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What documents are required for applying for a Thai visa from a landlord's perspective?
Thai VisaVisa ApplicationHouse RegistrationLandlord RequirementsChanoteEmbassy ProceduresExpat IssuesHanoi EmbassyForeign Ownership in Thailand
Jul 8, 2023
3 years ago
Oliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTERI went to Hanoi's Thai embassy on Wednesday to apply for a visa but was told I couldn't apply without my landlord's house registration.
I returned on Thursday with a copy of what my landlord says is the house registration document (it's in Thai but I can see it has my address on it) and the embassy front desk accepted my application.
On Friday, the embassy contacted me to say they couldn't process my visa because the document the landlord provided doesn't show his name.
My landlord says he hasn't put his name on the house registration because he owns many properties (not sure why that's relevant). Instead, he has provided me with some utility bills in his name and suggested I show that to the embassy.
I presume that when I take these documents to the embassy on Monday, they won't accept them, as the embassy staff were adamant that the house registration document shows the landlord's name (they think the landlord just provided the wrong page).
I'm now very confused and any words of wisdom or guidance would be very much appreciated.
I returned on Thursday with a copy of what my landlord says is the house registration document (it's in Thai but I can see it has my address on it) and the embassy front desk accepted my application.
On Friday, the embassy contacted me to say they couldn't process my visa because the document the landlord provided doesn't show his name.
My landlord says he hasn't put his name on the house registration because he owns many properties (not sure why that's relevant). Instead, he has provided me with some utility bills in his name and suggested I show that to the embassy.
I presume that when I take these documents to the embassy on Monday, they won't accept them, as the embassy staff were adamant that the house registration document shows the landlord's name (they think the landlord just provided the wrong page).
I'm now very confused and any words of wisdom or guidance would be very much appreciated.
TLDR : Answer Summary
The user faced issues applying for a Thai visa at the embassy in Hanoi due to missing landlord documentation, specifically the house registration not showing the landlord's name. After struggling to resolve this, community members suggested obtaining additional documents such as utility bills, an invitation letter, and the Chanote (land title deed). Ultimately, after applying the recommended solution by acquiring the Chanote, the embassy accepted the documents, leading to successful visa processing.
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Oliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTERUPDATE: as suggested by some of you (thank you!), I got a copy of the chanote document from my landlord and the embassy accepted it - they processed my visa swiftly thereafter.
Kevin ******
Copy of landlords I'd card should be ok signed
Kevin ******
Does anyone no if they are asking for same documents in ho chi min ?
Jeffrey **********
Hanoi is known for being difficult
Sarick **********
Ask landlord for Cha-nod it should have both the address and his name
John **********
Get a copy of the landlord's blue book with his name in it and a copy of his Thai ID. Doesn't have to be where you live, that's what your lease is for.
Lauren ******************
Maybe ask your landlord for the Chanote, front and back. His name will be stated on the back
Brent *******
You can own many properties but as the owner your name can only be on one of them - where the owner is living/registered.
I have been told this by many people including a lawyer.
If you are a foreigner then you can have a yellow book instead of a blue book but can only be registered at one property.
So i am told.
If you have many properties then the blue book will only have your name in one (even for thai)
But you can have your name in one, your wife on another and your kids on others etc etc)
That said, blue book, channote and letter from your landlord with a lease/contract agreement should suffice.
It does in Phuket as i have done this.
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As always you are the mercy of embassies, immigration and bureaucrats that make their own interpretation of actual laws and rules. š¤·āāļø
I have been told this by many people including a lawyer.
If you are a foreigner then you can have a yellow book instead of a blue book but can only be registered at one property.
So i am told.
If you have many properties then the blue book will only have your name in one (even for thai)
But you can have your name in one, your wife on another and your kids on others etc etc)
That said, blue book, channote and letter from your landlord with a lease/contract agreement should suffice.
It does in Phuket as i have done this.
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As always you are the mercy of embassies, immigration and bureaucrats that make their own interpretation of actual laws and rules. š¤·āāļø
Henrik ****
@Brent ******
, the Blue Book, and the Deed are different. You can only stay at one place but your name should be on the Deep for all properties. In this case they are probably asking for both the Blue Book of the owner and the Deep of the property where the OP is staying.Brent *******
Henrik JN
Yes.
Each property has its own blue book
Each property has its own channotte
The owners name will only appear in ONE blue book where HE is registered. Not all of them
The owners name should appear on all the channottes.
It seems the OP problems with visa are that the officials want to see the owners name in the Blue book of the property he is renting. But if he has many properties it could be true what he is saying to the tenant about not having his name in that property book - There ARE reasons his name might not appear on that property blue book.
Foreigners names cannot appear in a Bluebook, only a yellow bookā¦.. but unlike bangkok, most foreign owners in Phuket are given bluebooks only and their name doesnāt appearš¤·āāļø. Whereas it is more common for a foreigner to have a yellow book with his name in it in bangkok.
š¤·āāļø
Yes.
Each property has its own blue book
Each property has its own channotte
The owners name will only appear in ONE blue book where HE is registered. Not all of them
The owners name should appear on all the channottes.
It seems the OP problems with visa are that the officials want to see the owners name in the Blue book of the property he is renting. But if he has many properties it could be true what he is saying to the tenant about not having his name in that property book - There ARE reasons his name might not appear on that property blue book.
Foreigners names cannot appear in a Bluebook, only a yellow bookā¦.. but unlike bangkok, most foreign owners in Phuket are given bluebooks only and their name doesnāt appearš¤·āāļø. Whereas it is more common for a foreigner to have a yellow book with his name in it in bangkok.
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Henrik ****
@Brent ******
, they probably want to see both if the addresses are different. The Blue Book is the basis for making an invitation to an alien but if the alien is invited to stay somewhere different, then you will need both - plus copy of owners ID card.Reply to
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Ally ************
My understanding is that you can only have your name on one 'blue book' which is normally the property you consider to be your main residence.. if you buy additional property/s your name will be on the chanute as owner.. but your local Amphur will not give you a blue book with your name on it.. this opinion comes from recent personal experience.. where an Amphur gave us the previous owners blue book to retain.. but stated that they could not change the name in the book while the owners name was already on a blue book elsewhere.. so maybe the Landlord is not being dishonest after all š¤
Dave **********
@Ally ***********
correct your name can only be in one House Registration at a time but in as many Chanute's ( tittle deeds) as you can afford.Reply to
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Hakim ************
Ask the landlord to issue an invitation letter pertaining the address you are staying in thailland. Make sure they include copy of their ID.
Oliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Hakim ***********
That's an interesting idea - not sure if it's an option.Hakim ************
@Oliver *******
I have done the same and it workedā¦Reply to
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Jeremy ********
Book a hotel in Thailand and bring that inā¦
Oliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Jeremy *******
Great minds think alike - I tried that yesterday but they told me because I've shown my rent contract, that pathway is now the only optionJeremy ********
@Oliver *******
one more choice thanā¦go to another country and apply for the visa at a Thai Embassy/Consulateā¦Laos, Singapore, Malaysia, Japan, Canada, etcOliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTERthe landlord gave me the utility bills and I will try not to bother him again - just hoping the embassy will accept them but I'm guessing they won't - any thoughts on Cambodia vs Laos? (they were both very easy and quick from my experience but that was going back more than 5 years)
Cliff *********
@Oliver *******
you should listen to what the embassy staff are telling you they require. Bother you landlord again and get the extra pages. Tell him that he will lose his tenant because you will not be able to return to Thailandā¦ā¦Also consider that the embassy requirement is now in their computer system and another embassy will see that.
Good luck!
Jeremy ********
@Oliver *******
savannakhet is still a walk in service and very efficientā¦usually 1-2 dayās turnaroundOliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Jeremy *******
Again, after they told me they can't accept the document that they accepted the previous day, my first reaction was to ask for my passport back with the plan that I would just fly to Cambodia / Laos / Malaysia (I just came from Japan and it seemed difficult to do visas there, Canada is a bit far) but then the embassy staff talked me out of it by explaining that the house registration document is a few pages and the landlord must have just accidentally copied the wrong page. Hence, I left my passport with her and I'm now trapped in Hanoi until Monday at least.Jeremy ********
@Oliver *******
use this as a life lesson and book a hotel in the future for all visa runs so this never happens againā¦always control what you can control and leave out the unexpected Murphyās that lead to any inconvenienceOliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTERany idea how the internet speed is up there these days?
Jeremy ********
@Oliver *******
on the savannakhet consulate get there early if it opens at 0900 get in line no later than 0730 and always avoid MondayPaul *******
@Jeremy *******
Would be crazy to wait in line that long. Just come at 10am...but not on Mondays or Thursdays. Friday is a good day, no wait.Oliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Jeremy *******
yes, I definitely should've just booked at a hotel from the start - it was just that on their website it says house registration "(if any)", which I wrongly understood to mean it's optionalJeremy ********
@Oliver *******
no idea but every hotel Iāve stayed in has great Wi-Fi in Laosā¦not sure about 3-ļæ¼5g because Iām not there long enough to justify the expenseJeremy ********
@Oliver *******
I would give the landlord until Monday to produce the documents and after that I would move onto plan A, B, C, or ZReply to
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Andy *******
Do the 30 days Visa Expempt by just crossing without a visa.
Oliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Andy *********
good advice - unfortunately, I've done 3 of those already this year and the embassy staff reckon I wouldn't get away with another one (by air nor land)Marianne ********
@Oliver *******
I got stopped on my 3rd time.Jamie ********
@Marianne *******
what happened? Did you get refused entry?Marianne ********
@Jamie *******
Initially, yes. But we had a good conversation and they let me in after I showed proof of income and me purchasing my ticket back home while I was there. They told me to come back with a proper visa next time.
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Oliver ********
ORIGINAL POSTERthat's interesting - I thought I read somewhere official that there was a limit of 3 times within 6 rolling months
Stephen *******************
@Oliver *******
Just make sure you can prove you have a return flight out of Thailand when your visa expires and you can prove you have sufficient funds to support your stay in Thailand and there is nothing immigration will want to question you about. Bye the way Expedia do flight cancellation within 24 hours of booking so you can download your proof of exit if questioned.Simple and effective š
Randy ********
@Oliver *******
not true. Thereās a rule, only 2 land border crossings in a calendar year. Itās unlimited by air. But, if youāre abusing the visa exempt stamp, the immigration officer will eventually start to ask question. That exempt stamp isnāt for living in Thailand.Reply to
Randy ********
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Jeremy ********
@Oliver *******
there is no official limit on air InsAndy *******
@Oliver *******
they are guessing, try.Reply to
Andy *******
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