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What should I do if the condo owner is reluctant to provide the blue book for my educational visa application in Thailand?
Educational VisaThailand Visa RequirementsBlue BookCondo RentalTM30 FormImmigration ProcessExpat Advice
Nov 3, 2023
2 years ago
Alex **********
ORIGINAL POSTERHi everyone, I hope you can help as always.
Just signed a contract for a condo. This has fallen in line with me applying for an educational visa.
The visa requires the owner to send me a copy/picture of the bluebook of owner address and bluebook of the condo.
My agent is saying that because this is a personal document the owner might not send, if this is the case is there anything I can do as I won't be able to get my visa unless he sends it over.
Thanks again everyone.
Just signed a contract for a condo. This has fallen in line with me applying for an educational visa.
The visa requires the owner to send me a copy/picture of the bluebook of owner address and bluebook of the condo.
My agent is saying that because this is a personal document the owner might not send, if this is the case is there anything I can do as I won't be able to get my visa unless he sends it over.
Thanks again everyone.
TLDR : Answer Summary
The user is applying for an educational visa in Thailand and requires a copy of the condo owner's blue book. There are concerns that the owner may not provide this document, which is essential for the visa application. Comments from the community clarify that the blue book is not a personal document and is needed for completing the TM30 form. It’s emphasized that the owner should provide this information as part of the rental agreement, and hesitance may indicate issues with tax compliance related to rental income. Suggestions include ensuring the landlord's cooperation or possibly considering a different rental if compliance cannot be secured.
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Elisa **********
It’s not a personal document at all. Make sure they send it. Otherwise it might be a sublease which is often illegal
John ********
You will need the information from the landlord to complete the visa application at the immigration office,
It's not surprising that the landlord is not happy to help you as he may not be paying any tax on the rent you give him,
You may have to move to a new condo as he does not have to give up the information you need to give the immigration office for the visa
So if you have to move make sure that your landlord is happy to accept the fact he will have to give you the information for the immigration
It's not surprising that the landlord is not happy to help you as he may not be paying any tax on the rent you give him,
You may have to move to a new condo as he does not have to give up the information you need to give the immigration office for the visa
So if you have to move make sure that your landlord is happy to accept the fact he will have to give you the information for the immigration
Alex **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@John *******
thanks John I was worried about this. Okay I’ll sit tight and hope he complies. Nothings never as straight forward here hahaJohn ********
@Alex *********
good luck and make sure that he does the tm30 as well and gives you a copy of itReply to
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Paul ********
When an agent or owner refuses to provide what is needed to do a TM30, it typically suggests that they are not reporting the rental income to avoid paying taxes. This has been the case for many years.
But now, at least at Jomtien immigration, a TM30 filed after your most recent re-entry is required to do just about anything. So if your landlord is not giving you what you need to do a TM30, it could be a big problem for you, I think.
But now, at least at Jomtien immigration, a TM30 filed after your most recent re-entry is required to do just about anything. So if your landlord is not giving you what you need to do a TM30, it could be a big problem for you, I think.
Alex **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Paul *******
thanks for this Paul. I do have a TM30 in my possession and that’s all above board, it’s just the copy of the blue book.Reply to
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Craig ********
why are you using an agent if you are doing an ED visa? Typically the school will work with you to get the visa items sorted out.
Alex **********
ORIGINAL POSTERAs in the letting agency who acts as a medium between me and the landlord, nothing to do with the school.
Alex **********
ORIGINAL POSTERChonburi province. They seem pretty stern on this blue book here. Can’t continue without it.
Craig ********
@Alex *********
Oh you are using an agent for the condo rental, i see. What province are you in? I was not asked for rental agreements on an ED visa. Not until I changed to retiree.Reply to
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Stuart ***********
It should form part of the contract for the condo, mine has always included a copy of; my passport, their ID card and the blue book.
Alex **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stuart **********
thanks for this Stuart. Would you say it’s a legal requirement for it to be in the contract? Or is that just opening up a barrel of wormsStuart ***********
@Alex *********
I don't know whether it is a legal requirement, but I would explain that you must have it or you cannot continue, because you must have it for Thai immigration. They should not refuse to send a photocopy in black and white.
Good luck.
Alex **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Stuart **********
it just so happens my rent is due today so I’ve just explained that I can’t continue unless this is sorted.Stuart ***********
@Alex *********
hopefully that should make them provide a copy for you, good timing!Reply to
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Garrett ***********
It's not a personal document, just proof he's the owner / authorized to sign your lease. He needs his blue book to do a tm30 for you also.
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