Can you be refused entry to Thailand if you visit too often?

@Sam ******

natasha corrupteinupienska

Visa exempt, Tourist Visa, Volunteer Visa, Non-O (Marriage). But 80% of it was visa exempt or tourist visa. I'm currently on Single Entry Non-O but before that I did 2x visa exempt by land in 2023. Fear mongering is counter productive and mostly factually incorrect. What matter is not google or what a 65 years old angry old fart who haven't done a visa run in 20 years think. What matter is a mix of personal experience and report from people who did said visa or border run. You will notice in this group that the reports are always from BKK, Phuket and Poipet, never from anywhere else. The small anecdotal evidences from any other port of entry has been debunked everytime it's been presented (whether because of person was trying a 3rd land entry on visa exempt in a calendar year or didn't have 20k baht).

@Maxim **********

you have been living here all this time on a tourist visa? wow, you have avoided issues, but I can't think that will last forever..

@Jorge ****

so mine was largely because i had an ED visa where they suspected was not legit

@Graham *****

i know but i am asking about experiences to have an idea, and inmigrations oficers have only some margin of desition, they can not deny too fast and also they can not acept everyone always if they dont want to get fired.

@Jorge ****

That's up to the Immigration Officer with your passport, there is no figure in law

@Harry *********

how much time have you been spending in thailand before to get denied?

@Graham *****

so the tourist will get 7 days permit in case he is aplying the last day of his permit

@Jorge ****

It is not an extension, it is 7 days to leave from the date your passport is stamped

@Graham *****

if i have still for example 20 days of my visa exemption do they still give 7 days extention?

@Jorge ****

If there is a reason to deny an application for an Extension this 7 days stamp will be given

@Graham *****

so they give you 7 days extra instead of 30 if i am denied?

@Jorge ****

It's 1900B and if you are denied an extension you will likely get a "Extension denied, 7 days to leave Thailand" stamp. The 1900B is not to purchase an extension, it's to submit an application so you get nothing back.

Be calm, compliant, and don't get intimidated by a few questions...if you got nothing to hide, you should be fine..,

@Jorge ****

Yep. It happened to an acquaintance of mine. He attempted to do what I guessed was his 15th or 18th visa run. He had been on back to back visa exemption stamps for more than a year. They told him to get a retirement visa, or else, he'd only be allowed 4-5 months per year. The funny thing is that he was in his late fifties (at an age when he could qualify for retirement visa) and was an ex fireman on full disability after a serious accident (no problem with money). But he preferred to stash his £4-5K monthly disability pension in property back in the UK rather than do the same in Thailand. He left for Cambodia and never came back.

@Stéfan *******

they let you stay for only one week? The stamp is for one week?

@Bart *************

Yeah i like Trump ! The crime rate in Norway have increased more that 300% after the gouverment started to import refugees. Murders, knifestabbings and gangfights every day. Extortions and gangrapes by muslims increased 1000% and you call me a hater ! One day you will find out the hard way and wake up . Then you remember my wods. You naive fool !

@Tobben *******

yeah every hater thinks they're the realist. Like every flat earther does. Every trump fan. Etc.

@Bart *************

Not a hater just a realist who can see the truth,but I know what you are !

@Tobben *******

ah, you're one of that kind. A hater. Every refugee is a rapist and other kinds of nonsensical quotes.

I would hope that some sense reaches your toxic brain one day, but I don't have any illusions that today is that day. Wish you the best.

@Bart *************

Here in Norway we give people who come here house and everything in it for free. We even give them more money every month than a worker in Norway can earn for beeing criminals and kill/rape women ! Norway call them refugees !

@Andrew ******

Because of their money,nothing else ! No money no entry,no money no stay ! Must have 800.000 bath in an account to have visa for 1 year. Not many thaipeope earn 800.000 bath in a year ! It"s pay or fuck off ! That's why i choose The Philippines !

@Tobben *******

errr yes, of course. Wouldn't you want people who live in your country to be financially capable?

But we were talking about tourists remember? The doors are wide open. There is a money requirement only on paper (and it's not that anybody who can afford a flight ticket wouldn't have 20k baht).

@Bart *************

As Long as the wallet also are wide open you mean ? Nobody can enter Thailand legally if you dont have money. They even demand that you have 800.000 bath in a bankaccount a year to be able to have a visa so you can live there !

@Tobben *******

the feeling I get is Thailand reluctantly tolerates tourists

@Harry *********

I understand. Just because one has a more powerful passport doesn't give them the rights to live in another country indefinitely and complain about it when they have to leave. I'm not speaking about you or anyone in particular, it just seems to be a common theme from expats who don't want to leave Thailand and also can't get proper visas.

@Zoe *****

yes because the Thai passport is obviously less powerful

@Tobben *******

Can any foreigner just come and go and stay for as long as they wish in YOUR country? Most countries in the west make it extremely difficult for Thais to visit, they have to jump through hoops to even get a tourist visa, while all the farangs want to live in Thailand without proper visas and constantly complain about how they can't just come and go and live here for as long as they want. The entitlement is nauseating.

@Tobben *******

why would it seem that Thailand doesn't want tourists? The doors are wide open for them.

@Tobben *******

because there's a process to follow if you want to live in Thailand.

Why ? They dont care they only want their money !

@Tobben *******

they just don't want people living for several months on back to back exemption entry stamps.

@Tobben *******

of course they want tourists. People trying to live in Thailand without a long term visa are not tourists. Does your country let non citizens come and stay as long as they want?

@Hristo **********

biometrics my friend...

@Jon *****

Sure they can, but most probably they have not a well developed software that automatically shows them a red flag and when you have a line with 10 people waiting it's normal to go in the easy way and just stamp the new pass. I did enter after Ed visas with old and with a new pass and always had questions with the old one and a very fast processing with the new one... Sure somewhen in the future they will update their software and this approach will become useless... So better try to get a long term solution.

@Hristo **********

FYI Thai immigration can link the passports together. Date of birth, country, and and name is the same, correct?

New passport dont change anything, they scan fingerprints of every visitor

@Bhavin *********

They absolutely can see your entire visa history, on every previous passport, with the touch of a button.

However, they dont always do said check, if you've got a new passport, that *can* help.

That said, if they want to see your previous history, they can.

Getting a new passport, therefore, while it can make some difference, is no longer the 100% clean new slate it once was.

@Bhavin *********

Yes they have a record of entry and exit.

@Natasha *******

im going again next week then off to see my daughter Winchester April yeah

@Natasha *******

mmmm might have to double check

Hey nat are you looking to retire there?

@John *********

true

@Nongnuch *******

the Dodge guy has no clue at all.

@Have ******

you just lost all credibility with your last sentence.

@Have ******

😄 "For a country whose economy is entirely dependent on tourism" . . . . . . . . 😅😅 you are grossly exaggerating . . . . . . . . . . . . . . "entirely dependent"??? . . . . . . . . . . . . international tourism in the years 2018 and 2019 contributed 12% to the GDP. At the moment it is less, as the number of visitors is only half of that in the years before the pandemic. So international tourism in the recent two years contributed around 5% to 6% of the GDP. Domestic tourism also is not fully back, yet, it used to contribute 8%

@Have ******

them questioning or denying entry to probably 0.001% of daily visitors isn't going to cripple the industry.

For what it's worth I entered Thailand about 14 times last year, maximum stay of 3 weeks but usually just there for long weekends.

Previously lived and worked there, legally and not on visa exemptions or tourist visas, for 3 years. Never been questioned once, including my most recent entry 10 days ago.

@Have ******

that Almost 20% (17%) IS including domestic tourism.

@Jyrki ********

almost 20% of GDP in the second half of 2022. If of the economy disappeared overnight in your country may that cause a problem or a knock on effect? 🙄

@Have ******

tourism IS maybe 5-10% of Thailands evonomy.

@Natasha *******

happened to me last month. had to fly out the country on the same airline I flew in on.

@Natasha *******

Why cant you get a Tourist visa? Did you try The Thai Embassy there?

@Natasha *******

don't let these guys scare you. Sounds like you're fine. It's people turning up over and over again for a visa exempt that have issues. If you've done 2x TV or 3x Visa Exempt in one calendar year (6 months) all the evidence is that you're fine. (I hear that coming over land 3x for a visa exempt can be an issue too. Stick to airports if doing that.

I just took a look at your previous post.. you have quite an extensive history of Covid extensions, visa exempts, 60 day tourist visa, etc. Best you plan for a denied entry in case.

@Natasha *******

you can get a TV in Delhi. We did it a few months ago. No problems at all

@Todd ********

I agree. I don't have any issues with immigration cracking down on people living here on TR, thats their job. My point is that I doubt I would have the same easy living on a TR that it did a decade ago. Thankfully, I don't have to worry about it. I wouldn't recommend anyone banking on it as a long term option, but it really comes down to the individual at the embassy and the Immigration officer you deal with.

@Sam ********

I totally agree with you that you are eventually going to have to answer some questions. Just immigration officers doing their job though, that’s a good thing. Make sure you have good answers and 3 proofs though!! And for sure, not the same as a decade or more ago

@Todd ********

. Some people may be able to get away with it, but its not like before where you could just live here without any fear of consequences with tourist visas indefinitely, you are liable to get turned away and rejected. That is all I am saying, ten years ago, that rarely happened.

@Sam ********

you are kidding right? I know many people here for years on TV and exempt with some travel, border bounce and visa runs. Not hard. Choose point of entry carefully. Use fast track as needed.

If over 50, long stay is no problem. If married, no problem. If under 50 and/or not married, you will face some challenges for long stay

@Scott ************

some may, but it doesnt mean its guaranteed to be ok. Eventually if someone wants to say something they will. Are you living here on a tourist visa? maybe you are one of the lucky ones, but generally, you aren't going to get away with living here for years with one...

@Sam ********

not true

@Maxim **********

agree about BkK main airport

Don Muang is better if you need visa on arrival

You guys were stopped in either BKK, Phuket, or Poi Pet. It's been the big 3 since 2017. No other airport nor border care about your entry history.

@Bart *************

see the pic with a wink ;)

Interestingly, I've entered Indonesia 3 times in my life now, matching pic 2 the first time, matching pic 3 the second time, and matching the rightmost pic the last time. All three times I was asked by Indo immigrations to show proof of onward travel.

Makes you think they may not actually discriminate between the categories.

@Rene *****

very unlikely from far left to far right.

@Martin ********

same last November here

@Jo *********

i was stopped last August and warned

@Hristo **********

true

@Jo *********

And this is why you didn't face a problem, cause you didn't use the entire length of your visas/extensions, so obv when smo enter and stay 1 month and go out is not about working here. Problems occur when you leave after full stay+extension and visa run for 1-2 days... Additionally you re most probably over 50 and qualify for a retirement visa, so it's less likely to work illegally...

@Lee *********

obviously I entered 8 times last year and also 8 in 2022

@Jo *********

you’re obviously not up to date with the more recent happenings

@Jo *********

apparently they do sometimes and use it as excuse to deny entry. See the visa groups...

@Rene *****

that’s ridiculous I have entered about 200 times over 20 years never been asked neither have my friends

@Rene *****

20k€ will help. 500€ is nothing if you have long history avoiding visa.. Thais welcome weekend millionaires🙏

@Jonathan *************************

I have always had a tourist visa until this year, I broke my neck and wasn't sure I could travel, went to Cabo San Lucas for one month and applied for tourist visa but was traveling to Thailand in one week so they didn't issue the Visa because you need 15 days to travel. Agent questioned me but let me in on visa exempt. I have to get 30 more days at immigration then leave the country for several days and re-enter for final month. Hopefully that will be okay.

@Brandon ***********

well said , particularly in Thailand

@Andy *********

long history + they suspected my previous ED visa wasn’t legit

@Andy *********

Refusal entry by land is not a thing except in Poi Pet. Not a single report of anyone refused elsewhere ever.

@Harry *********

why did they refuse entry into Thailand??

@Andy *********

happened to me recently at suvarnabhumi. i had to fly out the country on the same

airline

@Andy *********

at a land border they go back and their exit stamp is cancelled and they return to whatever country they came from. Very common at the Poipet border.

@Francois *******

the immigration officer you are standing in front of at the border has final and complete authority about if you'll be entering the country or not. It is at their discretion. Same for basically every country in the world.

@Francois *******

there is no tourist visa 3 months.

@Francois *******

absolutely they can - a tourist visa helps but is not a 100% gaurentee you will be let in.

@Brandon ***********

what happens when someone gets refused entry to Thailand?? At say one of the land borders, because they are stuck in the middle after stamping out the previous country, I'm aware of people flying in internationally, and being returned to their home country, but not heard what people actually do in other circumstances.

Dave mes couilles 😂😂

@Francois *******

yes they still have authority to deny entry but they better have a real good reason.