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Can you convert a 60-day tourist visa to a Non-O visa after arriving in Thailand?
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Sep 18, 2025
7 months ago
Terry *******
ORIGINAL POSTERIf you land at bkk on a normal 60 day visa can you get a non o after that
TLDR : Answer Summary
Yes, it is possible to convert a 60-day tourist visa into a Non-O visa in Thailand, but regulations can vary by immigration office. It is generally required to have an existing bank account to facilitate this conversion, as opening a new account may not be permitted on a tourist visa. Several commenters noted their successful conversions and the necessity of showing funds in a Thai bank account. However, experiences differ, with some indicating challenges in opening bank accounts and advice suggesting it might be easier to obtain the Non-O visa prior to arriving in Thailand.
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Gordon *********
It depends on your immigration office where I live it's a definite No
Simon *******
Things have changed since the crackdown on bank accounts ,you need a bank accounts now to get the Non O visa.
If you apply for a non O visa in your own country arriving in Thailan you can use it to get a bank account you can then extend the Non O.
I have been told by a popular agent in Pattaya they can't open bank accounts anymore,other people have said there are agent that can still open bank accounts at a cost.
If you apply for a non O visa in your own country arriving in Thailan you can use it to get a bank account you can then extend the Non O.
I have been told by a popular agent in Pattaya they can't open bank accounts anymore,other people have said there are agent that can still open bank accounts at a cost.
Peter *********
Yes most certainly
Rok ********
Yes but much easier to get it from your own country. My own experience when tried to get it in-country.
David *******
Just received my 5 year DTV. Application turned around in 10 days
Phil ******
@Terry ******
firstly unless you applied for a visa before you travelled you don't have any visa but you are stamped in for 60 days Visa Exempt. Now yes this is enough time to convert to a Non O. However there are reports you might not be able to get a bank account to park your money. Do you have a bank account?Elroy ******
I arrived here on a tourist visa,converted to non O visa and then my retirement visa.Get an agent👍You will thank me later😅
David *******
@Elroy *****
No thanks. I don't thank people for advising me to throw money into the wind. Fortunately I'm not so helpless that I couldn't do it myself! 👍👍👍Nongnuch ********
@Elroy *****
there is NOTHING to thank you later, because you definitely have missed the news. . . . yours was a long time ago!! Not possible any more since February 2025Steven *********
@Elroy *****
any recommendations for a agency?Danny *******
@Steven ********
Maneerat agency, soi Post Office PattayaReply to
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David *******
@Elroy *****
Its an expensive approach. Non o 90 from your home country is way better.
$120 from Australia.
Money stays in your bank.
Insurance not mandatory.
You can jump the hoops once in Thailand.
Various options and methods.
As I recall I went from a TR60 to non o 90 in Thailand and had to have 800k in an account.
Or at least showing.
The 90 day non 0 can then be extended with a retirement extension of one year.
Again 800k in the bank.
About 30 days before the 90 runs out.
If you went via an agent in Thailand the money has to be shown for the 90 and then for the extension.
And yes you will pay an agent fee 2x times to deposit the money.
(Around 17,000 baht each time)
Plus bank account stuffing around.
Agent or friendly immigration will sort it out.
But obviously for a price.
The $120 paid in your country before coming here for a non 0 90 really simplifies the process.
Especially opening a Thailand bank account.
Dan *********
@David ******
For the OA visa, I believe compulsory Thai insurance is required, which can be costly. On the other hand, insurance for the O visa is optional. Lately, obtaining the O visa has been problematic due to other moronic rules, namely the challenges in opening a Thai bank account, necessary for transferring the 800k.Nongnuch ********
@David ******
"$120 from Australia.Money stays in your bank." . . . . "stay" ??? . . . . only for the application to the visa. For the application to the extension the money needs to sit in your Thai bank account
David *******
@Nongnuch *******
Correct. But from experience it's much easier to get a 90 days before arrival.
Then yes, sort out an account
Any commercial bank.
And meet the deposit requirements.
(Or agent method around 15,000 to 17,000)
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Kevin *******
Get a non o from outside of the kingdom then get a retirement visa whilst here you don't need to get a rip off merchant agent !
Elroy ******
@Kevin ******
Aah tnx for clearing that up👌Pete *******
@Kevin ******
the Non O outside the Kingdom is the retirement visa. Once in Thailand you do not apply for another visa but instead apply for a 1 year extension of stay.Reply to
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Kevin *******
@Elroy *****
and how much did you payGary **********
@Kevin ******
does it matter if ya get sortedDavid *******
@Gary *********
It does if you're paying *****
baht instead of 2000 baht 😂😂Gary **********
@David ******
it's upto the individual to make their mind up what they want to pay,if they get what they want for whatever it costs it's their choice so it doesn't matterDavid *******
@Gary *********
It doesn't, but the same people will then complain about dual pricing in Thailand. It makes me ROFL how they can justify handing over 20,000 baht for nothing, and then meltdown over 300 baht!Kevin *******
@Gary *********
of course it does ! During covid I paid 12k for non O and 15 for a retirement visa I'll be doing it for a lot less soon ! Ps and when the authorities close down the agents and check out their customers list ? TIT Never say Never !Gary **********
@Kevin ******
so you paid it then and got the non o, so it don't matter.David *******
@Kevin ******
There are still several Immigration that will accommodate without an agent. About 17,000.
And it still happens.
(From non 0 90)
If you know you know.
Pattaya (Jomtien) still does.
Buriram does.
Its no secret...
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Simon *********
Can convert if already have a bank account...
บูรพา **********
@Simon ********
yes correct must to have thai bank account first .Reply to
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Brandon ************
You would need to check with your immigration office, to see if they allow conversion from tourist to non-O visa. Most immigration offices do allow it, but not all of them.
You also need to have a bank account already, because you will not be able to open one if you arrive as a tourist. And you'll need to be able to show money in your Thai bank account in order to apply for a non-O visa.
You also need to have a bank account already, because you will not be able to open one if you arrive as a tourist. And you'll need to be able to show money in your Thai bank account in order to apply for a non-O visa.
Robin *******
@Brandon ***********
Nongbualamphu immigration office do they told me I could change from 60 days to non-0 visa as I already had a bank account,Kevin *******
@Brandon ***********
I was told by udonthani immigration its not possible to get a non o in Thailand whilst on a tourist visa ! Had to apply outside the kingdom this was only last April ! Not seen any changes anywhere !Nongnuch ********
@Kevin ******
you definitely CAN change from a tourist visa to a "90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa" if you ALREADY have a Thai bank account with 800,000 THB sitting in it and if "your" Immigration is willing to apply the current POLICE ORDER, as you can read under number 9 on this Immigration website. If an Immigration office tells you they can't, that's Thailand ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Brandon ************
@Kevin ******
There are 77 provinces in Thailand, and each one has their own immigration office. Each of those offices has their own policies. That's why I said that some office allow it and some do not.Kevin *******
@Brandon ***********
it's on the official website so can you find out which provinces do or is it wrong information ? 🤔Brandon ************
@Kevin ******
the only way to find out is to go there and ask. They all do their own thing. That's how Thailand works. Doesn't matter what's written anywhere.Terry *******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Brandon ***********
jing jing krup 🙏Reply to
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@Brandon ***********
so if your a tourist how do you have a bank account already?Peter *********
@Michael *******
like me many have using agentMichael ********
@Peter ********
but haven't the rules changed regarding bank accounts and agents? Please correct me if I am wrong because I am interested.Peter *********
@Michael *******
sorry Michael I’m not an expert had my bank account kasikorn 11 years , agent out money in and out instantlyReply to
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Terry *******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Michael *******
I have been in the uk for a year and my visa has expired So I could be leaving on short notice
And I can’t remember the rules
Also they have probably changed like they do in Thailand
I lived on samui for 11 years
Sold my hotel & moved to Korat to bring up my daughter
She’s 19 now
Hopefully I should have no problems getting a no o after I arrive
Michael ********
@Terry ******
i am living just outside Non Thai on the 205.Nongnuch ********
@Terry ******
if you got a minimum of 800,000 THB sitting in your Thai bank account (no seasoning required at this point!) , there is no problem to apply for the "change of visa type" from a touristic visa-exempt entry to an initial 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa on Immigration. Check the procedure here under number 9 of the list ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
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@Michael *******
Why are you assuming this is someone's very first trip to Thailand? Some people have been traveling to Thailand for years or decades, and have bank accounts from the past.Michael ********
@Brandon ***********
I have to go back to England on Wednesday.Got my 60 days when arrived got 30 at immigration then did a border bounce in laos,came back same day with another 60 days and last month went to immigration for another 30 =180.Don't want to risk doing another border run,even stay in laos for 5 days or so.I have done this visa thing all wrong,got my girlfriend a buisness brought land and had a small property put on it.Michael ********
@Brandon ***********
ok my wrong,I have seen he has a bank account for 25 years.🫣Antanas *************
@Brandon ***********
yes agree same like meReply to
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Bra****
I live in nackhornratchimaTerry *******
ORIGINAL POSTER@Brandon ***********
had a bank account for 25 years got plenty of money in itLewis **********
@Terry ******
from my understanding you need to have a Thai bank account set up which can’t be done while on a tourist visa best bet would be to go to a place like Vietnam and set up from thereBrandon ************
@Lewis *********
Why are you replying that to a comment that says they already have a bank account?Reply to
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Brandon ************
@Terry ******
Then go to your immigration office after you arrive, ask them for their handout of requirements to convert to non-O visa. Then gather everything on the list and return to apply.Terry *******
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Daniel ************
yes - can convert
John ********
@Daniel ***********
no ya can't!Daniel ************
@John *******
of course you can a Jomtien Immi does it on a daily basisReply to
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Nongnuch ********
@Daniel ***********
NO you cannot make the "change" from a touristic entry tpo a 90-days Non-O visa any more, since February 2025, unless you already have a Thai bank account with 800,000 THB sitting in it. In Jomtien only, they will ask you for a bank letter which confirms that the money already has seasoned for two months for the application to the initial Non-O visa (which is contrary to the official police order, that only requires the money to SIT in the account on the day you apply)Daniel ************
Nongnuch ********
@Daniel ***********
if you already have a Thai bank with a minimum of 800,000 THB sitting in it, a proof that the money came from abroad, a rental contract and a minimum of 15 days left on your "admitted stay" stamp, you can apply for the "change of visa type" from a touristic entry to the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa on Immigration (not in Jomtien, they go by different rules) If you DON'T have a Thai bank account, yet, you CANNOT convert (there is only ONE agent in Bangkok who would do it for you if you buy their complete package for 60,000 THB) The official requirements are listed under number 9 of this list: *******************************************
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Ron *******
@Daniel ***********
How ? My understanding is, the non o must be obtained at the Thai embassy in your home country?David ********
@Ron ******
you haven’t done much research then. That’s the worst way to go about it!Come to Thailand, go to an agent. I highly recommend Anna Visa in Hua Hin. Let them handle everything. Best decision I made!
Ron *******
@David *******
I live here. I've never used an agency for visa, drivers license, bank account, or anything else.David ********
@Ron ******
Good for you! Some people would prefer to use them, that’s why they exist. I for one would rather pay for it, than to duck with it.Ron *******
@David *******
To be honest, I almost did on my first retirement extension. It was getting pretty frustrating. Now that I'm familiar with it and remind myself I'm not busy 🤣🤣🤣 so I don't need to hurry, it's pretty easy.Reply to
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Daniel ************
@Ron ******
go to jomtien immi and convert it for 2000 thb - to non o visa 3 months and do extension - they have a list of docs to bring - can do alone or with agentSteven *********
@Daniel ***********
link to this office?Ron *******
@Daniel ***********
Thanks. I don't need to. I'm here on a retirement extension. I was just curious.Daniel ************
@Ron ******
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Graham ******
@Ron ******
no, you can also get Non-O Visas inside ThailandRob **********
@Ron ******
you are getting confused with the OA visa, which must be applied for in your home country by showing the required funds in your bank account and also purchasing the mandatory health insurance.Fra *****
@Rob *********
but only for the OA you have to show the insurance not for ORon *******
@Rob *********
Thank you. What's funny is I applied for this 3 years ago when I moved here. I thought it was the Non O but to be honest I don't recallRob **********
@Ron ******
There is both the OA and Non O visa you can apply for both from your home country, they both have slightly different requirements of course. But you cannot apply for the OA in Thailand, where you can apply for the Non O visa inside of Thailand.Fra *****
@Rob *********
you are sure ? I thought non o only possible in your home country after you can extend in ThailandGraham ******
@Fra ****
A Non-O can be obtained in Thailand too but requires a Thai bank accountRob **********
@Fra ****
I am 100% sureReply to
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Alan *****
@Ron ******
go through an agentReply to
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