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What are the visa requirements for a newborn returning to Thailand from France?
Non B VisaChild VisaDependent VisaBirth in FranceThai Immigration RulesVisa Requirements for InfantsTravel with Children to ThailandThailand Entry Requirements
Aug 20, 2021
5 years ago
Thierry ********
ORIGINAL POSTERHello, anybody can inform me about this case or have been in similar situation?
My gf is pregnant (not Thai) and we plan to give birth in France, we both have a working permitt and Non B visa.
In that case what will be required for the child when we return to Thailand? Shall we make a visa for the child
Thanks by advance
My gf is pregnant (not Thai) and we plan to give birth in France, we both have a working permitt and Non B visa.
In that case what will be required for the child when we return to Thailand? Shall we make a visa for the child
Thanks by advance
TLDR : Answer Summary
An expat is seeking information on the visa requirements for their newborn, who will be born in France, when they return to Thailand. They've received advice suggesting that while children under two may not need a visa, it's generally advisable to obtain a Non-O dependent visa for the child to avoid complications. They're reminded to have the child's birth certificate ready to prove the child's identity and to check with the Thai embassy for additional documentation since the mother is not Thai and they are not married. Health coordination between doctors in France and Thailand is also recommended.
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Thierry ********
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you everyone 😊 I’ll figure out
A-I-*****
Yes. Make a visa.
Tod *********
Christ the O/P has some great and some total crap info on this thread (the crap mostly coming from
@Peter ********
:O)Henry *********
If the baby or child doesn't have a visa, they will be stamped in visa exempt when they arrive at BKK. If they then overstay there is no fine or ban, but when they leave Thailand their passport will be stamped 'overstay'. This shouldn't be an issue, but if the parents plan to live in Thailand and if the child may eventually go to school in Thailand, I would get them an O visa as your dependent and then they can be added to your Extension of Stay.
เจสัน ******
Best to research advice on the French Gouv. Website regarding citizenship status, passport, visa entry requirements for Thailand as an infant citizen of France.
Kool *******
At the very least you will need the birth certificate to prove it isn't trafficking in order to return to Thailand. Check with the Thai embassy on what other documents the mother will need, as you are not married. Also your doctor in France should coordinate with your doctor in Thailand, if you intend to bring the newborn back in the first few months, so needed newborn vaccinations can be coordinated, and health records transferred. Try not to be against these, as there are endemics in Thailand, and not talking about covid, that can kill if not vaccinated against.
Stuart *********
Although it’s not necessary as a child can’t be fined for overstay it probably is a wiser choice to have the correct visa from the start. Once you have their passport apply for a non O dependent visa. There is no financial requirements for that visa. Depending when you’re coming back you may have to apply for a certificate of entry for the baby too.
Peter *********
@Stuart ********
complete bollocks 👏Peter *********
Yes Google it but under 14 they are fine no visa required
Tod *********
@Peter ********
you are confusedReply to
Tod *********
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Stuart *********
@Peter ********
please educate yourself before advising people to break the law. Stuart *********
Being in Thailand without a proper visa is breaking the law. Whether you can be fined for it doesn’t change that fact.
Peter *********
@Stuart ********
sorry you are wrong if a minor traveling with parents no visa required see tm 463Stuart *********
@Peter ********
I tried to Google that but didn’t get anywhere. The OP was asking about living here long term (they’re on work permits) so technically the child needs a visa to stay. I’m not talking about tourists travelling with a child for holidays. Reply to
Stuart *********
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Peter *********
@Stuart ********
bollocks need be 14 years of age before any visa neededTod *********
ONE LAST TIME
STOP PARROTING BAD INFO
@Peter ********
you are mis-remembering how the law is written, STOP PARROTING BAD INFO
Peter *********
My son born Thailand 🇹🇭has uk passport and thai passport now 3 year old when I took him uk used 2 passpor no visaa required ?
Andy ********
@Peter ********
with the greatest respect you are in a different position to the OP. In their case the baby has, or will be, born in France to non Thai parents. The baby won’t be eligible to a Thai passport like your son. Without a Thai passport then getting a visa and extending it at the same time as one or both of the parents is the best solution. Stuart *********
@Peter ********
if he has a Thai passport he needs no visa for Thailand. If he has a UK passport he needs no visa for the UK. I see no relevance to this situation to the OPs question. Peter *********
@Stuart ********
sorry now confused thought that's what he was asking any way sorry if wrong ?Stuart *********
@Peter ********
from the OPs post both parents are not Thai. Therefore the child should have a visa. There isn’t a consequence if they don’t until 14, but they still should. Reply to
Stuart *********
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Michael ********
@Peter ********
Under 14 cannot be fined for overstaying, but doesnt mean they dont need visa. International students need visaStuart *********
@Peter ********
absolute bollocks. Show me where it says that in thai immigration law. Stuart *********
They can’t be fined for overstay but they’d still be breaking the law. Rules may change between now and 14 years and if they did who know what repercussions there could be.
Peter *********
@Stuart ********
have a solicitor friend Bangkok 100% 👍Stuart *********
@Peter ********
Ask them to show you Thai immigration law and show where it’s not necessary for a visa. I’ll bet you they can’t. Peter *********
@Stuart ********
mate up to you not care just telling you the truthStuart *********
@Peter ********
your version of the truth is your choice to believe. Mine is mine to believe.Reply to
Stuart *********
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Stuart *********
Initially the baby would be given a 90 day visa. Once you’re back here you apply for an extension of stay based on one of your long term visa. Again no financial requirement other than the 1,900 application fee.
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Stuart *********
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Garrett ***********
If they're old enough to get a passport they should have a visa. Pretty sure under 2 years of age don't require a passport or visa for entry. Not 100% of that though.
Chris *********************
@Garrett **********
unless it's changed my 2 daughters had to have passports to leave Thailand and to enter uk 3year old and 1 years old Garrett ***********
@Ch***
Where they Thai or 100% british?Chris *********************
@Garrett **********
thai born duel nationality Reply to
Chris *********************
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Tod *********
@Peter ********
and @Lindsey *********
That is TOTALLY NOT CORRECT INFO 😮Let's read the actual rule. It states that children under 15 cannot be fined for overstay and it states children under 18 cannot be banned for overstay
NO WHERE in the rule does it say that children don't need visas to stay here (they do believe me) all it states is that there's no penalty for overstay.
Also once your child goes on overstay you can't get an in country visa issued (because they cannot be issued to people on overstay) SO my advice to
@ ***************
n is get the child a 90 day Non-O visa, when they enter thailand with you they'll get stamped in for 90 days and then take them to the thai immigration office to get them an extension that matches either yours or your wifes based on being the child of a foreigner here legally working. Peter *********
@Garrett **********
14 years of age before need visaGarrett ***********
@Lin****
Neither of you know what you're talking aboutStuart *********
@Lindsey *********
sorry but you and Peter are mistaken. The fact that you can’t be fined does not mean you don’t require a visa. Who knows how the laws may change in the future and by not having the correct visa what that may entail. There’s basically no cost to getting one so why not be legal to start with.Peter *********
@Stuart ********
not understand my family 100% visa compliance all the time?Reply to
Peter *********
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