What are the rules for 90-day reporting for COVID tourist visa holders in Thailand?

Jul 7, 2021
3 years ago
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
I'm on a covid/tourist visa since 15th March (before that, I had an ED visa). Now I'm at immigration and they say I still have to do a 90 days reporting and want to charge me 2k Baht for not having done a 90 days reporting (which I thought is just neccarssary with the longterm visas; as I'm at immigration every 60 days anyways, so I really don't get it 🤷🏼‍♀️ plus it's the first time I'm hearing of that.) Anyone knows anything about that? I'm in Koh Phangan now and in Samui they never asked/said anything about it. Thank you
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A user currently holding a COVID-related tourist visa in Thailand is confused about the 90-day reporting requirement, as immigration demands it despite her frequent visits every 60 days for visa extensions. Other comments suggest that enforcement varies by location and that those on extensions must comply, paralleling experiences with different immigration offices. Users debate the necessity and procedural specifics regarding the 90-day reporting, providing insights into their personal experiences.
Andi **********
How does a notification of stay look like in the passport?

I don't see the difference between the 90day report-stamp and the covid-extension-stamp. Thanks.
Nigel *********
@Andi *********
looks a little bit like this. When you apply for your first extension you do your first 90 report. Some places they do it same time, some offices have different desk. Your next report date is on the top left.
Petra ************
interesting

I have never got this paper..
Andi **********
Bobby ********
Andi On Tour. There's no 90-day stamp in your passport. It's a different area of immigration. It's the left hand! The right hand takes the 2000 baht fine! 🤣🤣🤣
Andi **********
@Bobby *******
I see...
Tod *********
you totally DO have to do 90 day reporting and you're going to get a 2000baht failure to file fine when you go do it AND they are not gonna give you another covid extension until you pay the fine and file a 90 day report.

It's because you USED to do 90 day reporting on the ED visa (before you cancelled it and went to a covid extension) you should have just kept doing them :)
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Tod ********
when I did my last 90 day reporting (Dec 2020) I got this paper that said I have to do it again in March - I did go to immigration in March, to change to a tourist visa (also confirming my address). No one at immigration ever said anything about that before, and it has been more then 90 days since December. I just absolutely don't get it, why they tell me know and no one (in Samui) ever cared about that before.
Tod *********
@Anna *************
you didn't "change to a tourist visa" :O because you BUY a tourist visa from a thai consulate in another country BEFORE you come here. You can't get a tourist visa inside the country. What you did was cancel your current ED visa extension and then you went on a 60 day covid extension.

AND

the people that did that aren't the people you file a 90 day report with, SO that you didn't do what the paper in your passport said to do is pretty much on you
Garrett ***********
@Tod ********
What are you talking sbout?
Tod *********
@Garrett **********
I'm trying to say that IF you were on an extension type that required 90 day reporting BEFORE you cancelled it and went to milking the covid extensions you STILL file 90 day reports at MOST offices.

AND I was trying to point out that the people who cancel the extensions and/or issue the covid extensions at most offices are NOT the people who you file 90 day reports with. SO that they didn't say anything doesn't mean you didn't have to do it, only that it's not their job to make sure you did :)

I'll bow out now, Good luck to one and all.
Nigel *********
@Anna *************
Did you actually get a tourist visa when you went to immigration in March? Didn't know you could get a TV in country. Everyday's a school day hey
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
Nigel Ponsonby Smallpiece well, not a regular tourist visa like back in the days (pre-covid), but the "not being able to travel due to covid 60 days extension visa" - I don't know the official name, but basically the visa most people are on 🤷🏼‍♀️
Nigel *********
@Anna *************
Thank you for clarifying that. So, as you're on an extension of stay, you do 90 day reports. Samui doesn't enforce it, KPNG does. I wrote you a longer reply further up to try and assist you.
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Nigel *********************
I read it, of course 😌 and I appreciate all you guys input!

But does that mean, if I go to Samui next time (if the situation with the extension is still the same), I don't have to pay the "90days overstay fee"?
Nigel *********
@Anna *************
I don't think I understand. So, right now, you're in KPNG you require a 60 day Covid extension (1900thb) but you can't get it because you need to clear your 2000thb fine for failing to submit the 90 day report. Is that right?
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Nigel *********************
no - I did get the covid extension (until mid September), while handing me back my passport (with the stamp inside) the lady said, I also have to do the 90 days reporting.
Nigel *********
@Anna *************
so they didn't charge you the 2000thb fine in the end?
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Nigel *********************
well, I didn't pay it (yet). I didn't have that amount of money with me and they were about to close. He said I can pay it later. Plus I wanted to do some research first.
Paolo ************
crazy! that employee is out of his mind, I have been repeating the 60 day covid extension since last year and no one asked me to do the 90 day report, if you are there at immigration every 60 days what sense would it make?
Nigel *********
@Paolo ***********
that's very interesting. Do you use KPNG immigration for your 60 day Covid Extensions?
Paolo ************
@Nigel *********************
no no luckily, in that office there's that only employee completely out of the brain, if you show up every 2 months for a new visa it's completely crazy to request the 90-day report
Nigel *********
@Paolo ***********
but she's not getting a new visa, she's getting an extension of stay, therefore, as the op is going to remain in the country beyond 90 days, she is required to submit her location (every 90 days). The application fôr a 60 day extension due to being unable to travel and the 90 day report are separate entities. Does it make sense? Irrelevant. Does every immigration persue/enforce this? Relevant.
Paolo ************
@Nigel *********************
you can call it extension that it makes no difference because when you come to immigration every 60 days to renew it you must also report your address
Nigel *********
@Paolo ***********
What I call it is irrelevant. Once somebody moves from tourist visa or visa exemption, on to the Extension of Stay based on being unable to travel, then you fall under the 90 day reporting rule. The 60 day Covid Extensions and the 90 day reporting are different trains on different tracks. They are not the same entity. Some Immigration offices are enforcing this (like KPNG, others are not.
Paolo ************
@Nigel *********************
certainly they are two different trains. The 90 days report applies to those extensions longer than 90 days. if I have an extension of 60 days in which I have already reported my address every time, what sense does it make to request an additional separate 90 days report? Only someone out of brain can ask for it
Andy **********
What would Jesus do?
Nigel *********
@Andy *********
not completely sure mate, but the way things are going, getting nailad to a cross sounds like he got off lightly.
Bobby ********
Every immigration office enforces its own rules. Strictly speaking, once you've been in the country for 90 days you need to report. Can understand the question if you're "reporting" every 60 days, but it's no different to the TM30. I've had to do a TM30 on the same day as a 90-day report, even though effectively they're doing the same thing. It's Thailand, and we love all its idiosyncrasies don't we?
Garrett ***********
@Bobby *******
You don't do 90 day reports on a covid extension, period. There is no "up to immigration office." 90 day reports are for people who's visas or extensions are longer than 90 days.
Brandon ************
@Garrett **********
literally every single rule is up the office you're dealing with. You can't argue with them because they make the rules. It's why there's a disclaimer on pretty much all advice given here that it depends on the office you are using, and that's always the first thing we try to get clarification on when someone posts a question. If the office you go to days you have to do 90 report, your options are to pay the fine and then do what you went there to do, or go back to the office that told you it's not required.
Bobby ********
Garrett Greenwald. And yet some immigration offices are asking for it, such as the OP. It's well-known that immigration offices make up their own rules. I can't agree with you, otherwise we'd both be wrong.
Nigel *********
@Bobby *******
they don't make them up, they interpret them differently.
Bobby ********
Nigel Ponsonby Smallpiece. I wouldn't suggest they make them up, I said they enforce their own rules. I do believe for the covid extension, they don't actually have a handbook. Some offices put applications "under consideration" whilst others just give the 60-day stamp straight off. Which is correct? For STV holders, there's some bothersome news that Phuket are telling people the STV cannot be extended past September 30 (which is totally incorrect), whilst others have already given extensions past that date. As you say, it's "interpretation" and it's a pity there isn't a central advisory point to clarify matters. As Brandon has said before you cannot argue with them, and even a supervisor will support their staff, because that's how they do it.
Nigel *********
@Bobby *******
Correction... you didn't say they make them up.. someone else said that... apologies. Its the way the different Offices interpret the law that causes issues.
Garrett ***********
Absolutely don't do 90 dat reports on the covid unable to travel extensions. Ask to speak to a supervisor.
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
A little update: I talked to the "boss man" who was no help at all, I told him I just wanna understand, but he didn't care. Then two of my former ED visa classmates came, they have the exact same visa history (ED visa in Trang, change to 60 days covid tourist visa and all extensions after that in Samui). No one mentioned/asked them for any 90 days reporting, when they picked up their stamped passport. Only difference: employee #1 handed them back their passport (just asked for the names, to confirm its their passport), I got mine back from employee #2, who then started the whole "you need to do 90day reporting" situation.

So it is random - not even depending on the Immigration office, but the employee.
Nigel *********
@An**
You're not on a [Covid tourist visa]. The instrument that allows you to stay in thailand is [An extension of stay based on not being unable to travel due to Covid-19] (Covid Extension)

The key phrase there is EXTENSION OF STAY {not shouting, just highlighting}

For foreigners staying in Thailand for a period longer than 90 consecutive days holding a Non-Immigrant Visa or Extension of Stay, you are required by Thai Immigration to report the present address every 90 days. Source =
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.(not an official gov site but one that is reasonably accurate most of the time)
@Gar****
quite rightly states that doing a 90 day report doesn't make sense if you have to visit every 60 days to apply for a further extension. Of course it doesn't make sense, but it's the law, so we can try and comply or it's going to keep costing us 2000thb every time we don't. People have to accept that the 90 day reporting requirement and the consecutive 60 day extensions are different entities. In fact, If you're receiving an extension every 60 days, you can't do your 90 day report at the same time. you'll be at least 15 days too early (can do 90 day report 15 days before or up to 7 days after due date).

The Covid Extension is a temporary measure that will be here 'till the end of the month, end of year or whenever....who knows. The extension of stay is a permanent fixture at least for now and I don't see the Thai gov dissolving this law when they may be concentrating on other matters.
Garrett ***********
@Ni***
There's no such thing as a covid tourist visa.
Nigel *********
@Gar****
That is correct. It is an Extension of stay based on being unable to travel due to Covid-19
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Nigel *********************
🤯 it's just super confusing..
Nigel *********
@Garrett **********
you have to do 90 day reports if you've been in Thailand over 90 days. That's the law. The "covid extension" is a temporary measure that doesn't change the requirement to report every 90days. Samui immigration is probably the most accommodating immigration office that I have had experience with.
Garrett ***********
@Ni***
Wrong. You have to do 90 day reports if you're on a visa that lasts longer than 90 days.
Nigel *********
@Garrett **********
that is not correct. Sorry.
Anna **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Garrett **********
yeah, I mean it sounds fishy af.
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