Answered2 years ago
What are the challenges faced when applying for a DTV visa in Thailand after previous visas?
I just wanted to go ahead and share my experience. I have been living in Thailand for two years now initially just doing boarder runs and then on a 1 year student visa. My student visa ended in September 2024. I did a boarder run to Malaysia and came back on on a 60 day exempt and extended another 30 days. I left Thailand December 20th. I applied for my DTV visa in Vietnam was approved under the workcation category. I entered Thailand and was denied entry initially. I had an interview/interegation my Thai language was tested. I do know quite of bit of Thai but didn't understand some of the questions asked and ultimately failed my interview. They asked for my outgoing ticket I didn't have one I bought a ticket on "OnwardTicket" that I have used in the past with no issues. This time didn't work and was denied entry all together. After my case being transferred to another officer and almost deported. I paid an additional 20k baht and was finally let in the country. Don't know if there was really an issue or just wanted bribe money. But Just thought I'd give a warning to those in similar situations.
Answer summary
The user shares a detailed experience of re-entering Thailand on a DTV visa after previously being on a student visa. They encountered challenges during the immigration process, including a denied entry, language proficiency testing, and a demand for an additional fee, which raised suspicions of corruption. Other users commented on the increasing scrutiny faced by individuals traveling on educational or border-run histories, and the implications of applying from neighboring countries instead of one's home country. There were also discussions about the reliability of the DTV visa and warnings against expecting guaranteed entry even with visa approval.
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Sean *******
Anonymous participant I take it you're not Vietnamese? Another red flag seems to be people applying in neighbouring countries and not their home country. And they spent a lot of time in Thailand previously and then applied for the DTV. They seem to think you have been working illegally in Thailand.
Paul *******
@Sean ******
I see. I don't see why anyone would need to apply in their home country. That's not a requirement to get this visa or any other.Sean *******
@Paul ******
I agree. This is the last post I remember where they got asked.*************************************************************************************************************
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@Paul ******
Yeah I know. I've just seen a few posts on here where people have been asked why didn't you apply in your home country? And are you working in Thailand? They never got denied though just questioned.Paul *******
@Sean ******
Not really. That's not a red flag. Having had previous volunteer or education visas and/or a history of back to back visa exempt stays is.
Gael ******
I think flying into phuket is the best option?
AllSabai ******
@Gael *****
totally the opposite even taking care of your Entry there is costing more than Bkk
Phil ********
Do not cross land to bounce at Poi Pet
Paul *******
Also, IF this VIP option actually exists, then pay up. It will cost you a lot more if you're refused entry, because of your "principles" than just paying what is a relatively small amount of money.
Again, I cannot verify the existence of this VIP option on the Thai side. I'm going by the reviews I've read.
I don't think it will ever apply to me, because I will always be driving through that border. I'll never use public transportation, thus I won't ever need to go upstairs to the hall there.
Again, I cannot verify the existence of this VIP option on the Thai side. I'm going by the reviews I've read.
I don't think it will ever apply to me, because I will always be driving through that border. I'll never use public transportation, thus I won't ever need to go upstairs to the hall there.
Paul *******
@Phil *******
There are some caveats to using that border. Leaving Thailand that way is always fine. No issue. Coming back in, if you're the driver of a vehicle (car or motorcycle), it's generally alright, as you'll get stamped in outside. Immigration outside (for drivers of vehicles) and the hall upstairs are two different things.
Apparently, according to some Google reviews, there is a 1000 Baht VIP option. I'm not sure whether paying this means guaranteed entry or not. All I can say is, do NOT enter through Aranyaprathet (Poipet is the name of the city on the Cambodian side and they don't have nearly the same reputation for refusal of entry, though it depends on your nationality, as the Thai side does) IF you do not have a visa.
Ideally, if you have a choice, choose a different border to re-enter Thailand at.
However, in my experience, Aranyaprathet has worked for me BUT that's because I ALWAYS drive my own vehicle into the country (I don't do buses or other forms of public transportation) and due to this, I can avoid the tough upstairs immigration queue with the strict immigration officials.
I also have my own policy, where I don't take foreigners with me through that border, due to how strict it is and the high chance of refusal of entry. Either I go alone or with Thai nationals (family members or friends).
Phil ********
Lee ***********
Absolutely not
@Ga**
Gael ******
@Lee **********
i heard it's much more lenientLee ***********
Not from my experience
@Ga**
. I've had no end of hassle with them over the years, even had it on my first DTV entry in December.
Andi ***********
@Gael *****
Why?Gael ******
@Andi **********
phuket immigration is pretty smooth i heard.Paul *******
@Leopold *******
With a DTV, a same day in/out is OK but NOT recommended for doing the "switch" from visa exempt to DTV. Fine for doing a 180 day bounce. Do NOT do a same day bounce at Aranyaprathet/Poipet, as you may be denied re-entry (even on a DTV) although staying out one or two nights and returning that way should be OK on a DTV.
Leopold ********
@Paul ******
I just did in/out same day at Nongkhai. No agent, no questions asked. Actually, I asked the question if it would be possible to the officers no the thai side, to make sure I wouldn't get stuck on the Laos side. They said sure, no problem; and such it was 🙏Paul *******
@Gael *****
You heard wrong. Phuket is one of the worst entry points. Most of the land borders are OK but don't do same day in/outs (except with the help of an agency at specific borders such as Ban Laem).
Toni *******
I kept my student book with me when i entered with dtv after ed visa, just in case they test my language skill. I planned to ask them to ask anything from the book since they cannot expect more. But anyway they dont need a reason for deny entry, but that was my plan 😅 i was 2 years with tr+exempts before my 9months with ED too, so i was expecting something. The IO indeed looked my passport and said "oh you went school" and i said yea my gf insisted me to, but when he saw dtv visa he didnt ask more
Leah **********
@Toni ******
Can I get an ED Visa while I’m in Thailand?AllSabai ******
@Leah *********
yes you can if you are on visa exemption or TR visa or can convert a current Non-Immigrant Visa to ED if your age is less than 50Anonymous *************
OP@Leah *********
yesAnonymous *************
OP@Toni ******
some people are just lucky. I was not.Toni *******
Anonymous participant i was lucky before my ED, was almost deported back to vietnam because so many stamps, thats why i got the ED 😅
Alistair **********
I’m sorry I don’t buy this story at all. Seems like anonymous participatant is a salty Thai agent.
Alistair **********
They didn’t do anything wrong where’s the questionable history? Why would you be denied when your visa is approved, the officer would have looked at the history and granted the visa. Seems strange but ok. No one else seems to have had a problem once granted.
Alistair **********
My Thai is terrible after the lessons but I have proof of attendance. If I had a shirty immigration officer is that ‘proof’? I got in anyway.
Anonymous ******************
@Alistair *********
As soon as you provide proves, I wouldn't see why you would be denied. The question is, are you fulfilling the requirements of your actual visa?Anonymous ******************
@Alistair *********
Yes, he didn't do anything wrong as most people will consider but he got a student visa and wasn't able to to proof he was a student; that's what he did wrong and that's why he got denied. You always need to be careful with it as a lot people take a visa as granted as soon as they obtain it. Obtaining and maintaining a visa are two different stuffs. Look at the Non-B visa for example, you'll lose it as soon as you lose your job.Anonymous *************
OP@Alistair *********
because a DTV visa is approved my the embassy not immigration. Immigration can still deny entry. I'm not the first person this has happened to and more people are being questioned and interviewed which is why I made the post as a warning. It's Thailand that's how these things go sometimes.Anonymous *************
OP@Alistair *********
thank you. Again I have nothing to gain here. I'm not trying to play a victim or anything. Just simply giving a warning that this can and does happen. I wasn't expecting it and maybe would have considered doing fast track or something if I was aware. My past history and visa is nothing out of the ordinary and many people in the same position just wanted to share my experience to help others.Alistair **********
Anonymous participant well if true I’m sorry that happened to you. I do have empathy even if I don’t believe much of what is said on the internet.
Anonymous ******************
@Alistair *********
Technically, it can happen, and it has happened to other visa holders. It is the job of immigration to ensure that you fulfill the conditions of your visa. Add to that a questionable history, and it certainly doesn’t work in your favor.AllSabai ******
@Alistair *********
his/her post doesn't state or promote any type of service or guidance to do something or use a certain service. So based.on what...you think he is a.(Salty ) Thai agent as you called him/ her ?!!!
Plus... a person faced that situation in the airport, it is so expected that he will post himself as anonymous participant.
Incognia **********
@AllSabai *****
but it means like if you have ED visa history looking like go agent better than go aloneAllSabai ******
@Incognia *********
use the safe entry fast track Is better in such cases and can save you money , Hassle, time and efforts
Anonymous *************
OP@Alistair *********
you don't have to believe me idc I'm just sharing my experience for those in similar situations. I have no motive to lie. I stayed anonymous for obvious reasons... I don't need any more trouble
Anonymous ******************
Can you share what you believe the officer asked you in Thai? Or it was just basic
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 704 currently I’m on my second year of ED, I’m married in Thai and every time I go out I go with my wife and when I come back I enter as a “Thai citizen with my wife” never had any issues or questions.
Incognia **********
Anonymous participant 704 because you are with her
James ********
This was posted FYI by
I believe this last week between Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang they denied over 1000 people (many who thought they'd just bounce out/back to milk another 60 day stamp 😮 ) Those people were shipped back out on their dime.. 😕
They have got a LOT harder on "living here on free stamp entries" since that rule change"
@Tod ********
"BEFORE the rule change in July that moved free stamp entry from 30 days to 60 days, people WERE able to stay long term bouncing out and back every 60 days and they really weren't given much scrutiny stamping in at the airports.I believe this last week between Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang they denied over 1000 people (many who thought they'd just bounce out/back to milk another 60 day stamp 😮 ) Those people were shipped back out on their dime.. 😕
They have got a LOT harder on "living here on free stamp entries" since that rule change"
Incognia **********
@James *******
there is no more embassy Tourist visa what can people do except border bounce?James ********
@Incognia *********
VERY good question ❓ The DTV visa appears to be the go to Thai Visa providing a 5 year multiple entry visa for Entry into Thailand.
Bruce ******
@James *******
I don't know the circumstances, but I have seen several farang escorted away from entry area to "office". So was guessing there was some kind of stamp or visa problem. Most were younger and I've seen a few females as well. No words exchange, no fights, no challenges...just kind of the "you need to come with me" type of escort away from the normal entry booth. I'm just standing in line. Also saw several people who I think were Chinese show a QR code on the phone while handing over PP, but none of the immigration officers seemed to care about those. Certainly didn't scan them. I have a friend who is retired immigration officer and asked him about the QR codes and he thought that was some kind of visa, but wasn't sure. Said maybe the visa is also in the passport and also in immigration system.Anonymous *************
OP@Bruce *****
I had showed the entry immigration officer my approved DTV letter with the QR code. She saw my recent student visa moved me to the office area where I was requested to do an interview.James ********
@Siggi ******
the Ed Visa needs to be cancelled by the holder at the Thai Immigration office which issued the stamp in the Passport.
Siggi *******
Anonymous participant you can activate the dtv when you are on a Ed visa
Paul *******
@James *******
They got a lot harder on people staying on endless visa exemptions/tourist visas etc years ago, that is, a couple of years before Covid (around 2017 or 2018).Things have continued to tighten up further in more recent times. However, we've been hearing of the occasional denied entry since at least 2015 and this has only intensified over the past few years except during Covid when almost no one could come in of course, and immigration was more flexible towards those stuck here.
James ********
@Paul ******
agreed 👍. As both Tod Daniels and I have stated numerous times, the Thai Immigration Officers upon your arrival appear to be more strict now than before with those who have been staying in Thailand using Visa Exempt Entry, extensions, Ed Visa and Volunteer Visas.Paul *******
@James *******
Indeed, they are getting stricter and I do agree that things have become a lot more stringent since July 2024. Just that this process started almost a decade ago; in that people living in Thailand on visa exempt stamps started to be scrutinized, especially at some of the airports and Aranyaprathet / Ranong / some of the southern borders beginning maybe around 2013-15 and this intensified in the post-Covid period.James ********
This was posted FYI by Tod Daniels
"BEFORE the rule change in July that moved free stamp entry from 30 days to 60 days, people WERE able to stay long term bouncing out and back every 60 days and they really weren't given much scrutiny stamping in at the airports.
I believe this last week between Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang they denied over 1000 people (many who thought they'd just bounce out/back to milk another 60 day stamp 😮 ) Those people were shipped back out on their dime.. 😕
They have got a LOT harder on "living here on free stamp entries" since that rule change"
"BEFORE the rule change in July that moved free stamp entry from 30 days to 60 days, people WERE able to stay long term bouncing out and back every 60 days and they really weren't given much scrutiny stamping in at the airports.
I believe this last week between Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang they denied over 1000 people (many who thought they'd just bounce out/back to milk another 60 day stamp 😮 ) Those people were shipped back out on their dime.. 😕
They have got a LOT harder on "living here on free stamp entries" since that rule change"
James ********
Likewise those who have the Ed Visa or Volunteer Visas in their passport or Thai immigration history, are more subject to be questioned by Thai Immigration Officers. They're cracking down on the fraud obtained Ed and Volunteer Visas.
แฮปปี้ *******
If you do not want to leave the country, you can renew your passport every 2 years after your student visa expires and you may transfer to a new school if your old school has completed its course.
Cameron ***********
@แฮปปี้ ******
so a 2 year course or ed visa? Then renew passport and do again?แฮปปี้ *******
This problem is common with student visas, my boyfriend had this problem but luckily he left the country with me, we came back to Thailand together and they wouldn't let my boyfriend enter the country but I talked to them and begged them, after that he was allowed to enter the country without paying any money. After that I asked the school why they did this and the school said that they often do this to student visa holders and then say that it is illegal so that they can demand money if they want to enter Thailand.
Jeremy *************
Don muang or suvanabhumi?
Sean *******
@Jeremy ************
Swampy.Greg ********
There are some facilitators/ agents offer a "Safe entry" service to those like the OP who have "Complicated Histories". Might be both cheaper and offer peace of mind.
Ning ******
go make a complaint to the head of immigration, they have cctv all over the place.
Sean *******
@Ning *****
He wanted to enter not get blacklisted.Incognia **********
@Sean ******
cant blacklist.It is impossible.Only can deport No reason for blacklist.He can sue them.Later he can enter thailand againNing ******
as his current name says it : Anonymous.. do not need to give your full name or passport etc.
Kannan **************
@Ning *****
so you want him to get deported and get arrested for bribing? LolGreg ********
@Ning *****
Really?
Cissi *********
Thank you for sharing your experience. 🙏
Everyone should be aware that a visa approval is not the same as a guaranteed entry to Thailand.
You are not the first one being tested after having an ED visa to study thai language and you won't be the last... Failing the test - making the immigration officer question if you had the previous visa for the right reason - could of course make them question if the new visa is for a legit reason as well. No matter what I think about bribes, I guess for you, it meant being allowed to enter...
Everyone should be aware that a visa approval is not the same as a guaranteed entry to Thailand.
You are not the first one being tested after having an ED visa to study thai language and you won't be the last... Failing the test - making the immigration officer question if you had the previous visa for the right reason - could of course make them question if the new visa is for a legit reason as well. No matter what I think about bribes, I guess for you, it meant being allowed to enter...
Greg ********
@Cissi ********
I have just come off a chat with Thai agent about 2 mins ago. Talked to them and another yesterday. Each of them reporting more checks like this with their clients. The Thai agents tend to be more open and honest about this than the foreign agents who charge more. They are also open about why DTaV is not liked by a certain department.Cissi *********
@Greg *******
yes, I'm not surprised at all.Greg ********
@Cissi ********
Never break a man's rice bowl in Asia!
Mat ******
I know 2 person on a tourist visa with several stamp because of boarder run.
They (one German , one UK) wanted to extend their Tourist Visa for another 30 days on different dates and both got only 1 week without explanation in PhangNga
Looks like the are getting more strict, which is not to bad…
They (one German , one UK) wanted to extend their Tourist Visa for another 30 days on different dates and both got only 1 week without explanation in PhangNga
Looks like the are getting more strict, which is not to bad…
Anonymous ******************
@Mat *****
nah it’s the sourpuss supervisor at Phang Nga immigration. Everyone who has ever had to deal with this office will know exactly who I’m referring to. She’s one of those people who when you put them in a uniform takes great pleasure of taking the p*ss out of everyone they have some power over. I always try to find out when she’s off and go that day. The other ladies are friendly and fine to deal with.
Rogerio ******
@Mat *****
which is ironic being dtv allows you to stay even longer each time.Mat ******
@Rogerio *****
true, but if you have been in Thailand before, how often did you asked your self "why?" …how often have you seen something in Thailand and asked your self, "Does it make sense? No, anyway, I accept it" 🤣
That’s the reason I took the DTV for 5 years before they maybe change it again 🤷🏼♂️
James ********
@Mat *****
yep 👍
Mike **********
hmm i am in semi similar, i had an ED visa for muay thai, left a while, came back and had work permit and visa for management at a thai business... dunno thai myself.
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submit my DTV workcation still waiting on second round of document checks, was hoping to fly in tomorrow but am extending my stay here in KUL (applied to LAX embassy and was in the US at the time of application). i have a booking out for a work trip ****
. i'm expecting to get in fairly smoothly once approved and not be shaken down for 20k...Bruce ******
@Mike *********
Instead of questions in Thai, hope they don't challenge you to a ring match? Think they still let you in, if they beat you to a pulp and kick in a few ribs? Maybe after that they give ED extension and tell you to go back for more training.Mike **********
@Bruce *****
i'm not sure you can continue to do muay thai like that actually, like they may consider you as completing the course and a graduate, even if they can still easily beat you up. the place i did it at thought i could only maybe do it again if i got issued a new passport number.
John **********
@Mike *********
you are meant to stay in the location you apply from until the visa is issuedPaul *******
@John *********
As long as you don't enter Thailand until the visa is approved its all good.Mike **********
@John *********
well that is great in theory but am i supposed to change thousands of dollars in flights because the an embassy is slow or decides to ask for more information? worst case, which would be super lame, is they deny me and i apply from KUL i guess.Mike **********
@John *********
LAX didn't get back to my on results of first doc check until ****
. i supplied them ****
, did note i had flown to tunis and then to kul. i am awaiting a response on that. i'm under the impression from others here that they have received approval while no longer in their country of application, guess i'm not super clear if they told the embassy that though. 😅 but i have. if LAX denies me i guess i will just try my luck with KUL. i've heard jakarta is "easy" and KUL is "hard" but i'm not super keen on moving and don't generally expect i should have a hard time getting in.John **********
@Mike *********
maybe I misread that you were supplying docs to KUL. If you're supplying them to LA then I assume they haven't asked you to update your location?Mike **********
@John *********
KUL isn't doing anything at the moment? not sure what you meanJohn **********
@Mike *********
you obviously didn't look at the website. The quote 15 working days plus 5 additional working days if you have to supply further information. Even with the 15 working days there's no way the process was going to complete by the 1st January (the 3rd of 3 holiday days in that period). Your very lucky KUL is accommodating youMike **********
@John *********
i applied for LAX when i was in the states based on my US address location as soon as i could. i already had other travel plans booked and figured *****
submission was good enough for an expected ****
entry. i was certainly wrong on that though.John **********
@Mike *********
no, your supposed to look at the requirements to apply via a particular consulate and abide by them. I think they pretty much all quote processing timesMike **********
i will note after my ED muay thai, i left for over 6 months, got a visa they no longer have (STV or something, some 90d one) - they made a big deal about me coming in that time. they couldn't quiz me on thai but asked for muay thai proof at one point so i teeped the female officer across the desk. actually i showed some videos i had then they said they didn't want to fight me so all was good. still took forever though, i had to eventually sign something about leaving in 90d. although i switched visa types and stayed at that point. i do think ED language is likely to result in them being the most skeptical and testing people.
Anonymous ******************
The giveaway was that you couldn't spell "border" correctly! 😆😆
Anonymous *************
OPAnonymous participant 197 please get over it you get the point.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 197 I see so much of this. As a pedants it gets my hackles up like Your and You're lol
Wobbly *****
@Greg *******
give me a brakeRogerio ******
@Greg *******
I do see a lot of boarder must be autocorrectGreg ********
@Rogerio *****
Never thought of that. It could well be. Not just this site but all over the web.Greg ********
Where was your entry points-BKK?
Anonymous *************
OP@Greg *******
BKK airportAndi ***********
Anonymous participant Wonder why they tested your language on a Workcation DTV and a short time as a student.
Andi ***********
@Wannikea ********
I see . Yeah, unlikely no receipt for paying for drinks n lunch for the month.
Wannikea *********
@Andi **********
they want to see if he complied with the previous ED visa by actually learning Thai, he seemed to allude that it was a bit of a failure, and so they pulled the 20,000 baht rabbit out of their hat. I'm guessing the OP did not get a receipt.Greg ********
Anonymous participant Thanks. Good info. At least you got in even if it cost you.
Stefan ******
Sounds like border scam. Why would they ask Thai language skills, that's totally irrelevant? What was your point of entry?
Anonymous *************
OP@Stefan *****
I guess because I came off a student visa recently and they said alot of people just get the ED visa to stay in the country longer and wanted to know why I wanted to be in Thailand for so long.Stefan ******
Anonymous participant Ok, that makes sense. If it was only to extract another 20k from you, it's still a scam tho. But probably not much you can do about it.
Anonymous *************
OP@Stefan *****
exactly and can't say i don't have the money when you have to prove 500k baht for the DTVGreg ********
@Stefan *****
Asked his Thai skills from his previous time on Ed Visa learning Thai.
Mateusz *******
Which border was that ?
Anonymous *************
OP@Mateusz ******
it was at BKK airport
Jacob *******
Anonymous participant would you mind sharing your passport country?
Greg ********
2 agents I have spoken to recently have said their clients had been reporting lots of questions at entry. For you it looks like using tourist and then ED to live in Thailand. Interesting about the Thai questions from the Ed visa though.
Winston ************
@Greg *******
Haha, are there agents who say anything good about the DTV, unless you're paying them?Greg ********
@Winston ***********
Some off the record. I have found the Thai ones more open and honest. Known a couple of them years. One I first used in 2017. Her husband drinks in same bar as me and we have many mutual friends. She does not touch DTV and wants nothing to do with itGreg ********
@Winston ***********
I agree agents are surplus to requirements for the vast majority of applicants. It seems some need them though and are paying non-Thai agents a lot of money for the DTV ie 90k THB up. This might just bite them on their ar5se in the future when asked for documentation and they cannot provide it and agent long gone.Winston ************
@Greg *******
Of course she doesn't touch it, given the requirement is for the applicant to be outside TH to apply for it. The VAST majority of applicants don't need an agent for that.Andi ***********
@Greg *******
Those are the ones that seem to be getting the grillings on entry.Greg ********
@Andi **********
Literally just chatting online to agent now about this. Said exactly same. They offer a "Safe entry" service for those with "Complicated history" lolGreg ********
@Cissi ********
They can but they can also demand an onward flight or return within the 180 days. Just another box to tick.Cissi *********
@Greg *******
like the OP mentioned on another comment - people can't really say they don't have the money (for a bribe or a flight out), since they recently proved having access to 500k... So I think the airlines can feel pretty safe bringing DTV'ers.Greg ********
@AllSabai *****
Ask AI lolAllSabai ******
@Greg *******
correct explanation.Greg ********
Anonymous participant Denied entry" means you were not allowed to enter a country at the border, usually due to issues with your documentation or eligibility, while "deported" means you were removed from a country after already being allowed entry, typically because you violated immigration laws or committed a crime within the country; essentially, denied entry happens at the point of arrival, while deportation occurs after you've already been admitted to the country
AllSabai ******
Anonymous participant at the airport immigration it is
Because they send you to the country where your flight come from
So it is deporting
Because they send you to the country where your flight come from
So it is deporting
Greg ********
Anonymous participant Denied entry. Deportation is more formal. It is being a bit pedantic but easier to get back in after being denied entry in first place than deported from somewhere.
Anonymous *************
OP@AllSabai *****
yes, if you can't be let into a country and have to go back the way you came is that not being deported?Greg ********
@AllSabai *****
If he has no money the airline who brought them in has to take them back. I think we might see more airlines be tighter with the DTV visa like some are with visa exempt etcAllSabai ******
@Greg *******
they use this word because usually they deporting him to where the flight of his arrival came from And they ask him to book a flight to that country , happened before
Greg ********
@AllSabai *****
I was going to get pedantic about poster saying "Deported". He would be denied entry and not deported. Cannot be deported of not let in :-)AllSabai ******
@Andi **********
those who don't like it , keep missing with the stamps and in and out and misuse the privilege of visa exemption and the Non-Immigrant then they want just to jump these all like nothing happened, Can try their destiny, but when they spend 4 to 6 hours in the interview and investigation and get asked for 20k as the owner of this post is claiming, that time no need to complain ka 😃
Greg ********
@Andi **********
I cannot say here in open what agent been telling me but correct.Andi ***********
@Greg *******
Nice name - "Safe entry "Service. The complicated entrants are the new cash cows.
Anonymous ******************
wait you can stil be rejected under dtv??? 😮
Anonymous ******************
The DTV is not a "red carpet pass" granting guaranteed entry without questions or rejection. 🫤 The same applies to all visa types and exemptions.
John **********
Anonymous participant 740 of course. You can be denied entry on any visa or none
Anonymous *************
OPAnonymous participant 740 apparently because the DTV is approved by the Embassy. Immigration issues it. It's seperate departments and they seemed frustrated that so many DTV were being approved and they had no access to the documentation
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant Exactly they can't milk it much... 🤫
Greg ********
Anonymous participant Nail on the head.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 740 Of course you can. The MFA websites makes this clear as did the MFA guy in the FCCT interview. Immigration have final say over entry and extensions at any time.
Tanja ********
Thank you for sharing 🙏 may I ask where did you enter?
Anonymous *************
OP@Tanja *******
BKK airportTanja ********
Anonymer Teilnehmer thank you!
Anonymous ******************
Thats why I'm getting a new passport first. Sounds like a scam...
James ********
Anonymous participant 338 that trick no longer works. Facial recognition software and fingerprints are USED by Thai Immigration Officers upon arrival into Thailand to 🆔 identify your history of Thai immigration.
Stefan ********
Anonymous participant 338 Doesn't change anything. I did that 2 years ago and the officer could see ALL my previous stamps. He even asked me where my old passport was and why I changed it.
James ********
@Stefan *******
Yep 👍Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 338 Don't forget to change your fingerprints and get plastic surgery on your face, because your biometrics are in the system 😂😂
Greg ********
Anonymous participant 338 What about your fingerprints? It is not so easy to appear as a completely new person as it used to upon entry
Alex *******
I'm interested to know what did they say to get you to pay them 20k?
Anonymous *************
OP@Alex ******
they denied my entry and threatened deportation if I didn't pay. It was at BKK airport immigration. Once getting to immigration they moved me to be interviewedRogerio ******
Anonymous participant what was the reason? Did you get a receipt?
Cinn ********
Anonymous participant How was the staff look like? Like male/ female , old?
Jirka ********
Anonymní účastník yes, 100% border scam, nothing more
Todd *********
@Jirka *******
it’s not a scam, it’s the simple reality. He played with fire. And got burned. It happensSean *******
Should have got a new passport before applying for the DTV.
Phil ********
A new passport does not help.
End. Of. Story.
End. Of. Story.
Incognia **********
@Phil *******
helping believe meSean *******
@Phil *******
Did. For. Me.Winston ************
@Sean ******
Thailand records biometrics, which would match to the same person regardless of passport. That's why they scan your fingerprints at the IO counter at the airport.Sean *******
@Winston ***********
Well getting a new passport worked for me. That's all the knowledge I have about it. I don't claim to know everything they have in the "SYSTEM".Anonymous *************
OP@Sean ******
i would have never thought it would be an issue since I had proper studen visa and dtv approval. They only seemed to question my ED visa never mentioned the tourists stamps.Rogerio ******
Anonymous participant if you have an edu visa you can’t even apply for an elite visa which costs 500,000thb, so they definitely have some issue with Edu.
On that note I did have an edu visa during initially covid but I got the dtv on soft power easily and just recently re entered Thailand 10 days ago, no questions but I was traveling with my Thai gf.
On that note I did have an edu visa during initially covid but I got the dtv on soft power easily and just recently re entered Thailand 10 days ago, no questions but I was traveling with my Thai gf.
Sean *******
Anonymous participant The visa exemption stamps wouldn't have helped either. They're clamping down on that now too.
Todd *********
@Sean ******
‘clamping down’…. On what exactly. They have been ‘clamping down’ since the internet started and people with no clue could offer opinions to the massesGreg ********
@Sean ******
They have your details from old passport too. It is all in the chip these days. Might have worked 25 years ago. EDIT. What about your pic and fingerprints taken upon entry too?Incognia **********
@Greg *******
Totally different.Visas being in old passport not same visas being on system.Sean *******
@Greg *******
Worked for me with my dodgy volunteer visa. I would have got denied entry or pay tea money like the OP.Greg ********
@Incognia *********
And that is what they do. They pull you out and send you to more senior officer in an office. Exactly the same as everywhere else in the world.Incognia **********
@Greg *******
normal immigration officer in counter cant see more than 6 entries.They should send you to other officers.Sean *******
@Greg *******
They would have been if they saw it in my passport. My agent said it gave lots of her customers problems. Get a new passport.Greg ********
@Sean ******
They would still have your volunteer visa details. Entry IO just not bothered about it.Activity
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