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Can I switch from a tourist visa to a retirement visa while in Thailand?

May 30, 2025
5 days ago
David ******
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Hi can you go onto retirement visa from tourist visa when you are in thialand 🙏
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TLDR : Answer Summary
Yes, it is possible to switch from a tourist visa to a retirement visa (NON-O Visa) while in Thailand, but it involves meeting certain requirements. Currently, one major challenge is opening a Thai bank account on a tourist visa, as many have found it increasingly difficult to do so without an agent's assistance. Applicants typically need to show proof of 800,000 THB in the bank for at least 60 days prior to application for a NON-O Visa, and having a bank account is often necessary. Some agents have found ways to facilitate this process despite the recent tightening of bank rules. It's advised to consult with a reliable agency that can assist in navigating these requirements.
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Mikkel *******
Looks like going forward, it's only possible to do so if you already have a Thai bank account. And let's be real for a minute. Would your home country allow tourists to open bank accounts? I guess not..

The idea was always that you get the visa before travelling. Agents made that go away. But agents have no say in international banking. It's getting taken out that you can do it like that. It was never intended that you could anyway.

Get the non o from the thai embassy in your country, before going, and you will have zero issues opening an account when getting here.

Arrive on a tourist visa, and it's no longer possible to open an account. As it should be..
Simon *********
When I opened a bank account in Ubon Ratchatani, back in 2015, I couldn't figure out how to get a certificate of residence from immigration, to allow me to open the account. Bangkok Bank allowed me to open an account with the Head Man from the village signing as guarantee...

Ubon immigration said they would only give a certificate of residence after I'd lived there for 12 months...

When I needed certificates of residence again, for driving licenses and car and bike registrations, I found out that in Ubon, the Tourist police issue them.

Ubon immigration is a bit of a trek and very unhelpful, or was then, so you might find it easier to use an agent
David ******
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@Simon ********
thank you Simon I cab get tm30 of my girlfriend she said about letter from head .an of sanlong
Edward ********
You don't need an agent for anything. I am astounded that these agencies continue to sell their services. All that you need to do 'legally' you can do yourself.
Jesper *******
@Edward *******
basically true for most of the process you can do it yourself BUT getting a bank acct with a tourist visa without the help of agent? Good luck
Edward ********
@Jesper ******
if you can't do it yourself then I wonder if it is legal.
Jesper *******
@Edward *******
is it legal to own a bank acct?
Greg ***********
The opening of a bank account on a Tourist Visa or visa-exempt entry is possible again, after a delay that firstly left agencies clueless

The opening of a Thai bank account on a Tourist Visa or on a visa-exempt entry, has been made possible, again, under some conditions

Some agents, after the tightening of bank rules in February 2025, have by now figured out a safe way to open a bank account even on a tourist visa or visa-exempt.

They however need the full cooperation of both Immigration and the Thai bank, in delaying the timely process of a "change of visa type".

This procedure involves that Immigration allows the application to the “change” without the existence of a Thai bank account, and they issue the 90-days Non-Imm-O Visa for “14 days under consideration” despite the non-existence of a Thai bank account.

The applicant will receive a receipt from Immigration over the 2000.- THB application fee, which says he is applying for the “change” to the 90-days Non-Imm-O visa, and the “under consideration” stamp proves that the application is already under way.

The bank will accept this receipt as proof that the process of aquiring a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa is under way, and will open a bank account for the applicant.

Right after, the applicant must transfer a minimum of 800,000 THB onto the account as soon as possible, and re-visit Immigration with the bank statement that the 800K deposit now is sitting in the account.

Immigration will stamp the 90-days Non-Imm-O visa as "under consideration" for 14 days. After this waiting period, the visa itself gets stamped, with the 90 days beginning to count of the day he initially applied for the “change”.

As soon as the 800,000 THB have seasoned in the account for 2 months, an application to the 1-year Extension of Stay Permit based on Retirement can be made

CONCLUSION: find the right agency who has an agreement with Immigration and the bank, and go from there. It costs, but well, y’all know, nobody rides for free
Paul *******
@Mots ********
will help you
Wayne *******
Thailand has figured out another way to scam expats out of more money. The place is a joke now. rinse rinse rinse and repeat 😂
Richard ******
No
Ar *******
When my friend did the retirement visa at beginning of April , his agency in Pattaya , a very well known agency with a good reputation struggled to get him a bank account, eventually got it but it took several visits to do it. Then we heard that no agencies were doing retirement visas due to some problem with bank accounts. Has this settled down now , we are travelling sept/ October and one friend intends to get retirement visa to stay longer . We also had issues getting through immigration last time as we returned a month after leaving , immigration told us we came back to quick and grilled us for information, one of group was only staying 2+weeks the others were staying longer and hoping to extend the 60 to 90 days . One friend went to visa place beside immigration at jomtiem who did his extension for him , think it was 4000 baht. We all might need to bite the bullet and get retirement visa with multiple entry so we feel secure enough to visit
Greg ***********
@Ar ******
The opening of a Thai bank account on a Tourist Visa or on a visa-exempt entry, has been made possible, again, under some conditions

Some agents, after the tightening of bank rules in February 2025, have by now figured out a safe way to open a bank account even on a tourist visa or visa-exempt.

They however need the full cooperation of both Immigration and the Thai bank, in delaying the timely process of a "change of visa type".

Immigration allows the application to the “change” without the existence of a Thai bank account.

The applicant will receive a receipt from Immigration over the 2000.- THB application fee, which says he is applying for the 90-days Non-Imm-O visa.

The bank will accept this receipt as proof that the process of aquiring a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa is under way, and will open a bank account for the applicant.

Right after, the applicant must transfer a minimum of 800,000 THB onto the account as soon as possible, and re-visit Immigration with the bank statement that the 800K deposit now is sitting in the account.

Immigration will stamp the 90-days Non-Imm-O visa as "under consideration" for 14 days. After this waiting period, the visa itself gets stamped, with the 90 days beginning to count of the day he initially applied for the “change”.

As soon as the 800,000 THB have seasoned in the account for 2 months, an application to the 1-year Extension of Stay Permit based on Retirement can be made

CONCLUSION: find the right agency who has an agreement with Immigration and the bank, and go from there. It costs, but well nobody rides for free
Ar *******
@Greg **********
thanks for that explanation, really appreciated
Ivan *********
If you have the money anything is possible in Thailand
Dwain *******
Its getting more and more difficult to open a bank account on a tourist visa. I first got a retirement visa non-o-a and qualified showing enough monthly income and also health insurance. I did secure a bank account and am now in the process of changing my visa from non-o-a to a non-o. One also has to show proof of 800,000baht in the bank 60 days prior to applying for a non-o visa which doesn't require health insurance. Confused yet?
David ******
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@Dwain ******
I know catch 22
Dwain *******
@David *****
chicken fights in Thailand or Philippines
David ******
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@Dwain ******
thialand
Dwain *******
@David *****
I also had to show a deposit slip, updated bank book, and also transaction history paperwork from the bank the day of application. Oh and give 2000baht. And don't forget...copies, copies, copies!
Simon ******
I did it with a agent
Greg ***********
@Simon *****
not possible any more., except if you buy the service needed for a "change of visa type"
Mark *********
Try Mots
David ******
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@Mark ********
thank you will consider but prefer to do in ubon ratchathani as girlfriend can show tm30
Mark *********
@David *****
...yes .good idea.
David ******
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I can show 800.000 if agent can get bank acouunt it will be ubon ratchathani where I live
Greg ***********
@David *****
it doesn't matter what you can show - to be able to open a Thai bank account, you either need to have arrived in Thailand on a 90-days Non-O visa, or you need to buy the agent's service for the application to the "change of visa type" - and that's costly, even when you have own funds . . I however doubt you find any agents in Ubon Ratchathani. You will need to accomodate in a more touristic region like Pattaya or Hua Hin, where agents are abundant
Stephen *********
@David *****
where in Ubon? We have a house just outside of Ubon.I’m not quite ready to retire but want to open a bank account. So that I can start transferring funds to have my 800.000B in the bank ready for my retirement.
Brandon ************
@David *****
not likely to find an agent there
David ******
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Coming from uk
Jesper *******
Yes if already have a thai bank acct under your name
Bob **********
Yes if you have 15-21 days left
Stuart *********
You can if you can meet the requirements. The hard one will be to open a Thai bank account. Almost impossible now on a tourist visa.
Tim **********
@Stuart ********
the government is closing any account made with a tourist visa

Mostly Russian the article says
Greg ***********
@Tim *********
regardless what the article says - the measures are not limited to Russians only. Every nationality is hit
Tim **********
@Greg **********
you are correct

Not limited to Russians at all

But it appears the majority of the accounts closed were Russian
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