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What should I do if my condo failed to notify immigration and I have to pay a fine for my visa extension in Thailand?

Visa ExtensionTM30 ReportImmigration FineCondo RegistrationThailand Expat IssuesNon-O VisaLiving in Thailand
Dec 20, 2023
a year ago
David **********
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Thought condo notified immigration They took my passport. I asked a question they smiled. Yes now I went to my 30 day extension. I have to go back tomorrow and pay a fine anyone know what that’s about.
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The user is facing a fine due to their condo failing to file the necessary TM30 report with immigration upon moving in, which has impacted their ability to obtain a 30-day visa extension. Despite the condo being responsible for filing the report, the user is being asked to pay the fine first in order to proceed with their visa extension. Other comments in the thread discuss the responsibility of condo owners regarding immigration registration and the general frustrations of expats dealing with these bureaucratic issues.
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Steve *******
the condo owner should pay the fine not you.
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Sidney *********
A lot of condos don’t register you,because Airbnb renters are supposed to stay at least a month,but some rent the rooms for a lot shorter periods which is illegal and they can be fined for that.
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Elisa *******
The owner of the property is responsible for doing your TM30 report, not you. They have to pay the fine. I don't understand why you should pay a fine for something you are not responsible for and cannot actually do yourself.
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Steve *******
@Elisa ******
 You dont have to pay the fine but you wont get an extention of stay/residence cert, etc untill someone does pay it!
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Elisa *******
@Steve ******
 that is extortion. Doesn't anyone approach the owner ?
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Steve *******
@Elisa ******
 Hardly extortion. Someone has to pay the fine before Immigration will issue anything. Dont pay the fine and take it up with your landlord. Good luck with that!
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John *******
It's thailand you always pay for something you never asked for
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Steve *******
Technically they're(the condo) being fined. You're just paying it on their behalf!
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Loic ***************
Land of Smiles????
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Stéfan ********
Yep... I found that out 2 weeks ago. We're basically responsible for something that isn't our responsibility. In my case, it was a hotel.
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Yiba *******
Welcome to Thailand
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John ********
When you move into a new condo you should make it clear to the owner that they will be dealing with immigration and they will have to do some paperwork so you must make it clear before you move into the condo or sign the contract for the condo, even show them the information on the thai immigration system
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David *******
They dont want to register you part lazy and part to do with tax
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Brian *********
Jomtien was 1600b when it happened to me, immigration phoned the condo owner and told him to pay the fine.

Initially I had to pay it as they wouldn't issue an extension until the fine was paid but I was reimbursed the next day.
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Carsten ************
@Brian ********
 exactly
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Brandon ************
You already said what it's about. Failure to notify. They took your passport but clearly didn't file a TM30 for you. Now you see the catch-22 that it's their responsibility to file but you're the one who gets fined if they don't.
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@Brandon ***********
 no the fine is for the landlord l, not for the renter
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Brandon ************
@Radost *************************
 but the renter isn't going to get what they need until the fine is paid for, therefore they'll pay the fine.
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David **********
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@Brandon ***********
 do you know the fine and is it going to affect a border run?
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Alf ***********
@David *********
, the maximum fine by law is 2000 baht.

However, usually you get fined 800 or 1600 baht, depending on the office.
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David **********
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Love this place, but unfortunately, they all smile and nod yes to every question
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Duncanc **********
@David *********
 Ask questions in Thai next time 🤭
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Carsten ************
The fine is 1600,- and you won't get a stamp into your PP. Actually you have to pay the fine for your landlord to get the extension. Deduct it from the next rent, if he doesn't want to refund it.
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Damo ***********
@Carsten ***********
 hope he keeps us updated when he deducts it from the next month's rent 😃
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Carsten ************
@Damo **********
 my landlord didn't complain. She knew, it was her fine.
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Duncan *******
@Carsten ***********
 depends on the immigration office - it's 2k in Chiang Mai.
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Brandon ************
@Duncan ******
 2000 is the fine for failing to do TM47 90-day report.
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Carsten ************
@Duncan ******
 okay, i paid 1600,- once in Jomtien.
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Brandon ************
@David *********
 I mix up some of the fine amounts. Maybe 1600 but sometimes charged half so 800? It shouldn't affect a border bounce.
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David **********
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@Brandon ***********
 o thank god
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Declan **********
@David *********
 fine is 2k and it should affect a border run
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Incognia **********
@Declan *********
 it doesnt effect anything
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