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What is the cheapest option for NON-O visa renewal in Pattaya?

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Oct 7, 2024
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Stevie ********
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What is the lowest price for non o renewal in Pattaya 12500bht cheapest I've found does anyone know cheaper?? I need a bank cert with this. I should've said this at the beginning. But it is in the comments later.
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The lowest price found for renewing a Non-O visa in Pattaya is 12,500 baht. However, comments suggest that the national rate for a Non-O visa renewal at any immigration office is only 1,900 baht, provided certain financial conditions are met, such as having funds in a Thai bank account. There is discussion on agent fees, documentation needed, including a bank certificate, and the tax implications of transferring funds into Thailand, highlighting legal responsibilities for expats. Overall, it's encouraged to handle the process independently or seek low-cost local assistance.
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John **********
The exchange rate isn't too bad at the moment, it's only down about 3 baht against the pound from a 5 year peak. If you work it out you need just over 18k gbp so you only save around 35k baht for the privilege of having an iffy stamp in your passport
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Mark *********
Free, go to the immigration office in your area. there will be people called volunteers that will step you through every step of the form and what forms you need to have. in addition there will be an office there that can take pictures and make photocopies for you at very reasonable fees.
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Nongnuch ********
The following are estimates. Agent’s fees differ a bit

*** 2000.- THB for the initial 90-days Non-O visa, and 1900.- THB for the 12-months extension of stay, if you use your own 800.000.-THB and do everything by yourself, plus 1000.- THB for a single re-entry permit

*** around 9500.- and 12.500.- THB if you use your own 800.000.- THB in a Thai bank account, and use an agent service. It should include a single re-entry permit

*** around 30.000.- THB to 40.000.- THB, for the initial 90-days visa and the initial 12-months extension, using an agent service, without own funds

*** from 12.000.- THB to 15.000.- THB for renewals of the yearly 12-months extension, using an agent, without own funds
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Paul **********
@Nongnuch *******
 hi I hope you don't mind I've sent you a DM
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Sylvia ********
That's cheap average fee is 14,000 upwards, but it includes taxi nothing ways and passport delivered next day to the door
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Ian ********
Do it yourself, very easy to do. 1900Baht
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Dieter *******
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not bad. How much to get the one year retirement extension afterwards? (without any financial obligations?)
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Sylvia ********
@Dieter ******
 this is the annual fee to renew. But first time expensive
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Dieter *******
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 Oh, but that's a good price. (If none financial obligations have to be provided)
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Peter *******
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is the lowest I've found, others charge more for nothing
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John *********
1900 any immigration office
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Andy ************
1900 baht is the national rate
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Pertti *************
1900฿ if you have assets at account
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Stevie ********
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@Pertti ************
 thanks but did you miss the part when I said I'm not changing my money at this rate??
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Henrik *****
Then just stay away from Thailand.
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Stevie ********
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@Henrik ****
 who was your statement to stay away from Thailand intended for??
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Robby ************
@Stevie *******
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Tony ********
@Stevie *******
 but technically your prepared to owe the government upto 30% of it in tax if its paid into your account? While loans aren't taxable, it can only be classed as a loan if it has documentation detailing a reypayment plan and interest rate, Not saying you"ll pay it, just that technically its owed, and cant have tax credited off from your home country.
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Jonnie *******
@Tony *******
 regardless whether he’s extending a non O, as I understand it depends how many days he’s in the country before he’s liable for tax
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Tony ********
@Jonnie ******
 not for earnings within Thailand thats from day 1 i believe. If it was from abroad and receiver wasnt tax resident, then correct its not taxable.
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Jonnie *******
@Tony *******
 he didn’t say anything about a work permit only a non O, so I gather he isn’t planning on working in thailand unless I’ve missed something
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Tony ********
@Jonnie ******
 earnings doesn't mean 'work' in this respect. Its an increase in your financial standing.
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Jim ********
@Jonnie ******
 If an agent pays 800k into a bank account to effect the extension, the account holder would most probably have to pay tax on that 800k unless he can show tax has already been paid on it
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@Jim *******
 yes tax on bank interest made I’d imagine ? I don’t know the ins and outs of that, I’ve no probs with tax on interest in a Thai bank account, but was referring to the tax on the money brought into the country, as in my situation been here 16 years but always stay less than 180 days per year due to my work commitments, and always follow the rule of not bringing in funds earned in same year just to be sure.
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Jim ********
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 The last bit of bringing in funds the following year is the big which has changed. This loophole no longer exists from January 1st this year. Now all remittances to Thailand are assessable (doesn't necessarily mean they are taxed, as this depends mainly on tax already paid on the amounts remitted). For most countries with a DTA pension payments are not taxable in Thailand. I mentioned the 800k remittance for a retirement visa, and people might have to show the source of this 800k and whether tax has already been paid. Although DTAs specifically mention pensions, they do not appear to cover lump sum superannuation or severance payments
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 so what you’re effectively saying is that anyone with funds brought into thailand regardless of whether they have stayed in thailand for less than 180 days in the tax year will be required to file a tax return ?
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Jim ********
@Jonnie ******
 I didn't say that. To be classified as a "tax resident" of Thailand the stipulation is 180 days between January 1st and December 31st. Of course, some people may also retain tax residency of another country, and if a DTA exists between those two countries it will probably contain a "test" to determine which country's tax regime will prevail. Being classified as a tax resident does not necessarily entail completion of a tax return. For expats remitting only pension payments, a tax return is not necessary as there is no tax payable in Thailand on those pensions
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Pete *******
@Jim *******
 Utter nonsense, as an example a UK passport holder remitting private, company or state pension will be subject to Thai tax on the remittance above minimum thresholds .
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Jim ********
@Pete ******
 Actually yes, you're right. For some reason the UK/Thailand DTA doesn't mention pensions! On the other hand, pensions from Australia, NZ and USA (amongst others) are not taxable in Thailand. Don't know why the UK sold its citizens out over this, but that's life!
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Jonnie *******
@Jim *******
 my initial reply mentioned it depends on how many days he is in the country has a bearing on whether he would be liable for tax, was in response to one of the comments who said he was liable for up to 30% tax
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Jim ********
@Jonnie ******
 180 days makes a person a "tax resident" which is different to "liable for tax"
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Jonnie *******
I thought it was over 180 days
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Stevie ********
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@Jim *******
 is that an educated response on what you know to be true. Or are you full of chang coming back from soi bakuo?
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Andy *********
@Stevie *******
 when I went to my local tax office to investigate what is required for this year they did say a 12 month statement showing income would be required to calculate the tax owed - not just submitting a tax form - it is worth considering 🤷‍♂️
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Jim ********
@Stevie *******
 I'm retired accountant so it's a reasonable assumption that with the revision to tax rules, whereas pensions from other countries are exempt taxation, unexplained lump sums are possibly not unless you can show it's a pension lump sum. Banks are required to report transactions above 50,000 baht to the Thailand Revenue, so you might have to explain the source of the 800,000 and whether tax has already been paid on it. It's something that might have to be considered. There's no reason to turn to insults
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John **********
@Jim *******
 not all pensions are exempt
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Jim ********
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 That's what I said. UK pensions for some reason missed the cut. Very sad for UK expats in Thailand
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John **********
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 not just uk pensions
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Jim ********
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 I'm sure there's a lot more countries. All I know of is Australia, NZ and USA. These can't be taxed in Thailand. There's 195 countries in the world! 😂
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John **********
@Jim *******
 what you say is true for some pensions but others depend on maintaining residency of wherever the money comes from
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Jim ********
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 Which is easy enough
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John **********
@Jim *******
 although not necessarily beneficial I'd assume not knowing the 3 tax regimes you quote. It's certainly beneficial in the case of the UK
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Stevie ********
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 sorry mate are you having a stroke? Really do you need help? 😱😱
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Gary **********
1,900 all day long
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Dennis *********
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seems pretty for not having funds.
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Stevie ********
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@Dennis ********
 I know just thought I'd put it out there in case someone else knew better. No way am I changing my money at this rate 🤬
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Mitch *****
@Stevie *******
 good price for an agent especially if they do the funds in your account and it includes multi entry and TM30.
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Michael ********
1900 any immigration office
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@Michael *******
 need the
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0 in bank acc
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Michael ********
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 yes but you didnt specify you wanted an agent
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Pete *******
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 agree 1900 baht
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