What should I consider bringing or leaving behind when retiring to Thailand?

Mar 25, 2024
8 months ago
Anna *********
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First time posting here. My husband and I are planning to retire in Thailand this year. ✈️ We are in the US. In your opinion, what would you recommend shipping from your home country, and what do you wish you hadn't? Thank you very much for your help ☺
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When planning to retire in Thailand and move from the US, the general consensus among expats is to ship as little as possible. Personal and sentimental items are often recommended, such as clothing suitable for the warmer climate, family photos, and irreplaceable heirlooms. Many expats suggest leaving furniture behind, as most rental accommodations are already furnished and buying new items in Thailand is often more economical. There are also considerations regarding import taxes and challenges with electronics due to differing voltage requirements. Specific necessities that expats have recommended shipping include quality kitchen tools, certain personal care items like deodorant, and high-quality furniture or items difficult to find in Thailand. Ultimately, the focus is on starting fresh in a new home, where most everyday items can be easily purchased locally.
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Gordon *******
Have you visit Thailand before?
Marty ********
Do not ship wood furniture.

Mark Everything USED on every item in your inventory. If you purchase anything electronic remember it is 220volts here. Take a picture of everything shown in the top of your shipping boxes before they close it. Bury your expensive items deep in the shipping boxes.
Julie **********
If you want a top sheet on your bed you might just bring one. Sheet sets here include a fitted sheet, 2 pillow cases and 2 bolster cases. It's usually too warm for a blanket so I was hoping to find one and have been unsuccessful at all the places I see bedding being sold. I'm sure I could get online, but some things I want to feel before I buy
Chuck *********
Going back to the states in a few months for a short visit. I will bring back flat sheets as Thai's don't use them (similar to europe) and can be hard to find here.
Tim *******
I regretted shipping the wife with me. But hay hum
Zoe ******
We only shipped what's sentential for us which are mostly books. I found the furniture here are actually better in quality and prices, most rentals are also furnished. I don't miss anything I left behind, but my husband is 6'2 so he wishes he had bought more pants that would fit him. We ended up bringing 50 boxes, of which 40 are books/art books. I highly recommend Asian Tigers for international shipping. They made the whole move very easy.
Anna *********
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@Zoe *****
I can resonate with you! My main attachment is my books! And I have a few handbags for work that I want to bring with me. I found Asian Tigers off the Internet search yesterday and filled out the quote form. I hope to hear back soon.
Zoe ******
@Anna ********
my husband and I are both artists, so we do have lots of art and reference books which are very valuable to us. We've been living overseas in different countries for 5+ years and always managed to at least bring our books with us. I was very happy with Asian Tigers's service. Feel free to message me if you have other questions.
Julie **********
Shoes, especially if you don't have small feet. Underwear for men if you're coming with any). If you're bringing a dog, I can give you a separate list.
Todd **********
Well if you want to spend $30K plus US for a container go right ahead. Leave it and get new in Thailand
Mike *******
Bring your bicycle!
Terrence ***********
Ship some good pots and pans
Soran ******
Other than your cloth and personal stuff + some cheese, I would say nothing. Everything is available in Thailand at very affordable prices
Mark ********
Less is more😎🙏
Mark *********
Simply forget anything that you can't carry in with you on arrival.
เอ็ดเวิร์ด *******
ship a waterpik
Anna *********
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@เอ็ดเวิร์ด ******
really? We have them. Might need a converter though, right?
เอ็ดเวิร์ด *******
my waterpik is rechargeable, plugs in just like a phone
Bennett ********
If you have high quality furniture or family heirlooms it's worth shipping. We shipped our furniture & some belongings because we have some good quality pieces & antiques that we couldn't afford to replace - we'd end up buying junk from Ikea. And some were family heirlooms, so irreplaceable. So the shipping costs were less than buying new items of that caliber. If you have only average furniture, can just buy new in Thailand. But if you have fine pieces, it's worth bringing. And yes, most apartments here are furnished. But if you're moving over permanently, you can rent a storage space until you work out details of your longterm home. (That's what we did. Storage is way cheaper here than in U.S.)
Stephanie ******************
Is it worth bringing my sewing machine?
Chuck *********
@Stephanie *****************
Thailand is 220 V 50 cycles. Devices with a motor will not work unless they are dual voltage. Phones & laptops are fine. Best example I can think of is even if you use a 220v to 110v converter an analog clock will run 10 minutes slow every hour.
Steve **********
@Stephanie *****************
no, no conversation about bringing one in.

They're cheap as hell at good guys or lotus
Michael **************
Nothing. They will tax you on it
Steve **********
@Michael *************
' tax you in it ' ?
Robert *****
Wife and I moved to Bangkok from Los Angeles. We brought the normal 2 suitcases and a carry on EACH. That’s it. We leased a one bedroom furnished condo for 9,000 Baht. ($258 USD a month) 6th floor, elevator, balcony, nice refrigerator, new bed, lots of closet space. Tub and shower. Everything modern. We can walk to Fashion Island Mall. No laundry so I splurged on a new combo washer dryer that they installed on our balcony. Many balconies have this unit. She loves it, very quiet. Oh, and a pool on the 2nd floor…
Anna *********
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@Robert ****
We plan to rent Airbnb for a couple months at least to get started. ฿9000 a month is an incredibly good price.
Robert *****
@Anna ********
Anna. There are two prices in Thailand. A Farang price and a Thai price. I think they assume Farangs will pay more and as an example I had previously search around and called the condo complex. Price was 15,000 baht. But later in the week when my Thai wife called it was 9,000 baht. Hmmm.

My advice is have a Thai friend make inquiries for you..🙏. Bob
Anna *********
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@Robert ****
it’s a shame but it’s true. I’m Thai so I’ll be “speaker of the house” when we get there 555.
Christine *******
Things every expat woman wishes they would have brought with them; cotton underwear (virtually impossible to find here), bras (if you're bigger than a C cup), deodorant (at least enough until you figure out how to use Lazada), and SHOES if you wear anything above a U.S. size 8--you'll be laughed out of stores for asking for any size bigger than that! If you're plus-size you will have a harder time finding clothes here. If you like wearing jeans (not advisable in this heat), bring many pairs.
Anna *********
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I’m from Thailand actually but I do not like most push-up bras over there. As I get older, I’m looking for more comfort. Luckily, just like you said there are plenty of choices now. I can see my husband in fisherman pants every day.
Christopher *************
Ship nothing , pointless
Christine *******
Don't bother shipping anything! Houses and apartments/condos here come furnished. Your electronics (besides laptops and such) will need converters; not worth the hassle, in my opinion. Whatever personal items you need, bring as additional luggage. It's cheaper than paying for shipping.
Al ********
I’m from the USA also, maybe bbq stuff or higher end kitchen stuff and utensils and such. I finally found a great bbq grill after joining Lazada on line app same as Amazon. I’ve been coming to Thailand 24 years and things are much better now than many years ago. Seems like I can find everything I need now at big C or lotus stores. I still can’t find big sticks of speed sticks deodorant though 555
Derek ********
I moved to thailand in november last year i sold donated and gave to friends family every posession ive ever had anything you need is here i even brought winter gear dont believe ill ever need it

Just let go it the most freeing feeling in the world
Anna *********
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@Derek *******
For sure. I appreciate the opportunity to start over.
Jorge ****
@Derek *******
same here. I thought I'd need so many things I had back home, but the reality was that it was all an illusion. We can live and be happy just as the common folk live here. There is one thing I miss dearly... Fritos Doritos!
Anna *********
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@Jorge ***
I love spicy Cheetos. The last time I was in Thailand, I saw them at 7-Eleven.
Derek ********
@Jorge ***
i dont miss any of that arteriy hardening blood pressure rising blood sugar regulating shit

Where are you?
Jorge ****
Derek ********
But i love phuket

Spent a couple weeks in karon
Derek ********
@Jorge ***
im way up north in chiayphum province
Jorge ****
@Derek *******
am not familiar with that province. Suspect is quiet and laid back. What is the provincial capital?
Derek ********
I live in a farm village no bars no hookers no nothing really go to bed when i gets dark and wake up at dawn lol
Chuck *********
@Derek *******
sounds like where I am building in Nong Bua Lamphu
Derek ********
@Chuck ********
you are 2 provinces away

Khon kaen privince is between you and i

Theres a big lake up that way that ive wanted to check oiut
Derek ********
They love to name capital cities after the province lol
Derek ********
@Jorge ***
chiayphum
Jorge ****
Ant ******
Keep 1 foot in and 1 foot out
Derek ********
@Ant *****
and do the hokey pokey cuz that what its all aboit
Jon ******
Maple syrup, extra dark. As much as you can pack. 1-2 laptops: Ryzen3 or higher, i3 or higher. Yes you can buy maple syrup locally in Thailand, but at 100-300% markup depending on where. Laptops arent so bad of a price markup (maybe 15-50%), and may also lack certain features that the US equivalent model may have as standard.

Other things like razor blades, clippers, or small electronics or small tools that might be difficult to find at the same quality in Thailand. But then again, amazon.com US does have some limited shipping to Thailand... And the import estimates are acceptible.
Anna *********
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@Jon *****
Thank you.
Henrik *****
Ship Nothing
Korn *******
You wanna carry your habits to Thailand? No ! I guess you should come to see here first then you can have many idea
Anna *********
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@Korn ******
I am from Thailand actually, been living in the US for too long I suppose. I have developed some attachments. 😁
Ajarn *******
Anything you are not wearing is subject to 100% value import tax. Come in lookin' like a rapper dawg's byich...and pimp hubby up to the limit.
Conrad **********
Take your clothes and jewels. Maybe your husband also
Paula *********
Seven seas worldwide shipping. From australia to Thailand, fantastic service and you pack your own pods. Good value too. 12 weeks to get to Thailand
Ivan *********
@Paula ********
They are located down the road from me in Kent .Ball park cost of a Pod ? I understand a bit about Tariffs because my wife worked for a shipping company for many years .I think I agree with a lot of the comments written about bringing stuff to Thailand .
Paula *********
@Ivan ********
small pod was around $1000 Australian so well worth it.
Paula *********
@Ivan ********
we got a small pod, so it was a shared container, my Hubby wanted to bring over his tools etc and we are glad we did.
Ivan *********
@Paula ********
Without tools you cannot do things around the home /Garden -Makes very good sense .
Ivan *********
Thank you.
Phil ******
@Anna ********
a few personal effects and NOTHING else
Andy ************
My usual comment give 90 % if it away or sell it you really don’t or won’t need it and it will be a pain to deal with. Bring you most precious 10%. Then enjoy shopping for great value for money Thai priced item you might need
Steve **********
Bring summer clothes , and umbrella.

Donate EVERYTHING else, unless you plan on returning.

I assume you've spend time here.
Tree *******
Excellent question! My husband and I are also from the US and planning to retire there later this year.
Anna *********
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@Tree ******
Congratulations 🎉 I find the process stressful and exciting at the same time. I’m grateful for the help from this forum.
Tree *******
@Anna ********
I just saw your other comment about eventually moving to Hua Hin. We really like that area and a bit further north in Cha-am. That breeze you get daily down there really helps make the heat and humidity more tolerable.
Monzi *************
I recently moved to Hua Hin - the condos and homes are furnished although you could try find unfurnished one. I only brought clothes, phone & computer.

Clothing - light clothing for hot weather.

Hardly ever wear closed shoes.

I seriously can’t think of anything I wished I had brought with me.
Colin *********
@Monzi ************
is it really worth taking your computer with you to Thailand? Did you mean Desktop or Laptop? Depending on current my circumstances, I hope to move to Thailand within 2 years & I'm wondering if to have my Desktop and higher end Monitor sent there via my Thai friend who lives close to me and has a house in Thailand (that would, from what I've read, avoid any taxes/customs charges.). From what comments I've read, things such as iPhones, computer equipment etc., are expensive in Thailand
Monzi *************
@Colin ********
is brought a laptop - you can buy here too. The only thing is if you use apps on your phone - be sure to download before you come.

The iPhone and Apple products are a bit more expensive here than in USA. But not that much more.

For banking always be sure to download any apps before you come
Colin *********
Monzi *************
@Colin ********
- anytime if I can answer any specific questions you may have - feel free to DM me.
Colin *********
@Monzi ************
thanks again
Anna *********
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@Monzi ************
I like Crocs and Skechers a lot. They now have those in Thailand too. I have found they are of higher quality than typical Thai sandals.
Chuck *********
@Anna ********
where did you find Sketchers and do they have larger sizes (11-
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w)?
Monzi *************
@Anna ********
- I agree!
Ettie *********
After sitting 🪑in the most uncomfortable variety of chairs at our desks for 2 years, we brought our Herman Miller chairs. Best decision ever! 🥳
Ettie *********
When we sold our house we needed to bring some essential documents, family albums etc. So, the chairs were a bonus to the small shipment.
Rick *********
I wish I'd brought my king-size sleeper sofa that weighs 500 pounds.
Rick *********
I was making a joke. Unless you have priceless heirlooms, shipping costs will usually exceed replacement cost in Thailand
Anna *********
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@Rick ********
we love our Casper mattress. Their mattresses are available in Thailand too but cost double the price in the US. 😖
Jay ****
Only clothes and keepsakes. Nothing else is worth bringing. Vehicles are not allowed to be imported.
Anna *********
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@Jay ***
I love your profile picture!
Joann ********************
If you are moving to Pattaya, you will find a big used bookstore.
Bart **************
It depends on what you have, but in general I would be very conservative spending significant $$ on getting stuff over from a different continent. In the end it is still the same stuff; relocating it is from that perspective not adding value. You also need to account for the random outcomes of Thai customs; it is possible they value your stuff so high that it is more economical to ditch it, despite already having incurred the shipping cost. Also take into account the age of your items. Is your tv brand new, or 6 years old? Makes a huge difference wrt the day value.

When I moved, I had my stuff in storage, and flew some things over in 2-3 rounds. I'm very happy that after some time I realized that the storage was just a value sinkhole as pretty much everything in there had already lost its value. I then found a buyer for the most important items (fridge, washing machine). She was just divorced and really struggling, she could really use a bargain or she may not even have been able to afford those things. That's when I knew the decision was right. I could have shipped the items to Thailand but I'd have incurred a similar value loss, in cost. Now my value loss was a write-off, but I helped someone else, and the help was very well spent. Also on the other side, not having the furniture anymore turned out to be an advantage. Most of the units are fully furnished, which is really convenient and avoids moving around your stuff every time you move. I moved two times and the only big piece to move was a desk. I am very happy to rent the rest of the furniture. Having my own stuff here would have meant we'd have to get unfurnished units, which then in turn would have meant we'd also have to buy many things, such as a bed.
Anna *********
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@Bart *************
what a great outcome for you! We plan to sell/donate most of our stuff before selling the house. We or you could say I (my husband doesn’t care one way or the other) only have two pieces of furniture I “consider” bringing (not so much now that I read comments here). Aside from that, I would like to bring my iFIT treadmill and rower (I know they are heavy.) I will be sad to part with them but we’ll just walk along the beach instead. Besides, plenty of condos have great gym equipment. I know I will have to create a new life/routine. Advice here is the push I need.
Bart **************
@Anna ********
I would never consider bringing gym equipment over, for the exact reason you post: condos here already have it. Odds are that you prefer a lifestyle in relative comfort, and the condos in that range all have reasonable to good gyms. Although indeed the write-off on them could be substantial, I think getting them over would be the wrong decision regardless. And also: where would you want to place them? Most condos are chicken cages, so if you want to place these things you almost need to have an extra room just for these items. And then the landlord needs to agree storing the bed elsewhere, all while there is equipment available for use elsewhere in the building. Nah, don't.
Bart **************
On the 'buying additional baggage' part: the airlines I've looked at do not offer this (not realistically). Adding a second 23 kg suitcase would cost the same as another return ticket. I think there are airlines out there that still offer it for a realistic price, but don't be surprised if this turns out less viable. As you'll probably be back at times, maybe you can store a suitcase temporarily with someone.
Joann ********************
Personal papers, family pics and half the amount of clothes you think you need. Golf clubs if you all golf and that’s it I sold everything and put things in a 5x7 storage. Now I’m back in the states and selling everything in storage. One you get there you realize you don’t need stuff
Anna *********
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@Joann *******************
I’m going to keep this mantra “half the amount of clothes I need”. 😆 I think my husband will thank you. 😊
Alan ********
Really do not bring much most places are already furnished start fresh no winter clothes you can get new clothes, shoes, cheaper here no electrics power plugs are different so end up with multiple adapters its a pain can get books in exchange at most bars.
Julie **********
I moved here 2 months ago. I wish I had brought my razor and some ranch dressing packets. You can purchase online but the price is outrageous. We brought some clothes, but I should have bought more shorts, because I have a butt. If you're shaped like an Asian you can buy here very cheap. Shirts and dresses buy here, though you may see dresses at the market that will bleed dye badly. What you're probably going to miss the most is people and good plumbing, 2 things you can't bring with you.
Julie **********
@Alan *******
where can you get shoes cheaper? The ones I find are not much, if any cheaper than US, and can rarely find my size.
Keith ******
I took my golf clubs and some clothes.
Jorge ****
Besides the usual two suitcases, I had a friend bring me a third one with my favorite books to read: English lit, novels, poetry, investment, computer, etc. Within two years of having a new life, I had read none, and most got moldy and the paped yellowed out because of moisture. Had to throw away most. Wortless effort. Leather belts, shoes, boots, and nice jacket also got moldy and ecky. Only bring totally irreplaceable items. Not things one can buy at any store, as this is a modern civilization. We have everything. Often at a fraction of the cost.
Anna *********
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@Jorge ***
I get it. I’m from Thailand and I don’t like the heat there. We avoided visiting Thailand in summer. I’ve never had problems with my books getting moldy in Bangkok, but they did turn yellow even when we keep them in closed cabinets.
Mia **********
@Jorge ***
Hi, I have heard this about mold being an issue over there... is it all parts of Thailand or only certain areas? We live in a very damp misty part of UK & get black mold in the house, which is a health issue... is that a problem in Thailand too? What ways do you tackle it? Thanks
Jorge ****
@Mia *********
I lived in downtown BKK in a common apt bld. It had air con, which I used to cool down the studio, then used the fan for the evening. After a few months, my books edges got moldy and also noticed green mold on the side of the studio's built in clothes closet. I hear if one keeps the air con on
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it helps out, but I did not want to go thru the expense. Two years later, moved south to Phuket, and the prob here was worse. I do not know how to quantify humidity but after opening and closing the fridge door under normal usage, there is lots of ice forming on the freezer and got to manually defrost every 5-6 days, and the water collected is about half a gallon. I tell my friends humidity approaches 100%. I sweat a lot, even sitting in the living room, fan blowing on me. Shower twice daily. Sounds terrible but I do not want to face a Norh American winter (I used to snow ski, but those days are past me).
Mia **********
@Jorge ***
Thanks. Do you think dehumidifers might help with moisture in that case?
Jorge ****
@Mia *********
I regret I have no experience or know about dehumidifiers. In the rainy season, we could not hang clothes to dry outside, so we had to hang them indoors in a clothes rack and have a fan blow on them overnight. The monsoon lasts nearly 6 months and one needs air circulation in spite of humidity.
Mia **********
@Jorge ***
One more question then ill leave you alone 🤣 Do they use any form of heating during colder damp months? Does it get cold enough for a fire? Thanks again
Jorge ****
@Mia *********
it can get cold in the northern provinces, Chiang Mai, Udon Thani... and have seen pics of villagers wearing jackets, but I have never seen, neither in the city nor countryside, any kind of heating device in use at home or for sale at the store. There are laundromats with clothes dryers. There are also pizza restaurants and bakeries with ovens, but have never heard or seen of an oven at home. BBQ pits are common, both elaborate ones, and small simple ones as the locals use them for cooking, but outdoors only. Usually wood brickes is sold at the stores. This last part is popular and you can see folks BBQ on the side of the road selling BBQ chicken, pork, etc. Even I have a small one, but never for heating.
Mia **********
@Jorge ***
Thank you! 🙂
Jorge ****
@Mia *********
you're welcome. Once you get here, you'll find ways to deal with the environment. They do. Bring things unique to you. Good luck@
Anna *********
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@Jorge ***
I love reading and hope to have more time reading after retirement. I even checked if Amazon will ship to Thailand (aside from Kindle books). But I will probably spend my free time eating Thai food the first few years. I always had a list whenever I visited Thailand 😅
Jorge ****
@Anna ********
starting a new life is also a door to discovery. I personally found out that after decades of playing guitar and not being good at it, am a better pianist and now use an electronic grand piano that cost me less than my best guitar. Same with painting. For decades struggled with watercolor, yet after switching to acrylics, I can paint what I could never do before. Just about all the topics I want to read about are online these days, and since am getting older and my eye vision is slowly failing, guess what? I can adjust the font size on the computer for easy reading. Enjoy your happy wandering!
Anna *********
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@Jorge ***
looks like you are making the most of your retirement. I wish I could be more artistic, but I have no patience. It would probably take me a year of retirement to recoup my sleep! My priority is to improve my wellness. Lucky for me I love Thai massage and will only have to pay $10-$20 versus $100 here.
Jorge ****
@Anna ********
adjusting from a working life to retirement can take a year or two. I call it "recovering from work", but slowly one realizes there are no deadlines, impatient customers, unreasonable bosses, etc. It's not hard to let go of the routine and even one's own expectations. The reality sets in... we are free till Kingdom comes.
Tulip ********
Some quality personal items. I brought, amongst other things a cowhide power recliner. I brought my favourite fishing gear. Some quality tools and a cowhide power suite. Quality leather is almost impossible here.
Lee ************
Ship nothing, bring 2 suitcases each and buy the rest out here
Phil *******
Things that are difficukt to find in Thaiand. Or where shipping is cost effective compared to selling and rebuying new like . High quality furniture..

Good tools like brooms. Good garden spades, forks and shovels.
Sean **********
@Phil ******
😂 the brooms make me laugh
Sean **********
I moved to Thailand with two suitcases. No furniture or sentimental, etc.

What I found here is that electronics are more expensive and of course designed for a Thai market. Keyboards etc. are tie or combination Thai and English alphabet.

What I miss from the US is personal items such as toothpaste, shaving cream, razor blades those things are different, and in my opinion the quality is not as good here
Mary ********
Really the only things you should bring with you are essentials. I sold and donated everything and came over with just a carryon and never regretted it. The few learnings I have had I rectified with my last trip back and brought back towels, sheets and underwear, because finding these quality items can be challenging. Pack only your lightest clothing. Furniture and other household items are easily purchased here at a fraction of the cost.
Bruce *****************
@Mary *******
for linen go to ikea in bangkok
Mary ********
@Bruce ****************
LOL I avoid Bangkok whenever possible - too crowded! But yeah, brought enough back with me from my last trip to Aus to last me a while 🙂 But the reality is we can find almost everything here if we look hard enough and Bangkok obviously has the best shopping.
Edwina ***********
@Mary *******
bedding, towels and underware - 100% cotton only, (no synthetics) are essential to bring with you.
Mary ********
@Edwina **********
and the thinnest material / most breathable for clothing as the heat and humidity can be brutal for us here lol so until you acclimatize you need to be comfortable. I did bring 1 pair of jeans and in the 15 months living here have worn them less than a handful of times and those were short periods. Shorts and casual dresses are more useful. Good shoes too would be an essential. Flats, sandals, thongs, sandshoes/tennis shoes with good arch support are hard to find in larger sizes (I'm an AU7/US8 - I struggle with this lol)
Anna *********
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@Mary *******
Kudo to you. For clothing, in my experience, I think Thailand lacks variety of gym/athleisure wear.
Mary ********
@Anna ********
I've managed to buy clothing here but notice that sizing can be difficult off the rack for western sizes. Shein is great though and makes shopping a bit easier. It does of course depend on where you are. In Hua Hin it was a bit easier than it is in PKK to shop for clothes. Mind you though, because of the heat here I forgo style for comfort and coolness these days lol
Anna *********
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@Mary *******
Thank you! I didn’t know SHEIN operates in Thailand. I’m going to try their workout leggings to check if the quality is acceptable.
Mary ********
@Anna ********
yup, Shein, Lazada and a few others are over here. It is hit and miss on quality unfortunately and my suggestion is to order a larger size than you think as sizing is a bit wonky, but as cheap as they are it's just not a big deal if it is a fail and I usually find someone to pass things to that don't fit, so not a total loss. I use the oversized rainbow shorts here mainly, no leggings, and a thin top but my main exercise is walking 8 kms around the beach path here lol so the cooler it is the more likely I am to walk further. I did buy a few really thin sleeveless shirts last time I went back to Australia which work a treat here, I love that no one cares if I match or am fashionable here. I do think it depends on where you settle though. We started off in Hua Hin and ended up in paradise lol a small fishing village just north of Prachuap Khiri Khan city. We've been here for a year now and I am absolutely loving how easy life is.
Anna *********
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@Mary *******
I’m so glad to hear that. It’s my husband’s dream to live in a seaside town. I do love beaches too. My sister thinks Hua Hin is boring. But we always had great time there.
Mary ********
@Anna ********
I love Hua Hin, but in small doses as it's pretty busy. We spent the first few months there before coming here and honestly, for what we wanted, this is perfect and Hua Hin is only an hour and a bit up the road, so when we want to go to the shopping centres or have a night away to enjoy the night life, it's easy enough to head there. We always stay at Seamira House when we go there as it has really comfy beds and is close to the restaurants and shops we like. I'll have to say though I am not bored where I am as there is always something to do and I enjoy the quiet and peace this place affords us. Where you settle needs to match your own needs. For me, I just wanted a quiet beachfront cottage in a little fishing village - where else in the world could I have this at 11,000 baht lol we are crazy happy here.
Brad *******
Zero...Thailand has more and better consumer goods than the US
Steve **********
Some, ya, get there occassionally but old stock...nothing new. Canned US veggies, no more,

Once inventory out. No more

But thx
Steve **********
@Brad ******
That's true, and cheaper.

You will miss US foods at supermarkets.
Mike *********
@Steve *********
try Villa Market they have a few in Thailand and offer brands and food from US and other expat countries.
Steve **********
@Mike ********
( Villa Market) , on Phrom Phong, bkk, used to, but no longer. Distributor stopped most westen imports . A go to on Sukhumvit, said same.

Even famous Kasem's on Chiang Moi in Chiangmai said distributors stopped a year ago.

It's the Chinese wave.

But thx
Anna *********
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@Steve *********
wow I too thought Villa market would be the good source. Things have changed so much in Thailand for sure. My friend said some streets in Bangkok even have Chinese translation now. I have yet to see that. I don’t know what’s going on with China. I have heard a lot of them are coming to the US as well but that’s another topic of conversation.
Steve **********
@Anna ********
Some in US, but big $ to Vancouver for RE
Steve **********
@Anna ********
Its more Villa, they all have same group of distributors
Steve **********
@Anna ********
Chiang Mai, my home over 20+ years used to accommodate the western residents. Now stopped. RE now being bought ( thru straws ) on an unparalleled scale.

I don't care, if benefits locals, that's the intent, but many vendors don't meet Chinese needs, and any industry relying on tips in out of business
Mike *********
@Steve *********
wow, I still get American stuff at the Villa in Pattaya. Guess each one is different.
Steve **********
No big deal, now eat out or grab deliver a bit more
Steve **********
@Mike ********
same distributor.

Like Rimping on chiangmai.
Brad *******
@Steve *********
not really if you look around
Steve **********
@Brad ******
Have looked at Tops. Lotus, Rimping.., etc week by week everything ( moreso canned veggies and snacks) are from China.

Been lived here 21 years, have watched the replacement and shrinkage.
Brad *******
@Steve *********
go to the upscale markets. They have plenty of western foods
Steve **********
@Brad ******
Just what is an upscale supermarket here..what Province.

I shop Chiangmai and Bangkok when down there.
Brad *******
@Steve *********
in Central World in Bangkok there's one next to the food court. Has everything
Steve **********
@Brad ******
Have been gong there for years.

You must be new, or not here long. Most western foods are Chinese.
Brad *******
@Steve *********
what can't you find specifically?
Stuart ***********
As other's have said, ship nothing.

If you want American TV bring an Amazon Fire stick or similar as they are very small and it saves looking around for one. Maybe get a dual sim phone for Thailand/USA sim cards and keep a cheap phone line open in the states.
Anna *********
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@Stuart **********
Thank you. I have been researching on that too. We use Alexa and Alexa compatible devices here and would like to bring them with us. We plan to upgrade cell phones and watches before moving as they are cheaper in the US.
Robert *****
@Anna ********
I talk to my kids in the states on Facebook messenger almost daily. For free. Also you Dan download LINE DOT COM and make free calls from anywhere on your old phone as long as you have WiFI.
Anna *********
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@Robert ****
I’m glad you and your kids stay in touch. The technology makes a lot of things possible at a fraction of cost now. I’m from Thailand. I bought Facebook portal for my mom. She loves it and has been calling me way too often 😆 I can’t believe how popular LINE is over there. I downloaded LINE MAN for food delivery when we were there. I think I saw over 20 LINEMAN motorcycles a day whenever I was out and about. I like the fact that I could order my mom in Thailand a pizza or her favorite sushi from America. 😍
Martyn ***********
ship nothing... bring extra baggage for personal or sentimental stuff.

Everything else not worth it, tax and hassle... most things no really suitable for here really, make a new start..
Anna *********
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@Martyn **********
Will definitely be a new start for us and we are very excited and nervous at the same time.
Steve **********
@Anna ********
both are understandable.
Martyn ***********
@Anna ********
I did it 8 years back. Sold everything, brought some personal photos, paperwork etc. that's it... new house, new furniture, new life... you will love it.
Jon ********
Everything for the most part is replaceable. Your electronics won’t work. Other than a custom guitar or something unique, just bring your summer clothes in
Mike *******
Bring a phone with your old US number! I transferred my number to Ting Mobile. It had come in very handy. American financial institutions are not going to send a verification code to a foreign phone number!
Jon ********
@Mike ******
you’re talking to the wrong person. In not the poster. Some banks will send a code to a Thai number, some won’t. My experience.
Mike *******
@Jon *******
my electronics all worked without any changes.
Jon ********
@Mike ******
only my Apple stuff worked
Nathan ******
Other than Mexican food, nothing.
Steve **********
@Nathan *****
plenty of good Mexican, tex- Mexican here
Mike *********
@Nathan *****
you can take a trip over to Cambodia as they have a lot of good Mexican food in Phnom Penh. I found a lot of American brands and foods we Americans are used to during my visit.
Connie **********
@Nathan *****
Would love some jalapeño seeds!
Marty *********
@Nathan *****
This is true. It is very hard to buy ingredients for Mexican food. I really stocked up on chili powders on my last trip to the US.
Nathan ******
@Marty ********
One year I brought a suitcase full of dried Hatch chillis, Anaheim and Poblanos and were put to very good use making Thai dishes.

My tamales were a flop, the cornmeal wasn't the same as the Harina available in America/Mexico. But the peppers made the filling spot on!
John *******
Casey *******
@Nathan *****
You forgot girl scout cookies and beef jerky.
Bart **************
@Casey ******
why'd you bring dog food over?
Nathan ******
@Casey ******
yes I did forget, the last time I had a GS cookie was decades ago, 😆.

The cookies here are not the best, but there are some excellent bakeries here when you can find them.
Casey *******
The French bakeries are not bad at all. Being back in America now I wish I could have a cheap cup or even bag of Chai Yen... Instead of $10 boba tea that does even taste the same. What privileged problems lol.
Anna *********
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@Casey ******
I love Japanese bread 🍞. There are a few in good vendors at Central.
Thomas *******
@Casey ******
I bring beef jerky every trip. Introduced the gf and kids to it last year and they can't get enough of it.
Martin *********
@Thomas ******
loads of beef jerky brands in Pattaya ( Villa market supermarket ) which imports loads of international products ..
Thomas *******
@Martin ********
I'm up in Tha Bo. Gf and kids had never had it before. When I move here permanently, we will hit up the bigger stores in Udon Thani every month. I have been to Villa in Pattaya and Bangkok before. Nicely stocked stores
Martin *********
@Thomas ******
you can also order many brands on Lazada 😉
Anna *********
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How about Thai beef jerky and sticky rice? They are very good together.
Casey *******
@Thomas ******
You are a good man Pi Charlie Brown, Ka.🙏
Deanna *******
We're from the US, and have lived in Thailand for almost 9 years now! I would recommend leaving/giving away/selling it all. We only brought 3 backpacks, and have not regretted it for one minute.

Everyone we know who has attempted to bring their stuff ended up with so many headaches! A large percentage of rental homes here are already furnished, and it's way more trouble to ask the landlord to remove it than it's worth. Plus, if you decide to move .... another headache.

Everything is cheap here. You can buy what you need.

As for keepsakes, we left them with my daughter in the states. We also scanned many of the photos and have them in online storage for the whole family to enjoy whenever they want.
Mark ***********
Just bear in mind that most of the furniture in rental houses is real junk, so you're probably going to want to replace it anyway if you plan on staying any length of time. For certain you're going to want to replace the beds and the mattresses, as most rental homes come with mattresses that are worth 3,000 baht and are very low end.

In my opinion life is way too short to sleep on a crappy mattress.
Deanna *******
@Mark **********
you're right on that mattress! That is one of the 2 things we bought after we settled. Mattress and a couch
Amber *************
@Deanna ******
we are looking to do the same in about 15 months and have settled with just letting it all go / selling it. I love that you've been there so long. My biggest hurdle has been figuring out Income! Any insight there?
Anna *********
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@Deanna ******
scanning old pictures is a great idea!
Dave **********
@Anna ********
I created digital photos. But when I arrived, I had some of them printed out and framed in beautiful frames for very little money.
Anna *********
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@Dave *********
smart idea!
Deanna *******
@Anna ********
Thanks! It has worked very well for us. You can also take photos of kids' art projects, etc ... and add them. That way they don't get stored away just to fall apart.
Marty *********
Unless it is one of a kind or has sentimental value I wouldn’t ship anything. Anything for day-to-day living you should replace in Thailand. Six years after moving here I shipped some artwork made by my father who died 20 years ago. The shipping was expensive but it has sentimental value.
Dave **********
@Marty ********
Many American women have an entire house completely crammed full of

Things that have sentimental value. :) 😀
Greg *********
Nothing.
Alison *****************
Dont do it let it go
Anna *********
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@Alison ****************
I am trying! Contrary to Buddha’s teaching of non-attachment, I’m very attached to a lot things! If only I could bring my hydrangeas with me! 🥹 I will be more than happy with tropical plants though🙂
Tree *******
@Anna ********
I’m curious if I’ll be able to bring a cutting from a very beloved family plant. Not sure it’s possible since I haven’t checked into it yet. But I hear ya on the attachment thing. My husband and I sold our house in 2019 to move into an RV full time and travel the US. So I’ve already purged a bunch of stuff. But I still have “stuff” I’m having a hard time thinking about letting go.
Anna *********
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@Tree ******
you are living my dream! My husband and I have a small travel trailer and we plan to hit the road and visit as many beautiful places and parks in the US before saying goodbye and heading to Thailand. We will be used to living in small space by then so transitioning to a condo in Thailand would probably be an upgrade 😅
Tree *******
@Anna ********
It’ll help you learn to live more minimally for sure. Having done it for nearly 5 years already we feel like we’re prepared to move abroad and not miss so many “things.” We’ll still keep a small shed on some property we own in Arizona and we can keep some things in there but we’ll see after a year or so what we still want to keep and maybe bring back to Thailand at some point.
Connie **********
@Tree ******
Most likely stopped at the border in case of bringing diseases in. I know you can’t take plants from Thailand to US without all kinds of certifications
Dave **********
Just bring 2 checked bags one carrying donate or sell the rest. Obtw I just bought the 2000 square foot 3 bedroom, 3 bathroom upscale home with 4 air conditioners, 3 water heaters.

Kurt curtains and completely furnished. With newly planted.

Flowers brass and trees in the garden.

And we have a very large garden. More than 75 plants were planted. Total cost $
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0. US That's a brand new houbeautiful. Garden completely furnished, including 55 inch smart TV.

And all the furnishings that you want picked out at local. Shops. Bring the pictures and a few airlooms.Forget the rest everything here is cheap and nice
Zoe ******
I assume that you are married to a Thai?
Dave **********
@Zoe *****
I'm in a committed relationship with a Thai woman ,8 years now. I'm happy to put the papers in her name. But Farang can lease land and own the house in Thailand.
Zoe ******
@Dave *********
I know, but quite risky 😞
Dave **********
@Zoe *****
life is a risk ,every day. Follow your gut and enjoy your life. My take, "life is a darling adventure...or nothing at all :)

Live in the jungle, or die in a zoo's cage.
Willem ************
@Dave *********
where did you buy this and did you take the 10yrs retirement visa?
Dave **********
@Willem ***********
the house is in San Kamphaeng, minutes from Chiangmai. It has mountain views from three sides,and views of rice fields from the front and back with a large banana plantation on one side. New house next door is still for sale. Non immigrant O visa. 8 years now.
Willem ************
Ric ****
Robert **********
I am here now but not live here yet

I am planning on moving here and I have been bringing what I want on the plane.

Everything that I can't take I am giving it to my son.
Robert **********
@Dave *********
What part of Thailand as I am here and foreigners cannot buy housing and land.

But can buy condos
Dave **********
@Robert *********
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Dave **********
@Robert *********
You can Sign a long-term lease on the land and can own the house. Or you can be like me and be married to a Thai citizen who holds the land paper in her name. Condos are for travelers and soulless... 😞
James *********
@Dave *********
"soulless"? What a kahunt u r...
Dave **********
@James ********
I'm a real estate investor, owned 14 single family homes in USA. Own 4 condos here in Chiangmai and 2 houses. Think I have a pretty good grasp on property. AND yes condo rentals are soulless compared to owning your own land and stand alone 😔 house. But as they say " UP TO YOU DUDE! "
Terrence ***********
@Dave *********
I guess he’s saying you’re a douch for calling folks soulless for any reason especially just because they decided to purchase a condo. I knew who you were when you started talking about what you just purchased, a question that no one asked.
Dave **********
@Terrence **********
I didn't call folks solace.I called condos Sol.Ace it doesn't mean someone living in them doesn't have a soul get a grip
James *********
@Dave *********
just keep making shit up if it makes you happy
Dave **********
@James ********
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Dave **********
@James ********
guys like you amaze me. Grow up and wise up. 😌
James *********
Dave **********
@James ********
hurts doesn't it 555 555 555 grow up and put your big boy pants on why don't you.
James *********
@Dave *********
I c u think quite high of yerself there davey
Dave **********
@John *******
jees ohhh please
Anna *********
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@Dave *********
it will be a change for us to move into a condo for sure.
Robert **********
@Dave *********
House in my name

That would be nice as I would be paying for it
Dave **********
@Robert *********
Just a heads up if you decide to sell your house. It usually takes at least 6 months or more. That's just the way their market works. Condos if price correctly will sell almost immediately.
Robert **********
@Dave *********
thanks for your help
Anna *********
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@Dave *********
👍 lucky you! You are going to have lush beautiful gardens.
Michael ***********
@Dave *********
may i ask where ?
Dave **********
@Michael **********
San Kamphaeng, But you can get that kind of deal all over Chaingmai
Paul *********
@Dave *********
that's where the wife if from. Whereabouts are you?
Michael ***********
Todd *********
I shipped absolutely nothing. Thankfully
Gary ******
From what I’ve read any furniture will be taxed at 30%. I would try to bring only some personal items and clothing. You can buy everything in Thailand.
Gary ******
Let me know if you guys move to Phuket.
Anna *********
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@Gary *****
Thank you! We plan to stay in Bangkok for probably 6 months to a year before moving to Hua Hin.
Laurie *****
@Anna ********
I'm moving to Thailand in 2yrs! Can't wait! I will be there for a month in April
Anna *********
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@Laurie ****
wow! You will be there during the most festive time in Thailand! Enjoy and stay safe. 😀
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