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When should I do my 90-day report after changing to a Non-O Thai Wife visa?

Tommy *******
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Hello all! Question regarding the 90 days report :

On March 28 of this year, I went to CW Immigration to change my visa exemption stamp to a Non"O" Thai Wife 3 months visa. They told me to come back on the 18th, which was yesterday.

Yesterday, April 18, I received the said Non"O" Thai Wife 3 months visa, which will allow me to request a 1 year extension in 45 days.

That created a whole lot of stamps in my new passport. They stamped a Non-Immigrant Visa dated April 3 and immediately stamped "USED" over it, then stamped the Non"O" Thai Wife visa on the next page. It said "admitted" on April 3, until July 1st, 2023. I don't know why they had to go through this process but I guess there's an obvious reason other than the fact that they seem to really love to play with a lot of different stamps...

That being said, my main question is : When should I do the 90 days report? The officer gave me my passport back at exactly 11:59 and wouldn't answer my questions because they were closing for lunch...

Do I need to do my 90 days report based on my initial entry to Thailand on March 25, or based on the new visa dated April 3? I'm guessing it shouldn't be based on the date I received the stamp in my passport, which was April 18th, as there is no mention of this date anywhere on the stamp. I'm not sure if switching from a visa exemption to a Non-O resets the counter for the 90 days report.

I hope that's clear, I know there's a lot of date, but I wanted to be as thorough as possible.

Thanks in advance for your kind help, as usual!
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The user inquired about the 90-day reporting process after changing their visa status from a visa exemption to a Non-O Thai Wife visa. They are confused about whether the 90-day reporting should be based on their initial entry date or the new visa date. Multiple comments clarified that the 90-day reporting requirement does not begin until they receive a 1-year extension. The original entry and the initial Non-O visa do not require a report until the first yearly extension is granted, at which point they will receive a document stating when the 90-day report is due.
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Tommy *******
Tommy *******
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I just want to take a few seconds to really thank all the people who provided really useful information here, you guys are superstars!!
@Ellie ******
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@John *********
, you really removed a lot of stress on my mind, and I am eternally grateful for your help. It's not the first time, and probably not the last. Thank you so much for your precious advice! I will pay it forward!
Tod *********
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@Tommy ******
okay this is how it works out,

When you go from a visa exempt or a tourist visa entry to a 90 day non-O visa you don't START your 90 day reporting until you're actually ON an extension that lets you stay here 90 days or more

Neither the visa exempt entry OR a tourist visa with an extension lets you stay 90 days, AND getting that initial 90 day Non-O doesn't add to the days you've been here because you were here as a TOURIST before and now you're here as a person on a Non-O visa

BUT

Even that 90 day Non-O visa doesn't require a 90 day report because you can't be IN thailand longer than 90 days until you get an extension <- AND it's this first yearly extension that you get that they will give you a small paper in your passport saying when your FIRST 90 day report is due

SO until you get your year extension you don't worry about doing a 90 day report

That paper they will put in your passport when you get the first yearly extension looks like this
Tommy *******
Tommy *******
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That's pretty clear, thanks for confirming what other posters mentioned in an extremely clear way! (I mean you are being extremely clear, I'm not being sarcastic!)
Tommy *******
Tommy *******
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Yep, my brand new passport has now 3 pages used in Thailand since March 25! Yay! 555
Tod *********
Tod *********
@Tommy ******
and it's totally NORMAL when you apply for an in country Non-Immimgrant visa to get a Non-Imm visa stamped in, get a USED stamp stuck on it then get a new 90 day stamp that lets you stay on that visa until you can apply for an extension. Usually takes about 2 pages in your passport for the stamps

This is an old set of stamps and it's for "retirement" (ใช้ชีวตบันปลาย <- live out the end of your life 😮 ) But shows you the stamps
Tommy *******
Tommy *******
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Oh, I've got one more question while we're at it. I was wondering if I had to prepare all the same documents again in 45 days for the 1 year extension. Do I need to get a new fresh Kor Ror 2 from my district office, along with the proof of funds? I know it needs to be done at every yearly extension, but I wonder if they request it when you just showed them these documents for the initial, 90 days Non-O Thai Wife visa? Thanks in advance! (My guess is that I need a fresh copy of everything even if it's been only 45 days, but I'd love to avoid a visit to the district office in this temperature!)
Tommy *******
Tommy *******
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I hope some of the admins will see this? Should I post this question in a new topic instead?
John **********
John **********
Generally you won't start 90 day reports until you have the 12 months extension as you will be back to immigration office within the 90 days. They would at that point staple a bit of paper in the back of your passport with the date to do the 90 day report.
Tommy *******
Tommy *******
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I see! That makes a lot of sense as well! Guess I'll just wait for the next visit. I always want to plan everything in advance as much as possible with Google Calendar reminders and documents ready to make sure I don't forget anything, but in this case, they can inform me on my next visit. I should learn to be more patient and not wasting this group's time! Nonetheless, I really appreciate your insights! Thanks!
John **********
John **********
@Tommy ******
no harm in asking, a lot of knowledge in this group.
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
That is a totally normal procedure. The first "used" stamp is the actual in-country visa. It was used to give you permission to stay in Thailand for 90 days for the reason of a visa. That "admitted" stamp is the one you are staying in Thailand on now.

Your 90 days technically start on the day you are approved to stay on a long-term visa. Ask the exact date when you go to the immigration office to apply for a 1-year extension. Usually, I/O would give you a note about the date your first 90 days report is due.
Tommy *******
Tommy *******
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Thanks, I really appreciate the explanation and terminology sheet! Will definitely double-check with staff at CW when I go back in June to request the 1 year extension. But what you're telling me makes a lot of sense. Much grateful for your help! Thanks!
Ellie *******
Ellie *******
Hopefully, this could help you to understand some.

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