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Do my wife and I need to prove separate incomes or savings for the Non-Immigrant Visa “O-A”?
Non-Immigrant Visa O-AIncome requirementsSavings requirementsLong-stay visaThai Immigration lawsVisa application processDependent visasProof of income
Oct 8, 2018
8 years ago
Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERAnother dumb question: My wife and I are both applying for a Non-Immigrant Visa “O-A”. Do we each need 65,000 Baht income, or 130,000 Baht total? Or do we each need 800,000 Baht savings, or 1,600,000 Baht total?
TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion clarifies that for a Non-Immigrant Visa O-A, both spouses must individually meet the financial requirements. Each person needs to show either 800,000 Baht in savings or a monthly income of 65,000 Baht, as stated by the Thai consulate's guidelines. It is also noted that income proof is not necessarily required if applying for the visa from the U.S. consulate, but will be necessary when applying for extensions in Thailand. Alternatively, it may be more beneficial for one spouse to apply for the O-A visa while the other applies for a dependent visa, thus avoiding the need for dual financial proof initially.
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Bob ********
Hi, this week I went to Saraburi Immigration, only for a 'proof of address' letter for Driving Licence application. The young lady dealing with me was chatting to my Thai girlfriend, in Thai. I'm here on a Non Imm O-A Visa which expires next June. Afterwards my g.f said the official had told her that next year I will need 800,000 baht in a Thai bank or combination of income and savings etc etc. I know that the 'income letter' will no longer be available from my Embassy (U.K) but next June will I still be able to stamp out of Thailand and back in to get another years stamp? Am I correct in thinking that I will only need the funds in Thailand the year after (2020) when I apply for a yearly extension? Tod recently posted this to a member withe the O-A Visa but I don't know if it was before the UK Embassy made their statement.......'Tod Daniels Scott Hahn go to a border, stamp out of thailand, stamp in&out of another country, turn around stamp back into thailand as fast as you can do the process. There is no amount of time you have to be out of the country only that you stamp in and out of another country BEFORE comin' back to thailand'.
Bob ********
Thanks Robert. As I suspected something has been 'lost' in translation. So the Embassy business only comes into play when I want the yearly extension of stay. Gives me time to save some money.
Robert *******
The visa is valid till the enter before/valid until date on the visa. If you leave Thailand and re-enter before this date you will get 1 year of stay. After this date you need a re-entry permit if you like to travel abroad and keep this stay alive.
Bob ********
My 'enter until' date is 19th June, but I believe that is immaterial if I want to stay in Thailand?
Bob ********
Hi Robert....I posted that my Non Imm O-A Visa expires next June....the 6th.
Robert *******
To cut a long story short. Without knowing the dates of the visa, we can not provide an answer.
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Tod *********
Example of year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A visa
This visa was issued April 10 2018 and is valid until April 9 2019 <- meaning the holder can come in and out all they want until the 9th of Apri 2019 and they will get stamped into the country for a year each time.
This visa was issued April 10 2018 and is valid until April 9 2019 <- meaning the holder can come in and out all they want until the 9th of Apri 2019 and they will get stamped into the country for a year each time.
Tod *********
@Scott *****
if you are applying for a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A (Long Stay) visa from the thai consulate in your country you meet the financial requirements using a bank account in your country. You don't need to bank a single baht of money in a thai bank account to get that visa from the thai consulate in Chicago.Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTEREasy enough!
And for my three teenage daughters I would assume I would just get 90 day visa is for each one of them, correct?
And for my three teenage daughters I would assume I would just get 90 day visa is for each one of them, correct?
Tod *********
@Scott *****
go to a border, stamp out of thailand, stamp in&out of another country, turn around stamp back into thailand as fast as you can do the process. There is no amount of time you have to be out of the country only that you stamp in and out of another country BEFORE comin' back to thailandScott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERAnd to get a one year stamp on my original visa can be done by doing a simple visa run to the border, correct? I don’t have to leave the country for set period of time, correct?
Tod *********
@Scott *****
correct, extensions of stays based on being over 50 (retirement) are issued for a year at a time.Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERWow! You just cleared up all lotta confusion for me. I would assume the extensions are only for one year and not for the two-year, correct?
Tod *********
OR you can go back to Chicago and get a brand new year-long, multi-entry Non-O-A visa from them and do the whole 2 years again. I know people who never have gotten in country extensions of stays because they just go back and get a new Non-O-A visa every two years because they feel it's easier. That's a decision you'll have to make on your own.
Tod *********
@Scott *****
You can only get extensions of stays inside the country. You do that by meeting the financial requirements of banking 800K baht in a thai bank account in your name only for 60 days before your extension OR getting a notarized affidavit of income from abroad from your consulate here stating you get 65K baht a month in income OR by using a combination of seasoned banked money and the income notary to total 800K baht for the year.As I said, IF you get a O-A visa you're at almost TWO years away from applying for your first yearly extension and no one knows what the rules will be then.. These are the rules as they stand now
Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTEROk, thanks. Then one year after the Visa expires, I will need to apply for an extension, correct? And I can do that in Thailand or at the consulate in Chicago? What scenario do you need to have the money in a Thai bank, as opposed to a US bank?
Tod *********
@Scott *****
When you buy the visa from the thai consulate It will be sold as a year-long, multi-entry Non-Immigrant Type O-A visa <- meaning you can come and go all you want for the validity of the visa (a year from the date it's issued) and every time you enter the country you get stamped in for another full year. Once you exit/re-enter one last time just before the visa itself expires and get that "free" second year, IF you need to leave the country you'd need to buy a re-entry permit from the immigration office or from the airport before you fly out.
Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERDo I get multiple one year stamps if I come and go from Thailand several times during year 1 of the visa?
Tod *********
@Scott *****
correct (y) AND that would be almost TWO years from the date the visa was issued. The reason that is that way is because the visa is good for unlimited entries for the validity (a year from the date it's issued) AND every entry gets you stamped in for a whole new year. IF you exited&re-entered the country just prior to the "enter before" date on the visa itself you would get stamped in for a whole new year (giving you two years of stay out of a visa that is valid for a year) :)Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERMaybe I'm using the wrong terminology when I say "renew". So when my O-A visa expires, I don't "Renew" the visa, but I apply for an extension?
Tod *********
@Scott *****
you can NEVER EVER renew a visa or an extension of stay.Be that as it may, IF you get that O-A visa from the thai consulate in your country before you come here you will have almost 2 years of stay in country before you need to apply for an extension of stay.
So while it'd be a good while down the road before you need to apply for a yearly extension; you'd need to bank 800K baht in an account in your name only for 60 days before you applied for your yearly extension of stay.
Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERI like the sound of that. What scenario do you need to have the money in a Thai bank? If you renew that visa in Thailand?
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Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you for all of the information!
Robert *******
Option 2, One of you get the Non Immigrant O-A visa, the partner applies for the Non Immigrant O visa and gets only 90 days of stay in Thailand on arrival. The partner can apply after 60 days for an Extension of STay as dependent of the partner with the Non Immigrant O-A visa. With this way you do not have to proof the funds for both of you.
Tod *********
@Joe **********
most consulates will issue a 90 day single entry Non-O visa to the spouse of someone getting a year-long, multi-entry Non-O-A (Long Stay) visa without a problem. The consulate in London even spells out that's what they'll do for spouses.Joe ***********
@Robert ******
- Then what visa would her Dependent Visa be referencing if it hasn't been issued yet? Maybe the Consulate will do it.Robert *******
That's new, if you apply at the same time it should be no problem.
Joe ***********
@Robert ******
- a non O Dependent visa cannot be applied for at a Consulate until the Primary visa upon which it would be Dependent is issued. Otherwise the Non O Application would be treated as a regular Non O and financial requirements would come into playReply to
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Robert *******
IT is getting confusing with all these recommended applications. I shall try to explain in one comment: You have 2 options, both of you apply for the Non Immigrant O-A visa before you make your way to Thailand and get 1 year of stay at arrival. During the validity of the visa, it is mentioned with a date under Valid until or Enter Before on the Visa, you can leave and come back into Thailand when you like. Each entry gives a new 1 year of Stay. So if you leave and come back into Thailand just before or on the last date of the visa you get almost 2 years of stay out of this visa. Be aware that after the day mentioned on the visa you need a re-entry permit to travel abroad and to come back to keep your admitted to stay period alive. OR option 2:
Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERHmm.. And why is that a better way? Just curious. Cheaper? Less hassle?
Joe ***********
Next the Wife applies for a One Year Extension of Stay based on being a Dependent of the Non Imm O-A Visa of the husband
Joe ***********
Scott... The better way for a married couple to get Long Stay visas - is usually for the husband to apply for the Non Imm O-A Visa - show proof of the Equivalent of 800,000 Thai baht in the applicant's home country bank.
Then the wife enters Thailand on an Exempt Entry 30 days and then applies for an Extension of 30 days. Then at the 30th. Day remaining the Wife applies for a Non Imm O Visa 90 Days at Thai Immigration as a Dependant of the husband.
Then the wife enters Thailand on an Exempt Entry 30 days and then applies for an Extension of 30 days. Then at the 30th. Day remaining the Wife applies for a Non Imm O Visa 90 Days at Thai Immigration as a Dependant of the husband.
Joe ***********
But there is a better way
Joe ***********
Applying in the USA at a Thai Consulate for a Non Immigrant O- A Multi-Entry Visa the Husband and Wife Would file separately with the Financial Requirement to have the US Dollar equivalent to 800,000 Thai Baht in an American Bank
Joe ***********
Double check Application Forms
Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERSo, the money can be in a US bank, and doesn't have to be in a Thai bank? There is a spot on the form where it asks monthly income also.
Joe ***********
When an American citizen applies for a Non Immigrant O-A Multi Entry Visa at a Thai Consulate in the USA the U.S.Dollar Equivalent of 800,000 Thai Baht in an American Bank Account is required.
There is No Monthly Income Amount allowed to be used to apply for the Non Imm O-A Visa anywhere
There is No Monthly Income Amount allowed to be used to apply for the Non Imm O-A Visa anywhere
Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERFor proof of monthly income we need to get an affidavit from our US Embassy?
Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERBut extensions can be applied for in Thailand, i assume.
Joe ***********
@Scott *****
- Not for a Non Imm O-A Visa - as this Visa can only be applied for in one's Home CountryReply to
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Robert *******
If you like to apply both for this visa you need to meet the requirements both. there is no mention on the Thai Consulate in Chicago website of the amount of money. But it should be a minimum of 65.000 Thb monthly income or equivelant currency each or 800.000 Thb or equivalant currency each on a bank account
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Scott ******
ORIGINAL POSTERChicago is 3 hours away.
Robert *******
Where do you like to apply for this Non Immigrant O-A visa?
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