Marriage visa , what are the ins and outs please and thankyou 😀
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The marriage visa in Thailand requires proof of marriage and a financial deposit of 400,000 THB in a Thai bank account for at least two months before applying. Comparatively, it involves less money in the bank than a retirement visa, which requires 800,000 THB. However, acquiring a marriage visa can entail more paperwork and the risk of needing to renew based on the marital status. Pros of the marriage visa include the potential for a work permit and a faster route to citizenship compared to other visa types, while cons involve dependency on the marriage itself and extensive documentation requirements. Many respondents encourage taking time to gather necessary paperwork and suggest visiting local immigration offices for specific requirements.
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I would like to thank everyone 🙏 for your contributions to my question, thankyou all for your for your knowledge on the subject,
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Rich ***********
Ins are family moving in.
Outs are your bank withdraws
Seriously j/k that only happens to people that choose the wrong one
Allen ********
Doing the marriage Visa with the help of a lawyer and I’m just about through the process. She’s Thai with dual citizenship but hasn’t lived in BKK for nearly 30 years.
We married in the states before COVID hit and the fact that our marriage certificate came from the states had me going back for document authentication, which took over three months to complete. I’m actually heading back to BKK tomorrow, now that all the authentication business is complete.
Marriage Visa in Thailand is less money in the bank, but I can confirm the process is confusing at times, and a lot of paperwork.
I do plan on getting a work permit and digging in here for a few years while we take care of her parents. So it’s worth the effort.
Make sure that whoever assists you with the process is registering everything in the area you plan to live in. I hear about this getting messed up somehow with some of the ‘quick and easy’ immigration services.
Best advice I’ve gotten is to always be polite and patient no matter how many lines you have to stand in, or appointments you’re required to make. Thailand operates in it’s own unique ways, and one has to adapt to that.
Cort *****
I did my marry visa in bangkok, not agent, for my own, 0 problem, all fast, only follow the indications that Bangkok inmigration provide in the web site. Important go with the original marry certificate and also a last copy issue by ampur. Also the pictures and the maps, to me a google map was enaoguht. Regarding the money avobe 400k for 2 months before ask for the visa. No visti at home in my case
Terary **********
I once ask a agent how much for retirement visa and how much for a marriage visa
Retirement Visa
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Both, of course, cost 1900 at the immigration office but it should give you idea of the complications. Marriage visas are worth while if you are actually happily married and you have an abundance of time. I found it easier just to do back-to-back tourist visa runs.
Duncanc **********
Main problem is the marriage
Frank-Steven ***********
On the con side: Many immigration offices would require the wife to be present with you at every extension. So not only wasting your time with their inefficiencies, but disrespecting your wife’s time, too. Or imagine your marriage going south and the wife not willing to show up with you at immigration - no extension even though still married. Just some random thoughts. If over 50 or other options I would base the stay on those, rather.
Larry *******
It’s a very intrusive process. The Thai immigration comes to your house an requires witnesses to verify that your marriage is authentic. They take pictures of you and your wife in your bed. I changed to retirement extension after one year
David ***********
Too much paperwork involved, stick to retirement visa, I'm going to revert back to retirement on my next visa
Gray ******
Easy, just follow the rules exactly.
Bill *********
$$$$$$ 🏧
Jack *****
"Please note that you must first obtain a 90-day visa or a 1 year non-immigrant O visa from your home country or country of residence prior to your application for the Thai marriage visa." is it possible to obtain this type of visa once you are in Thailand at your local immigration.. mine would be Chiang Rai..? I contacted via Thailand Embassy Los Angeles web site. no response... ???
you can get the non o based on marriage in country at your local immigration office
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Nongnuch ********
on a marriage Extension, you are allowed to work (depending if you get a work permit for the kind of job you're planning to do). With a retiremenr Extension, you are not allowed to work
Jack *****
"The US embassy in Thailand is no longer issuing income letters, therefore, the application cannot use it to meet the financial requirement for the marriage visa application.".. how does one verify?? a letter from Social Security? and from the Veterans Administration?.. would it need to be certified by notary ??
nope, only foreign transfers into a Thai bank account in your name only would be acceptable. They want to see the money is physically here in Thailand.
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Jack *****
Is the 40K baht monthly income instead of the 400K in the bank.. Siam Legal states "OR"???
400k in the bank OR 12 months history of international bank transfers of 40k. Some offices do not allow transfers for initial visa and extension only allow for subsequent extensions
ok.. so all one has to have is the deposit of 40k each month.. what you do with the money afterwards is not of concern? you could spend it.. or transfer it to another account..??
correct, but bear in mind some immigration offices will not accept monthly transfers for the marriage visa and initial extension. You would need to check the requirements at your local immigration office
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Paul ********
I'm sure the in and out creates the need for the visa
Henrik *****
Go to the website of the Thai Embassy closest to you.
Choose the visa section, and all the visatypes are explained in detail.
Frazer ******
Going to try the marriage Visa first. If not happy, can always change.
Kool *******
A marriage visa reduces the time it takes to get citizenship to just three years instead of 8 if you want to get Thai citizenship, and cuts the fee by bt100,000. That is the biggest advantage to being married to a Thai and on a marriage extension.
it's actually three years of working and paying taxes, and you don't have to be completely fluent in Thai. If you are not married to a Thai then you apply for permanent residency after three years of working, then after five more years of working and paying taxes you can apply for citizenship. Being married makes a big difference.
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Jim **********
You can stay for only 1900 baht per year in Thailand, but maybe at the end you will loose all your money 🤑
Tom *******
I chose the “OUTS” and am enjoying my Thailand experiences much more…
Kevin ***********
In one hand out the other
Gary **********
I'm on the marriage extention and once ya done the first one it's a piece of piss going through the paperwork plus the money for your bank doesn't have to be international transfer.you only have to show 3months statements and update your bank book on t day ya submitting the extention.all these who are sayin its harder than the retirement ex probably use agents anyway.believe me it's a walk in the park to get the marriage ex.
Pete **********
Rent don't buy
Roger *******
The outs are getting married. 🙂
John *******
Don't have to be in marriage to have ins and outs 555
Brad **********
Those adult games should be played after the wedding 🤪
Charles *********
If you're already married then it's too late my friend! Visa or no visa - you are in for a ride!
I have been married to a beautiful thai woman for 16 years I have never regretted a single day I hope you and your partner are as happy as we are
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Peter **********
Marriage extension versus retirement extension:
+ Less money required in the bank
- More paperwork
+/- Requires assistance from wife
+ Can get work permit
I’m going the marriage extension route soon. If I can obtain a work permit for what I want to to do then I’ll stay on this method. If the work permit is denied, next year I’ll be on retirement extension.
The required 800k funds will be in the bank on day 1, no matter which visa I will request. Just to make sure.
Stephen ********
The problem is the ins when your out of the country 😂
Les ***********
What always gets me is when someone askes a genuine question and wants help.
Some give a good reply.
Some go off on there own tangent which has nothing to do with what has been asked.
While others give wrong info because they have no idea what they are talking about.
It's great how any post that mentions marriage brings out the people who are completely baffled by their own inability to maintain healthy relationships. "I'm not good at it, you won't be either, you're a fool if you even try".
Some of us tried but money is more important to many people. If I was a loser I would probably still be married ,? I was financially smart so took advantage of.
I would add, the ability to patiently understand and accept major cultural differences. It's not easy, but it's entirely possible. I know many people who are happy in their culturally mixed relationships.
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Peter **********
If someone needs to explain the ins and outs, you're too young to get married.
I'm on marriage visa it's simple stuff but it can take a while to get all the paperwork and evidence collected, it's not something you can just do the day before u need to get a few weeks getting it altogether as there is tons of paperwork, my application was over 100 pages long soake sure give yourself time and go your local immigration and ask what they want to see as some are more strict than others, mine requir my 400k Thai baht to be in my account for 3 months when it's actually onky meant to be 2 months
sakeo immigration, most of the pages were copiea of bank statements they had us print every single page for the 3 months we had to keep the 400k in the back, they were actually really helpful it was simple enough just a bit time consuming, id go to your immigration and them what they want to see for your application
wow. I just went to renew mine about 3 weeks ago in Maha Sarakham. Very helpful Immigration Office too. I would say about maybe 30 pages of documents.
Anthony *********
Yeah it just depends mine here the immigration as for a lot of of stuff think if I remember rightly all documents and the printing of my bank statements all added up to about 121 pages and we had to have two copies, im just about to renew mine as well can apply for it in June as my 3 months of 400k in the bank will be up by then
oh for sure they do, it's weird as some things are done exceptionally with modern teach but yet they still have bank books that have to go through some kind of franking machine, that's like 70s and 80s so old school and yet their online banking is very good but the paperwork for everything is a joke and completely unnecessary
That’s a deep one. Some of the comments could be choice on this one.
Basically the “marriage” Visa route only requires a wife and 400k deposit in a Thai bank. There are some options after the first year for overseas transfers or proof of Thai salary but I’ll skip those for brevity.
The downside is that you are dependent on being married each year to get a new extension. That could be an issue if you were to divorce or your wife were to pass.
Alternatively the “retirement” has no dependence on anyone other than you and the fact that you initially have 800k in a Thai bank, and either do the same at the renewal stage or switch to 65k per month overseas transfer after the 2nd extension or more.
I didn’t go that route but I see others have. Probably should have mentioned it as a “pro”. Was trying to keep it simple but I guess for some it’s a major factor.
There is no “longer” visa based on being married to a Thai national. There are other visas that offer 5, 10 or even 20 years, but they’re not based on being married. A marriage visa/extension needs renewed every year.
Sorry I never meant to imply that she would. I was merely stating that a “marriage” extension requires that you still be married and that she hasn’t passed.
It’s not easy to switch to the income method for your second year extension of stay either, unless your embassy offers to give you a affidavit letter to confirm your income or you earn the required 40K baht a month in Thailand. Therefore you might need to leave the 400K baht in your bank, or at least fill up again two months prior to your next extension of stay.
don't suppose you know anything about getting divorce certificate my ex filed for divorce in Thailand I ain't a clue if I'm still married or not I've never signed anything
you will know the very moment you visit the local Amphur and ask them for a printout of the "Kor Ror 22". This is an up-to-date marriage registry record. If your divorce has gone through, you will see it. i.e. they won't issue a marriage certificate to you (which you need for the year-to-year renewal of the "EOS married")