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Is a short communicative Thai language course at Chiangmai University accepted for a soft power DTV at the Hanoi embassy?

Alma ***************
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Just inquired about communicative Thai language course at Chiangmai Univ..it's for 3 weeks only..will it be accepted under soft power dtv in Hanoi embassy..?
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The consensus among community members suggests that a 3-week communicative Thai language course at Chiang Mai University will not be accepted for the soft power DTV visa at the Hanoi embassy, as language courses are not included in the eligible categories for this visa type.
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Tod *********
Tod *********
and what did the Chiang Mai University say as far as offering documentation that meets the requirements to get a FIVE year DTV for a 3 week course?
James ********
James ********
Nope 👎
Wannikea *********
Wannikea *********
Hey, almost everyone here, who have been advising for 4.5 months solid on an hourly basis says No. So, take your chances.
Elías ********
Elías ********
No, language is not elegible for the DTV.
George *********
George *********
@Elías *******
may be correct now, but wasn't back in the early days of the visa
Pete *******
Pete *******
@Elías *******
say that to the person who reported they received a DTV based on Thai language course.
James ********
James ********
@Pete ******
a single report
Elías ********
Elías ********
@Pete ******
the Embassy can grant the visa to anybody they want, under any premises, I'm not arguing that. But the written rules are clear. I wouldn't bother to try, or at least I'd ask beforehand to the Embassy I'm applying at if that's even possible. Remember that unlike offline applications, for online ones, once you apply and pay, there are no refunds no matter what.
George *********
George *********
@Alma **************
Yes, that's the original wording, and based on short term educational course, that's how I got the visa...
Wannikea *********
Wannikea *********
@Alma **************
that is a commercial site, not any type of official government site.
James ********
James ********
A mistake by you to try... but it's only a 10,000 Thai baht loss to gamble on getting the DTV with a 3 months language course. The Thai Embassy or Consulate may deny the DTV but issue you a tourist visa which gives you up to 90 days stay in Thailand. Good Luck 🍀
James ********
James ********
@Elías *******
correct ✅ it's a lawyer in Bangkok
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
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@Henrik ****
thanks..
Henrik *****
Henrik *****
@Alma **************
DO NOT TRUST that website it is not a real Thai Governmental Embassy, but a privat compagny deceiving people to believe they are an Embassy.

THAIEMBASSY. COM SHOULD NEVER BE TRUSTED, has nothing to do with a official Thailand Embassy
Elías ********
Elías ********
@Alma **************
you need to visit the official Thai Embassy in Hanoi website, check the email address and send them an email.
Elías ********
Elías ********
@Alma **************
this is a private website, not related with any embassy or Thai government institution, so I'd take with a grain of salt the information written there.
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
OP
@Elías *******
I wonder how we can ask Hanoi embassy if Thai language is acceptable ?
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
OP
@Elías *******
found this on thaiembassy site..
Elías ********
Elías ********
Also, I don't know if that's the same or a different person, but I read here about somebody who got it trhu a university course, but if I recall well, it was something culture/arts related, not language. (Might be a different person, tho).
Helen ********
Helen ********
Unlikely, education is not listed under the soft power categories of the DTV. Someone had reported they were successful at the London embassy but other have since reported they were denied.
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
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@Helen *******
thanks..we are going to register for a 3 months course at a language school ..then that should.work..
Jad *********
Jad *********
@Alma **************
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For your information about yoga couse - Ed visa and DTV visa
Helen ********
Helen ********
@Alma **************
as John and John have mentioned language doesn't show under soft power. 1 person posted about being successful but several posted about being denied. It clearly states what qualifies under soft power so your best idea is to pursue a category that has proven success like Muay Thai with a gym that has a proven track record, several who post in the group regularly. Either that or pay an agent to help you as it really seems you are getting confused and starting to consider a risky option.
John **********
John **********
@Alma **************
highly unlikely. Check with the school and see what they say as they need to provide documentation but it's what an ED visa is for so be careful
George *********
George *********
@John ******
maybe, but the one I saw and worked on was the same as the originator has posted !
John *******
John *******
@George ********
The London embassy still has their post up from July 15
George *********
George *********
@John ******
Found it from another post on here by the originator..." short term educational course" that was on the original schedule, and based on that, that's how I got the DTV
George *********
George *********
@John ******
The wording has changed now compared to back in July when it was first announced. I can't find my original copy unfortunately, but it definitely had reference to education or something that related to learning the language...otherwise I wouldn't have applied that way...
James ********
James ********
William Echols posted:

"I was just approved for my DTV and am elated. I submitted my documents to the Washington DC Embassy electronically on October 17 in the afternoon, so 9 business days in total.

I used my drivers license as proof of residence, used a selfie I took on my phone for the picture (against a white wall). Also took picture of my passport with my phone.

I used an American Express savings account statement showing one month of activity ending on October 6 for proof of funds.

I entered a friend’s condo address and reception I’ll initially stay at as my residence until I get my own place, and entered the flight number for the last leg of my trip to Bangkok.

I was not asked for any additional information.

I went the soft power route, booking a two-week cooking course through the Bangkok Thai Cooking Academy. I paid them for the cooking course on October 16 via PayPal and received all of the necessary documents for my visa application the following day.

They also said it was fine if you want to split their 4-week course into two parts, and taking the second leg of classes at your convenience.

The director of admissions, Tanawan Malan, is extremely helpful and anyone interested in taking courses at the school, located in On Nut, can reach them here:

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All in all, it was a pretty seemless process that maybe took 2-3 hours (from paying the cooking school to getting the documents onto my computer to filling out the forms.) Your mileage may vary.

I cannot really see the point of using an agent if you’re doing things above board."

Good luck everyone!

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James ********
James ********
James ********
James ********
@Alma **************
there's NO THAI LANGUAGE COURSE to get the DTV visa. Try a Cooking school course. There are several that have been successful in getting the DTV visa for its students in Bangkok and Chiang Mai.
James ********
James ********
@John ******
wise advice ✅
James ********
James ********
John *******
John *******
@David *******
- No, I agree it is not allowed. Just suggested, that if one doesn’t trust the advice of this group, then go right to the decision maker, the embassy you plan to apply to, to get the answer. I know they will 99.99% likely say no, but that is the only way I believe to get this poster to believe, as she posted multiple times, that she will do this, even when everyone else says it won’t work
David ********
David ********
@John ******
it's not allowed under DTV. Where does it say it is. You believe one person who posted here otr the many who are saying it's not. I have never seen it printed anywhere a language course is accepted. You are going to apply and lose your money. Language course is Ed visa not DTV
John *******
John *******
@Alma **************
What embassy will you apply via? The best option is to reach out to that embassy, as each one has different rules/requirements.
John **********
John **********
@Alma **************
I'm sure the owner of the language school would be more than happy for you to sign up for a course, but whether that would qualify you for a DTV is questionable
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
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@John *********
so meaning the owner of the language institute is also not so well informed. Oh well! Thanks..
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
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@John ******
not specifically Thai language but educational course..thinking Thai language is more thai culture than just any educational training..?
John **********
John **********
@Alma **************
exactly. Most people who have applied using a Thai language school have been told to get themselves an ED visa
John *******
John *******
@Alma **************
where do you see language on the list?
John *******
John *******
@Alma **************
- Everyone keeps telling you that it is most likely not included. However, regulations vary by embassy/consulate. Which embassy will you apply through? It is a good idea to reach out directly to that embassy and ask them if they will accept language courses for DTV.
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
OP
@John ******
so what's the right avenue ? What is the guaranteed language training/ course and where to take it to qualify under the soft power ? I'm kind of confused here as I think learning Thai language is included..really confused now! Please help!
John *******
John *******
@Alma **************
I think he is saying that from what most embassies have said is that language courses, regardless of the length of the course, are not grounds for DTV visa. So far only 1 individual seems to have done it, months ago, and that embassy since then has confirmed that language courses don’t count. Please reach out to the embassy you will apply through before spending money on a course.
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
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@John *********
so are you saying the 3 months class might not be qualified under the soft power dtv?
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
OP
@John *********
yes, we were with the owner herself and very clear with her information that the 3 months class is qualified under dtv and will be providing us with all their license, registration with the ministry as a language institute..
Charles **********
Charles **********
no....language course not part of soft power
Pete *******
Pete *******
@Charles *********
untrue, I have read reports of DTV being issued on the basis of language courses.
George *********
George *********
@Pete ******
correct....I did
Charles **********
Charles **********
@Pete ******
hmm really where?
Pete *******
Pete *******
@George ********
I also believe I saw one report of a DTV based on language course from an ASEAN embassy. Congratulations on a successful application.
George *********
George *********
@Charles *********
probably referring to my post. I say, yet again...and I have actually been called a liar on this forum, that I successfully obtained my DTV from the Thai embassy in London, and within around 10 days based on enrolling on a Thai language course in Bangkok.

I now await all the comments from the experts, and the know all to shoot it down yet again....of course, this may not be the case anymore...but I know of one other person who after contacting me, also was successful via language course from London.
Pete *******
Pete *******
@Charles *********
look back at previous posts.
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
OP
@Pete ******
aaaaahhh! What is and what is not???
Alma ***************
Alma ***************
OP
@Charles *********
so far we haven't committed but planning to register next week..will be monitoring all responses ..then maybe Muay Thai is hubby's last resort!
Charles **********
Charles **********
@Alma **************
general rule DO NOT apply with language course or face high chance of rejection

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