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When does the 90-day reporting period begin after receiving a first 12-month Non-O extension in Thailand?
Quick question re: first 90 day report after getting my first 12 month non immigrant O retirement visa extension at Chaeng Watthana in Bangkok. Does the 90 days start from the date I entered Thailand (Nov 4) or the date I got the 12 month extension stamp (Dec 24)? I wasn't given the little note stapled in my passport indicating when. I also can't find anything official on the immigration website.
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The 90-day reporting period for a Non-O visa in Thailand begins from the date of entry into the country, not the date of the visa extension. In the case presented, since the individual entered Thailand on November 4, their first 90-day report is due on February 1, 2026, regardless of the 12-month extension received on December 24. The extension does not reset the 90-day reporting clock unless it is within 15 days of the reporting deadline.
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Corinna *******
I asked at immigration office when I got 90 days Non O. He said not yet. So I guess 90 days after 1 year extension of stay starts.
Jason *********
OPI think Jack Sam is right on this one. I just found the same thing on the Los Angeles consulate website:
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"The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days."Ian ********
It does make sense because otherwise I would have to go to IO 30 days before my non o expires to apply for an extension.Two weeks later I would have to go and do a 90 day report .Its only a 10 minute drive for me but others it can be hours of driving
Stephen *********
If you have just recieved your start of 90 day why didnt you ask the questionon recieving it,why walk away & ask it here making you look stupid,advance knowledge is better than no knowledge i think,dont do everything after the event ask whilst your applying make your life so much easier .
Jack *****
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Read point #5.
First extension starts count. Equivalent to a report.
Mally *******
Bloody confusing all the different stories ,who do we believe???
Jesper *******
@Mally ******
believe yourself in judgment trust someone which have gone tru the process Or someone who poses answers from AI/GoogleJesper *******
@Jack ****
ppl gives advised base on experience not from some Google and AI shit answers......when you do a extension and if its close to your 90days reporting the immigration office might do on the spot your 90days report the OP's extension is too far away from the 90days report date that's why he did not get the report slip.....the reason for 90days report is to verify your latest address if you are staying in thailand for more than 90days....means day01 when you enter thailand day 90 u report your latest address..... for the OP's case he have to do it 90days base on 4Nov not base on 24Dec base on extension dateJack *****
@Jesper ******
read the original question. It's about the FIRST extension. The 90 day stamp the Non O provided on entry has an expiry PRIOR to 90 days.
When you apply for and extension of that permission of stay immigration treats that as a report clock start.
From then on yes an exit and reentry (with reentry permit) the entry date starts the clock. BTW entry date counts as day one.
So you don't understand that then fine.
Google "does FIRST extension start the 90 day report clock AseanNow"
The visa forum discusses this often.
Check it out
Greg ***********
@Jack ****
I have reported EVERY wrong information you posted to the admins . . . . you have reached the end of the road, dudeJack *****
Pete *******
@Jack ****
you are talking nonsense. Immigration does not treat extensions as a report clock start. If I enter on a non-o and then leave and return after day 30 and then on day 45 of my non-o stamp I apply for my 1 year extension of stay my 90 day report is not effected by the extension. I still need to report 90 days after my last return to Thailand.Pete *******
@Jack ****
complete nonsense. Your 90 day report is due after 90 days from your most recent entry. The extension is irrelevant.Jack *****
@Pete ******
you are making zero sense. Yes it is possible to exit and reenter Thailand during the 90 day period the Non O entry stamp provides. However the reentry permit would have same expiry as the existing 90 day stamp.
When you do the FIRST extension it is equivalent to report.
It starts the count.
Your first report will be due 90 days from extension date
Pete *******
@Jack ****
that doesn’t apply if you have left the kingdom during your initial 90 day stamp.Jack *****
@Pete ******
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Jack *****
First Extension: When you apply for your first extension of stay (e.g., a one-year extension based on a work permit or retirement visa), this action effectively serves as your first 90-day notification. Your next 90-day reporting date will be 90 days from the date of that extension stamp/approval, not the original entry date.
OP, the above is copy paste from AI. Disregard some poor advice to your question.
The FIRST 12 month extension acts as a report. The first one you will do has due date 90 days from your extension.
OP, the above is copy paste from AI. Disregard some poor advice to your question.
The FIRST 12 month extension acts as a report. The first one you will do has due date 90 days from your extension.
Ian ********
There are people stating that you only have to do a 90 day report once you have a visa valid for more than 90 days ie an extension which is your answer .I don’t know which answer is correct tbh
Jack *****
@Ian *******
ok google this... "Does first extension start your 90 day report clock AseanNow" This is discussed often on AseanNow visa forums..
Fact is when you enter Thailand with a Non O you are given a 90 day permission of stay stamp. If you apply for a 12 month extension immigration "regards that" as a report. Your clock starts from that date.
Note this is really the only time 90 reporting lines up with extension date.
Added confusion is that some offices do a 90 report for subsequent extensions. Offices such as CW do not.
Wannikea *********
@Jack ****
without competing for the debate of the year, I guess the OP should trot on down to their local office and find out why they didn't get the slip for the next 90-day report dateJack *****
@Greg **********
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Official immigration web. Read #5
5. The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days.
Just so you understand. The FIRST extension is "Equivalent" to 90 day notification.
No TM47 is done.
The (FIRST)extension starts the clock.
Greg ***********
@Jack ****
you have been in this group for 1 week, and you want to lecture experienced visa advisors? I guess you won't be in this group much longer, as the experts will report every wrong information to Fb and to the group admins. You can pack your bags because you will soon be on holiday from this groupJack *****
@Wannikea ********
I typed what to google regards FIRST 90 day report. Clearly you didn't bother to read all the threads in that forum.Edit: I just searched that forum. Here is quote from one of the experts....
"I understand the date you apply for your very first extension does count as day 1 of your 90 day period. But thereafter not on subsequent extensions"
Wannikea *********
@Jack ****
that would only be true if you're 90 day report or extension is done almost at the end of your original 90 day Visa. In the case of the OP they did their extension around 60 days into the original 90 day stamp. Way too soon to do a 90-day report.
Ian **********
It starts when you enter the country. You do your extension at the end of the non O 90 days, so it counts as a report, and your next 90-days is into your 12 month extension.
Graham ******
@Ian *********
not if you enter on a Non-O as that is just a 90 day stamp ;)Ian **********
Graham Seal, what are you talking about? The poster asked when does he do his 90-day report after doing his first 12-month extension.
Tim ********
Clues in the 90 days ......
Tom *******
Wow it’s like a roulette wheel ! Which answer is correct
Wannikea *********
@Tom ******
mine. Jack Sam has been in the group a week and is spouting off nonsenseGreg ***********
@Wannikea ********
agreed, fully agreed. I have noticed the sameGreg ***********
@Tom ******
the correct answer is the one that explains it in detail 😂. If somebody can explain the process in detail, he is obviously the one who is blessed with knowledgeIan ********
I will be in a similar situation as I will do my first extension middle of January then will have to return about 2 weeks later to do my first 90 day report
Greg ***********
@Ian *******
if you are 15 days or less away from the due date, your visit on Immigration can get you 90-days reportedIan ********
True but I’d rather play safe and go early in case I overlook something and my IO in pathum Thani is only a 10 minute drive
Graham ******
@Ian *******
and please report back here when they tell you when your first 90 day report will actually be dueGreg ***********
the "15 days before due date" is the relevant mark. It is the blueprint for honouring the day he receives the extension as being a valid 90 days report. If you are still outside those 15 days, you cannot do a 90 days report, and the 1-year extension issued does NOT reset the original due date, which is 90 days away from when he entered
Greg ***********
He wasn't given the 90-days report next due date paper slip.
Now pray tell me, does everybody hear the bells ringing and the pipes whistling?
It clearly indicates that they did not honor his visit as a 90-days report by December 24. By this date, the 90-days report due date was still 38 days away.
A 1-year extension issued does NOT reset the 90-days report date automatically.
It would only does so if the due date was 15 days or less away on the day he applied for the extension.
Only in this case, his visit would have been honored being a 90-days report and he would have received the paper slip
Now pray tell me, does everybody hear the bells ringing and the pipes whistling?
It clearly indicates that they did not honor his visit as a 90-days report by December 24. By this date, the 90-days report due date was still 38 days away.
A 1-year extension issued does NOT reset the 90-days report date automatically.
It would only does so if the due date was 15 days or less away on the day he applied for the extension.
Only in this case, his visit would have been honored being a 90-days report and he would have received the paper slip
Wannikea *********
Due 90 days from entry. If when doing your extension it was very very close to the actual due date the officer would have reported the 90 days for you and put the reminder slip for your next report into your passport.
Greg ***********
@Wannikea ********
exactly. Thank you for confirming what I explained. @Jack ****
I don't need any barstool advice from Google or Asean Now, to KNOW exactly what I know! If he was 15 days or less away from due date, Immigration would have reported the 90 days from him. However since he was still 38 days away from the original due date, they did NOT report him and did NOT give him the paper slipGreg ***********
@Jason ********
please go back to Immigration and ask them when your 90 days report is due. If the tell you it is by February 1, then PLEASE post it here, so I do not have to deal with all those non-believers and naysayers 😆Greg ***********
His 90-days report wasn't done on Immigration when he received the one-year extension by December 24.
And I have explained why:
He wasn't yet within the last 15 days before the mandatory due date of his first 90-days report by December 24th.
His report is due on February 1st. since he entered by November 4th. By December 24th, he was still 38 days away from the due date
That's why he didn't receive the paper slip.
The due date remains the same = February 1st
And I have explained why:
He wasn't yet within the last 15 days before the mandatory due date of his first 90-days report by December 24th.
His report is due on February 1st. since he entered by November 4th. By December 24th, he was still 38 days away from the due date
That's why he didn't receive the paper slip.
The due date remains the same = February 1st
Ian ********
So when you do a 90 day report you are automatically given a slip of paper with the next due date on ?So because he didn’t receive one you are deducing that his visit didn’t count as a 90 day report ?
Greg ***********
@Ian *******
actually, TWO factors STRONGLY indicate that his visit was not rated a 90-days report:*** the due date is on February 1, exactly 90 days after his entry. By December 24, this is still 38 days away.
You cannot do a 90 days report unless there are 15 days or less left until the due date (and until 7 days after due date)
*** the second factor is the missing slip. If he wasn’t given the slip into the passport with a newly stamped 90-days report next due date, he simply hadn’t done a 90-days report by December 24
It’s very EASY to understand, you just need to know the reporting process and simply understand what Immigration is doing. As a visa-advice reader since 25 years, I have understood the guidelines in use on Immigration offices
Greg ***********
@Jason ********
you got the 1-year extension on December 24th, this means you were not yet within the last 15 days for the 90-days reporting, since you entered on November 4th. You were still 38 days away from the due date. That's why you did not receive the paper slip. . . This means you still have to do the mandatory 90-days report in person on Immigration, on 90 days away from November 4th, which would be on February 1st, 2026. People in this thread who claim your 90-days report was done on December 24, are wrong!
John ********
@Greg **********
all of them are correct, except the ones that aren't ! Now stop squabbling children ! 🤣Greg ***********
@John *******
I am looking forward at @Jason ********
reporting back to us 🙂Jack *****
@Greg **********
they are not wrong. Obtaining the extension resets the clock for the FIRST extensionGreg ***********
@Jack ****
he wasn't given the paper slip. Do you hear the bells ringing and the pipes whistling? It clearly indicates that they did not honor his visit as a 90-days report by December 24. The 1-year extension does NOT reset the 90-days report date automatically. . . . . It only does so if the due date is 15 days or less away on the day the extension is applied forJack *****
@Greg **********
suggest you google the topic on AseanNow. Fully explained there.Greg ***********
@Jack ****
this is complete and utter BS. . . . . . You have absolutely no clue and you should stop handing out wrong advice, as this is not the only time but you have already handed out wrong information in other threads . . . . . His 90-days report due date was still 38 days away by December 24. If the due date was 15 days or less away, his visit on Immigration would have been counted as the 90-days report. But now his due date for the 90-days report is still by February 1Jack *****
The 90 count starts from when you obtain first extension. Not from when you entered Thailand
Pete *******
@Jack ****
incorrect, 90 day reporting is due after 90 days in Thailand, getting an extension is irrelevant to your reporting requirements. Some offices may process the address notification at the same time as the extension and give you a receipt stapled in the back of your passport giving you the date of your next report, some offices don’t.Greg ***********
@Jack ****
the 90 days report wasn't done on December 24. And I have explained why. He wasn't yet on the last 15 days of the date before the mandatory first report by December 24th. That's why he didn't receive the paper slip. His report is due on February 1st
Darren *********
It starts when you entered the country. If you leave it before 90 days it starts over at 0 when you enter again.
Graham ******
@Darren ********
No because then the OP was on a 90 day Non-O and there is no 90 day report on 90 day stamps, it starts when on the 12 month extensionGreg ***********
@Graham *****
the 90 days report wasn't done on December 24. And I have explained why. He wasn't yet on the last 15 days of the date before the mandatory first report by December 24th. That's why he didn't receive the paper slip. His report is due on February 1stGraham ******
@Greg **********
we will see what he posts ;)Greg ***********
@Graham *****
exactly, and the due date of his 90 days report remained the same, it is by February 1. His extension starts on the day afterGraham ******
@Greg **********
If the OP entered on a Non-O 4-Nov his extension does not start until those 90 days have finished then that day becomes day 1 of the first 90 day report as he is starting the 12 month extension which was received 24-Dec.Jack *****
@Darren ********
no. The clock is set when you obtain the extension.Greg ***********
@Jack ****
this is wrong 😕😕 . . . the clock would only reset, if the day he applied for the extension was within 15 days before the due date of the 90-days report. Which is on February 1st since he entered on November 4th . . so the due date was still 38 days away, and that's why he didn't receive the paper slip
Yeo **********
Following. I received my extension when I entered Thailand 2 months ago. I have been travelling within Thailand, so TM30 filed by hotels every few weeks. Do I have to report 90 days from last TM30 filing or 90 days from entry?
Bob **********
@Yeo *********
it’s 90 days in ThailandYeo **********
@Bob *********
Thank youJason *********
OP@Yeo *********
I believe in your case it is 90 days from entry. The TM30 doesn't reset the clock.Yeo **********
@Jason ********
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