Why am I being interrogated by Thai immigration despite having a valid DTV visa?

Jan 6, 2025
9 days ago
Harvey ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
Australian citizen, just used my DTV for my second entry into Thailand.

Both times I've been interrogated about my accomodation in Thailand, and this time the immigration officer seemed quite hostile and asked me for exit date, if I have a Thai wife, if I live in Cambodia (that's the consulate I asked for my DTV), what was I doing in Cambodia, and if I'm working in Thailand.

Could I be doing something wrong to attract all this attention? I don't mind a few questions, but I thought I'd got a valid visa in accordance with Thai immigration rules.

So far it has caused more scrutiny than just using a visa waiver.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
An Australian citizen with a DTV visa reports experiencing heightened scrutiny during their immigration process upon entering Thailand for the second time. The immigration officer asked about accommodation, exit dates, and connections to Cambodia, leading the individual to question if they are doing something wrong. Comments from the community suggest that such scrutiny can be normal, regardless of visa validity, and might simply be procedural rather than indicative of any personal issues. Experiences shared by others highlight varying levels of questioning by immigration officers and the importance of adhering to Thai immigration rules and processes.
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Kirilly **********
Suvarnabhumi is renowned for heavy scrutiny. Is that the airport you came in by?
Alessandro **********
You may be questionned for multiple reasons.

The same I have been, being back to my own country by french immigration. They have process / check with basic questions to ensure you are not hiding something.

I think it doesn't have anything to do with if you are welcome or not in the country. They don't really care of you as a person because they see millions everyday..

That's my opinion
Greg ********
@Alessandro *********
True. I got the 3rd Degre from UK Immigration entering the UK for a meeting at the HQ of one of the largest British companies. I worked for them at the time and they had posted me to Singapore. I was a 55 years old Brisish citizen and had never held any other passport and if it matters, as lily white as they come.
Greg ********
The same idiot of a border entry officer had a Singaporean lady in front of me in tears. She was there to visit her daughter at Oxford University. Was in the fast stream as we both came off Singapore Airlines Business Class. She was hardly the type to overstay her visa and try to claim UK benefits
Abhishek *******
I think it's valid for 5 years but they don't want u to live in thailand all the time
Greg ********
@Abhishek ******
Same as with other visas and visa exempt. The Immigration Officer has discretion at the end of the day. They have leeway in interpreting the policy. Some people got away with living in Thailand on Visa Exempt while others pulled up about it and told to sort out a visa.
Rusty ******
I entered Thailand in December on DTV, I'm an Aussie as well, applied for DTV out of Sydney and arrived in DMK. No problems, no questions asked, straight through. The immigration officer did hit up the guy before me asking how ling his stay would be. Maybe you're just unlucky and you were the 'random' person they'd scrutinize.
Dennis ************
I have the DTV as well immigration always hostile towards me.
Harvey ************
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@Dennis ***********
Sorry to hear that. I don't need a hug on the way in but it's no fun feeling like your presence is not wanted.
Kevin **********
Yea, what were you doing in Cambodia HARVEY? If that's even your real name. Hey this is fun, where do I apply?
Harvey ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
You're hired!
Kevin **********
@Harvey ***********
Seriously, and I get a cool uniform?
Cylckah ******
What kind of answer were they looking for in relation to your accommodation?
Harvey ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Cylckah *****
Since it was the second time they asked, I had my condo lease scanned on my phone and showed that. It seemed to spark more suspicion, rather than help.
Cylckah ******
@Harvey ***********
hmmm interesting. I wonder if they would have been happier with a hotel or something?
Elías ********
That's very uncommon. The only thing I can think is if you had some immigration violations in your history? When entering on the DTV, me, as most of the people, don't get even a single word.
Anonymous ******************
@Elías *******
It can happen. Anyone could be subject to it, regardless of the visa or exemption they hold. I was questioned twice during 12 years of stay with a legitimate visa, no violation and no overstay.
Sean *******
You left Cambodia before you were approved? Looks like it might have caused a problem
Harvey ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
So would I be best to get this visa dissolved and reapply once I'm out of the country again?
Greg ********
@Harvey ***********
No do not cancel it.
Biff *******
@Harvey ***********
you can’t get it ‘dissolved’. Just use it now you’ve got it. You got admitted on both entries, albeit with a bit of scrutiny, so it’s still viable for you to use it.
James ********
@Harvey ***********
where did you try to enter Thailand ? By land border crossing? Poi Pet Or by Air ✈️
Harvey ************
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@James *******
I flew into Suvarnabumi.
Henrik *****
Then you should apply from a country, in which you have a real resident status ( permanent adress ) and not try using loopholes again.
Helen ********
@Henrik ****
your comment makes no sense.
@Harvey ***********
did not use a loophole. He legally applied at an official Thai embassy in the country he was physically located in at the time. They accepted his application so he met their requirements and was officially granted his visa. His entry stamp was accepted as proof of residency by the embassy, just like Vietnam, Taiwan and other nearby countries accept entry stamps or hotel bookings. Nowhere on the Thai embassy in Phnom Penh site does it state "a real residential status" is required for this embassy. The ones that require that, state it on the embassy information site. Based on your comment you are impling that those who did not apply at their "home countries" embassies used a loophole which is not factual.
Harvey ************
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@Henrik ****
I didn't see it as a loophole. I was already traveling when the DTV launched, so used the consulate closest to me. Phnom Penh allows it; they don't require resident status.

As a "digital nomad" (which is whom, I understand, my flavour of the visa is for), being physically present in my "home" country is pretty rare. If this is a requirement, I didn't understand that when I applied, and tbh am still not sure it makes sense for this particular kind of visa.
Sean *******
@Harvey ***********
I don't know mate, everything is new with this visa. Maybe wait and see what happens to others who have done the same. You might have just been unlucky with the IOs upto now.
Harvey ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
I suppose that could be the case. Thanks, hadn't considered that.
Sean *******
Mo ******
@Sean ******
yes ok that is probably the reason!
Sean *******
@Mo *****
And because a lot of people have done this they will probably start checking everyone. And worse case scenario is they start cancelling their visas.
Mo ******
@Sean ******
yes you are really supposed to stay until the visa is granted. If you start by not respecting the law, then I can understand they may have a bad image of you
Harvey ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
I do respect the law. I was in Cambodia 16 days and thought it'd be enough time to get the DTV approved, otherwise I'd have had to wait until this recent trip back to Australia to do it. After a couple of delays on my side the DTV was approved on the same day I returned to Thailand. I thought it would be as valid as any other visa, but now I can see how it might look weird to an immigration agent.
Adam ********
@Harvey ***********
I doubt the IO will look back over more than a few entries into the kingdom, should be fine next time.
Mo ******
@Harvey ***********
you were in a sort of grey area now I hope it will not cause you further problems
Sean *******
@Harvey ***********
The problem is people think because it's Evisa application so they don't hand over their passport. That it's alright to travel back in before approval which would be impossible if they applied in person.
Mo ******
@Sean ******
I did walk in embassy so I had to wait anyway. In Jakarta at the time
Harvey ************
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@Sean ******
Yeah I did.
Greg ********
@Harvey ***********
If it is this it may be the first immigration officer has entered a remark in the system. It happened to a pal on another visa but he did squiggle something illegible in his passport too. A visit to a local friendly immigration office had the remark removed from the system.
Sean *******
@Harvey ***********
So the IO has seen you were in Thailand when the visa was issued.
Tommy ********
The immigration is separate from the visa.
Ning ******
Go post in bangkok post, if they have any news regarding tourist or visa. (they had a new io in nov, so some might be in the mood to snap.)
Mo ******
@Ning *****
what is io?
Ning ******
@Mo *****
immigration officers
Wannikea *********
You didn't say where exactly you entered, Poipet?
Sean *******
What category did you apply under?
Harvey ************
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@Sean ******
Digital nomad / remote worker
Greg ********
Seems strange - I am assuming there are no previous black marks on your immigration record? My pal had one put on at Swampy over too many Visa Exempt in a year - he went with Thai partner to local immigration office upcountry and had it removed for a facilitation fee!
Harvey ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg *******
Not that I'm aware of. I've always followed the rules as a regular tourist. I've only tried to stay longer term in Thailand recently, hence the DTV.
Anonymous ******************
@Harvey ***********
what are a list of things that would be considered a black mark by Thai Immigration?

I've had a few accidental overstays of 1-2 days on my tourist visa in Thailand - due to complete accident as I was recovering from mental health and grief my first year and did not realise.

I also forgot to declare my TM30 24 hours within landing as this was always an automatic process done for me when I lived in a condo, and now I live in a house so I was totally unaware.

I've had to sign multiple declarations that I have offended and pay a small fine to immigration. Although, I've always been let back in and they don't seem to mind too much.

However when it comes to the DTV I see how this could be a problem...

Are there considered 'black marks'... and is there a list of what else these ominous black marks are 😨 lol.

I'm trying my utmost best to abide by all rules but it can get awfully confusing at times.
Greg ********
@Harvey ***********
Strange one then. You probably have just been unlucky with Immigration Officers being fussy. I once had one pointing out my 2 year BOI Visa was expiring in 6 months and if I wanted to stay longer it would need to be renewing. Waste of both our time being Captain Obvious
Julien ****
This is a normal process. When I immigrated to Canada, I faced similar situations. Obtaining a Visa does not guarantee entry in the country. It is always at the discretion of the officer. They are just doing their job and cooperating like you do is the way to go.
Kaia ******
@Julien ***
how on earth does a visa not guarantee entry to the country? That's the whole point of the visa... unless there's some issue with the previous visits - ie overstaying a visa or any other offences that the officer can see on the screen.
Shane *****
@Kaia *****
read . it really is universal rule and the custom officer really did has absolute power to admit or deny entry, even if you hold a rock solid visa.
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Kaia ******
@Shane ****
These are tourists, not long term visa holders. There are very limited reasons to refuse entry for LONG TERM visa holders who have set up their lives in the respective countries.
Angelo ***********
@Kaia *****
If an immigration officer lets you enter Thailand: is completely up to his/her decision. Visa or no visa. Completely up to him/her.
Harvey ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Angelo **********
For all intents and purposes, you're probably right.

I think you might get away with asking politely for a second opinion if the reason for refusal is in question, but a second officer might tend to just back up the original.

In this case, the officer voluntarily called for a supervisor and, although I don't speak enough Thai to understand the exchange, the supervisor appeared to explain the visa to the io and nodded to me to reassure me my visa was valid and there was no problem.

The original io didn't ask any further questions and just stamped me through.
Shane *****
@Kaia *****
as far as custom officers are concerned their power are the as above..you can.keep arguing and i hope you argue with the custom officer next time you faced such issue and see how far you get
Kaia ******
@Shane ****
That's not the point. Obviously a heated argument with a custom officer won't yield a good result. My point is that as a long term visa holder, there are very limited reasons why you should be refused an entry, and these are reasons are generally related to previous visa (or any other serious) offences. That applies to any democratic and liberal country.
Anonymous ******************
@Kaia *****
It allows you staying longer than other visa exemptions. It doesn't give you a guaranteed entry if you don't fulfill entry conditions and visa requirements.
Julien ****
@Kaia *****
A visa does not guarantee entry. This is a universal rule eventhough the chances of refusal are minimal. It was like this for Canada and it is like that for Thailand.
Kris ***********
You got the visa but it’s no guarantee of entry.
Anonymous ******************
@Kris **********
Correct. It's about length of stay authorized and recognition of your status in Thailand (worker, married, student, etc.). That's all.
Chris **********
Prob being an Aussie citizen getting your DTV from Cambodia mate. Who cares if you get 20 questions if you're in right?