What are the reasonable costs for hiring a live-in maid and gardener in Chiang Mai?

@Lee **********

Try reading the thread where people post real life pay and compare them to your figures. You are hilariously wrong.

@Tulip *******

I think you need to read, they are not my figures, they come from thailand not me! Stop with the stupid comments and relate to facts.

@Lee **********

better than most employers.

@Steve *****

true!

@Martin ********

Yep I know but I was presuming you got her the night before (plus they don't get up until the afternoon!)

@Garry *******

It certainly does if you pay well and you've done your homework, references etc. Same as in any country on this planet! But one thing you can be sure of, pay crap money, you'll get a crap job

@Henning *********

It was not. Which is why I commented.

@Vin ********

thanks for letting me know , I'll try better in the future. English is only my third language.

@Henning *********

Good on you brada! Most can't speak one. You are smarter than most!

@Tim ********

by that rationale they would feel even luckier if they were offered more, if an employee is offered better wages do you think there is often loyalty here in these low paying jobs?

@Jonathan *******

I think people are the same the world over, Jonathan. I'm sure loyalty is as available here as anywhere else. Why do you think it might not be?

@Tim ********

I didn’t say it might not be, there is nothing to read between my lines 555. I know there is not as I know the whole world is not the same.

@Jonathan *******

no, in the US you elect people like Trump, so I get your point

@Tim ********

guess you’re out of asinine things to say that you have to go there 😍

@Andrew ******

Yep Samui probably is a bit higher though Hua Hin isn't known for being cheap! Yes twice a week, don't need him more than that and does a really good job. If the heavens open, and the rain can make your pool look crap in hours, he comes around to add chemicals to head it off at no extra charge

@Jeff ******

thanks, I’m going to ask around what the going rate is.🙏🏻

@JD ******

that's a very unspecific measure of ......ANYTHING really. 280 pages of what? Any picture pages ? Novel about what ? Published by who ? Paperback sales figures since release ? Nominated for the International Booker Prize award ? The Pulitzer award ? Translated into how many languages ? But how much you pay your maid ?

@JD ******

pretty sure you are having a stroke- go outside and flag down help.

@Francis ********

I have been told factories near BKK will pay 250 a day while new employees are in their 3 mo "evaluation" period , after which they are let go and replaced by new recruits.

@Jorge ***

you really believe anything personally I had my travel agency and I know very well that at the minimum wage we can't find anyone. My friends who have businesses and not small ones have to pay much more than the minimum wage for keep their staff. so shame on those who pay 250 no wonder some farangs are calledขี้เหนียวยิ่งกว่าหมา Stingier than a dog a scheapstake

@Francis ********

What does that mean when translated to English?

@Jorge ***

You still are not comprehending.

You listed off costs, etc compared to wages.

BUT ... the op is wanting a live in.... so wages plus a place to live, utilities, etc are included.

Not they have their own place. 🙄

@Vin ********

ah, ok. I listed a generic run of the mill example. My bad.

So we subtract the rent, food, transportation, and utilities from the min wage,

10,800 - 8,900 = 1,900 THB, <$55...

Thank you for the observation. It looks like a great deal to have live-in assistace. I'll propose this to my next door neighbor but with the generous offer of three times 1,900, or 6k THB.

@Bruce ********

With the greatest respect.. what you think and what you choose to do is entirely up to you.. your choices and your decisions are not binding on the rest of society.. everyone that hires help of any form must do what is right for them at the time.. that might not be what you consider to be right of course.. but provided it does not breach any laws of the land then it is quite acceptable.. in the end the market is driven by supply and demand.. and as you rightly point out.. if an employee is unhappy with the terms of engagement they are free to look for a new employer.. just as the employer is free to replace them should they be dissatisfied.. there is no 'one size fits all' solution here.. and employees may move on for many reasons not just grievances over pay.. in the end the employer has to weigh up the risk of losing them if not managed properly.. and factor that into their decision making.. it's horses for courses as they say!

@Lone *********

You've got me thinking now....

Andy Bellamy and yes I do live here. I own a condo at the Ramada Sukhumvit 48. Right near BTS On Nut. What do you own here?

@Andy ********

He understands it perfectly and you've never run a thai business. I've employed many staff in the home and business here and loyalty is the toughest thing to buy. Treat them well they'll stay, give them the bare minimum and you will forever be looking for staff and the ones you get will do a crap job until they find a nicer person.

@Jeff ******

who are you ? his spokesman ? - you know what he thinks and you know what I have or haven’t done - you should get on stage as a clairvoyant 😂

@Andy ********

this person said exactly what I was thinking.

@Andy ********

You understand how forums work right?

@Bobby ********

60 baht an hour? Fuckkkkk it's getting worse!

@Jeff ******

fuck you

@Bobby ********

did you hold your handbag up when you said that 😁

@Jeff ******

yep

@Bobby ********

same same. She cannot even pay her rent with that so what kind of employer are u... Fucked up stingy one.. 8 dollars per day... unbelievable..

@Niko **********

like I said. Fuck you

@Bobby ********

here in Finland your ass would be in jail already for that 😄

@Bobby ********

minimum wage in Thailand is little bit over 10$/day u sick yankee slave driver

@Niko **********

you are a shit head

@Bobby ********

did you paid 8$ a day to your wife aswell to marry you in Sin City of Pattaya?

Ok. Enough.. sorry

But seriously.. did u?

@Niko **********

they are very happy here

@Bobby ********

yeah 100%, I would be also with 8$/day instead of minimum 10$/day. They propably get also 6days (minimum) of paid holidays in a year and so on..

@Niko **********

you sure do worry about about my business you dick head

@Bobby ********

I do when it comes to things like this. Using people like that is just fucked up bro. I hope u understand, but u propably dont

@Bobby ********

I know. So are you Scrooge

@Niko **********

you think so shit head

@Bobby ********

why dont u pay a little bit more to your employees just wondering? Imo thats just wrong but who Im I to judge. If they are happy then its propably ok, but I know that they arent...

@Niko **********

I am not in Finland

@Mark *******

I would think that if you ratioed the difference you would end up with less disposable income, if only from my own experience.

@Bruce **********

I guess the end point is a lack of disposable income. Imho a fairer balance will be an inevitable outcome in reaction to what can be taken as an imperialist attitude. No offence meant there, just reading writing on walls, so to speak. I reckon there could be a smooth change

@Jon *****

your overthinking it

@Darlene ********

If paying her an extra pound or dollar a day pushes him over the breadline, he's sailing too close to the wind!

@Ally ***********

said the person lecturing, judging and rushing to criticize … just saying :)

@Jonathan *******

Not at all.. my comment was aimed at everyone that participates in these forums.. hence the use of the word 'people'.. unfortunately you rushed to a judgement to criticise me.. enuff said!

@Ally ***********

You are at least 30 years too old to use toe curlingly crass statements like 'enuff said' - and even then you got it wrong!

@Jeff ******

So says the self appointed guru of crassness.. criticising other people for holding a different opinion seems to have become a regular hobby for some people.. and strangely every such 'critic' believes their voice is the most knowledgeable and most righteous.. they are incapable of offering an opinion without throwing insults at someone.. but they fail to recognise that every 'normal' person that reads their venomous post/s will instantly dismiss them as a trumped up tw@t with nothing meaningful to contribute.. being civil costs nothing and should be everyone's default choice when beginning a dialogue.. indeed it takes a lot more effort to be disrespectful.. yet it seems to come naturally to some.. a very sad indictment on the world we now live in!

@Ally ***********

lolol brilliant - 'trumped up twat' is as civil as it gets I guess. Now get nanny to put that dummy back in whilst the adults pick up your toys 🤣

@Jeff ******

More sarcasm.. more righteousness.. completely proves my point.. thank you 🙏

@Ally ***********

but it was YOU who said trumped up twat right? You remember that right? You appear to be struggling with this

@Jeff ******

My comment was not personal.. i simply stated that people reading such sarcastic critique would inevitably determine the aggressor to be such a person.. it was a collective observation.. unlike your own attacks on several contributors which are indeed very personal.. you need to give your head a serious wobble before spouting off my friend!

@Ally ***********

It's okay. The sactimonious "tw@t" came in flailing about, instantly picking a fight with three different people. And like too many of the brain-dead ne'er-do-wells wasting away his days on a bar stool with a local hag on the stool next to him hoping he'll buy her a drink, he won't. He'll self-righteously spend other people's money for them for the cheap thrill he gets from finger-pointing in a public forum, but it's all fantasy. "Tw@t" is the type who should be the last person touching anybody''s money. Including his own. No wonder the bar hag is the only one who will give him any attention. If she only knew he's probaby the least generous, most hypocritical of all the denenates starting early in the entire bar.

@Ally ***********

I haven't attacked anyone, perhaps I need to amend stuff for the more fragile? Still I'm yet to call anyone a 'twat' though, I mean who would think that was personal?!

@Ally ***********

add trying to silence others after you get in the last word … enough said?

@Darlene ********

and thankfully there is always one that wants to do the right thing for other humans less well off than them. Try it one day whilst counting your baht, it's liberating.

@Jeff ******

what would you know about liberating...hiding behind a fake account...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Darlene ********

If they have enough money to hire a maid they have enough money to pay an extra $5,000 baht a month. If she didn't have this job someone else would hire her pretty quickly.

@Bruce ********

then there isn't a problem right, she can find another job..simple 🙄🤣

@Jonathan *******

It says nothing, but your problems with someone treating someone else well speaks volumes!

@Jeff ******

it says they if don't know enough about Thailand to even refer to the local currency, which is what one gets payed in here, then they don't understand the economics of the country.

@Jonathan *******

Seriously? Perhaps some people are smart enough to instantly convert it into their heads! It's 'paid'

@Jeff ******

Seriously? I'm sure they figured out how to convert (calculator, exchange app, ask their mommy every time etc) when needed or should if they are giving out advice on a Thailand page. What is 'paid'?

@Jonathan *******

Not really, it only takes my brain a nano second to round any dollar/pound quote up to the nearest baht

@Jeff ******

so you're not really serious? You're soooo smarttttt but can't even answer my question.

@Jonathan *******

You didn't ask me a question, a question is denoted by a '?' want to try again ?

"so you're not really serious? "

@Jonathan *******

About what?- why is that in speech quotes? who are you quoting? look, get an adult to help you construct some meaningful sentences and then write down what they tell you

@Jeff ******

so obvious you troll keeps deleting your comments that I replied to , blocking your sorry ass

@David ********

and they give it to their gang master, who quickly smokes it and gambles it online. So think again, before pulling moves like that. Also that adds to inflation

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@Mark *******

"live in" so with accommodation included. Although, if I could find a lady that did all I wanted, as I wanted, when I wanted, she could be worth 30k/month (with deduction for accommodation).. but nobody wants to work, ok be poor.. Of those that do, most don't want to drive "up the mountain" of a hill, 170m above sea-level, ok be poor. Those few that start work don't see the end of day 1 due to a gross misconduct. Ok, be poor. Those that finish day 1, never come back.

@Dan *******

What gibberish are you talking....?

@Mark *******

maid

@Conny *********

You're living in the past, or telling yourself that to make yourself feel better. the average thai salary across all bands is now 15,410baht. Plus 13 bank holidays.

@Jeff ******

of course is the average salary higher than what most Thais earn. Do check on mean instead of average...

@Kev ********

he was being a smartarse

@Kev ********

he said in a few years so by then figures would be fair

@Peter ********

even in a few years (say 5 years) taking the low Thai inflation figures into account do you think income will quadruple in that time?

@Kev ********

low inflation? I guess when math was reached in school you have been absent 😁 close to 10%+/year for the real costs, gas, rent, electric and food

@Kev ********

no but the falang asking question will

@Peter ********

I don't think the general westerners salary will quadruple in 5 years. Say currently a nurse gets £35k/ year. Do you really think the salary will be up to £140k/ year? Great expectations Peter.

@Robert ********

Charlie lol 😆

@Roy ********

Charlie lol 😆

@Garrett **********

it's called minimalism. ☺️

@Mi***

Minimalism is a fantastic way of living 👍