier this year to go to New Zealand I did have to get an ETA in advance and for that I did have to have onward travel. I just eve to Malaysia and before I left I had to register including listing my accommodation and my return date. I don’t find Thailand difficult compared to many countries just to land in :). If you need a different kind of visa for whatever reason, just follow the rules, they aren’t hard. Try being Thai or other nationalities wanting to go the other way. You’ll find out what hard is.

Simple solution. Don’t come, please don’t come….

Enjoy Malaysia!! 🇲🇾

I also am feeling - after 24 years of coming to Thailand and feeling welcomed- that the current Thai Immigration policies are making me feel —

Less than welcome to travel as a free entity-

Seems really burdensome with all the pre- questions

It is what it is.Your freedom and money your right.Nobody begging you to come to this uncivilized country.

I applied online with the Royal Thai Embassy in Australia for a 90 day tourist visa. I only uploaded my arrival flight and was issued a visa within 3 days no questions asked.

Yes, especially with today’s “reality” where airfares are nonrefundable, expensive to change, and hotel bookings are the same.

Malaysia requires proof of accommodation

In other words - a fixed itinerary

But I’m sure you’ll be fine

Have a Blast!

Many things are still in the past, many. Even more than 100 years. How is it for thai people if they want to go to your country?

Agree with the OP. Thailand needs us as much as we want to be there. They have $50 Billion worth of money invested in Real Estate with no takers. All we ask is to treat us nicely and cut the bureaucratic Red Tapes.

Looking at the comments above, I'd go to Malaysia. Obviously Thailand is not for you. A free spirit is someone who takes it as it comes and adapts, but it appears you are either unwilling too, or most likely cannot deal with uncertainty.

There are more people here on your side than against you. More of us want to help than poke you in the eye. But you gotta meet us halfway

who care 💩hole

Insinuating Thailand is uncivilized.. yea best not you come.

so don't go. There are many other places to visit. Nobody is forcing you to travel to Thailand. Their country, their rules.

Where are you from? Try to help some Thai person to visit your country and you will see the real hassle

The rules are there and they may invoke them but usually they don’t. It tends to get tricky when people are trying to live in Thailand but using visa exemptions instead of getting the correct visa. At that point immigration may ask for proof of exit ticket.

Now all you do is turn up at immigration with your passport and get a 60 day visa exemption. What’s so hard about that? That don’t even ask where you will be staying!

Go to Malaysia then. No one will miss you or notice your absence in Thailand. Salamat!

Stay away then

Europe also require this, but it can always be changed. Me and my Thai spouse had a very detailed 5-country agenda. We hired a company to help with the European visa. They basically scrapped our detailed itinerary and submitted something that showed us going to two countries. Still got the visa and went on our more detailed vacay

In Cyprus I am usually offered a small glass of free spirit whenever I go to buy some take away food. 🤪

Enjoy Malaysia

It's probly not so much thai immigration that'll be bothered more than likely the airline your flying with, got asked for onward travel when I cam to Thailand 15 days ago ad had a single, pressure they made note I just said I'm booking today before I borded and was sufficient but booked a fake ticked incase thai immigration asked and I had the metv

The reason Thailand does this, Thailand has a long and storied history of people coming and never leaving. Many times these people don't have sufficient finances for long term lodging and subsistence, so they end up working illegally, begging or scamming. So Thailand requires a ticket out of Thailand, proof of lodging, and proof of finances, and for some proof of insurance.

I am flying in on a one way Saturday. Same as I have 10 times before. I must be more of a free spirit….

Yeah not once have I had to prove anything just turn up at airport and stamped in for 60 days, you make it hard for yourself by the sounds of it

Enjoy Malaysia. Don’t expect much free spirit though

A lot of countries are visa exempt for 60 days . Havent been asked for any details of my visits yet

Malaysia also requires proof of onward travel. There are a few in the region not doing it, but Malaysia does.

A free spirit who likes to air frustration on FB 🤔😂😂😂

I just wrote a hotel on Ko Saan road, but it wasn't where I stayed in the end because it was torn down. you can still be a free spirit

Thailand doesn't require you to book everything rigidly in advance. Just a ticket out of Thailand, within your visa time, in Thailand. Many countries require this. Maybe proof of lodging, if asked, the first hotel booking for a couple of days, has been sufficient.

Good point! You should not come to Thailand. Have fun in Malaysia! Selamat Jalan. Don't be too much of a free spirit there or you might get jailed for life though

You do not commit to anything you put in a Visa application, you are free to roam as you please