How long can I stay in Thailand on a tourist visa while looking for a teaching job?

Mar 18, 2024
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Catherine ***********
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Just starting this adventure so excuse me if I seem ignorant….

I’m under the impression that interviewing for jobs (I’m a teacher -not TEFL, I am an actual Elementary Teacher in Missouri) and looking for properties to rent is best done on ’the ground,’ with some planning beforehand on-line. So say I find a place but it takes awhile to find a job? How long can I stay on a tourist visa. I know I have to renew it every 90 days- but can that just be done indefinitely???
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A tourist visa for Thailand allows an initial stay of 60 days, which can be extended for an additional 30 days for around 1,900 baht. However, it's essential to note that while tourist visa extensions can be done, they cannot be used indefinitely, and repeated visa runs may be necessary after the extension. For teaching jobs, securing employment before relocating is advisable, as most international schools begin hiring in the winter months for the following school year. Engaging with local real estate for rentals is beneficial for scouting suitable living conditions once you arrive.
Alison **********
There is plenty of negativity in the comments here. I came to Thailand in November that is in the middle of school terms and found a teaching position in Bangkok within a week. There might not be that many position available as during the so called hiring window but it is not impossible.

In terms of accommodation, I found a monthly Airbnb rental which is great as it does not require you to commit with a lease, it is all inclusive and does not require a deposit. It gives you the balance between stability and flexibility.
Catherine ***********
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@Alison *********
good to know! Thanks
Angelik *******
If you want to get a job, start now. You can apply online and see what happens. The new school year starts in may,there still will be some vacancies, but not many. You can get a job for a year and then find a better one later. It's better to start like this, because you will get non b visa and won't have to think about extending your tourist visa. Thailand doesn't allow as many border runs and extensions as it used to.
Catherine ***********
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@Angelik ******
bc I’m moving with kids area/neighborhood/church family is all just too important for me. I really want to make sure all those things are right before committing, and I can’t from Missouri 🤷🏼‍♀️
Angelik *******
@Catherine **********
yes, but sometimes things just work out. When I was looking for a job in Thailand, I wanted to live on Koh Samui, but it's hard to find a job there. So, I decided I will settle for any place that will have a job for me. I was looking at some vacancies and came across a city that I liked, it was not on an island,but with a sea nearby. I wasn't sure if I can find a school there, so I was applying to many schools in different parts of Thailand. But in the end it worked out and I ended up in that city in the south. I still had to overcome some job related issues after I arrived, and was unemployed for a few months, but finally found a good school. Start by deciding if you want to live in Bangkok or an island or some other area. Some people like Bangkok, because it has everything you might need, including a lot of foreigners living there, but it's also very big, very busy and industrial and very hot (different kind of hot, like concrete sauna hot kinda way).
Catherine ***********
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@Angelik ******
thanks for the advice! I DO know that I’d rather be out a ways from Bangkok. I think I’d like the Krabi area. I hear that up north it’s cheaper and jobs are more plentiful, but I really do want to be near the sea.
Angelik *******
@Catherine **********
well, I don't know about north, but any city in Thailand that doesn't have many tourists is cheap and Thai people do not try to give you a double price just because you're a foreigner.
Zoe ******
Rentals are done on the ground for sure. We contacted agents a few months before our move and every agent said it's too soon. Even with a dog we found a place within a month of moving here. It's also better to get to know the city in person before deciding what area you want to live in.
Catherine ***********
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@Zoe *****
i’m so glad to hear that about the dog because that’s my next thing is figuring out how to move with the dogs and the cat and two kids! 
Zoe ******
@Catherine **********
what city are you moving to? How many pets? Pet friendly rentals are definitely harder to find, but not impossible.
Catherine ***********
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@Zoe *****
city depends on my job/daughters school/sons Muay Thai gym….. short answer is ‘we don’t know yet’! I’m planning on leaving the pets w my family and having them sent once I have an appropriate place. It’s going to be hard enough moving as a single mom (I don’t know anyone there and I’m not leaving my daughter with a stranger- seriously don’t know how I’m going to remedy this issue, but I’m not giving up!).
Henning **********
Easiest way would be to attend a TEFL course with a company that will also transfer you to a school. It will cost a bit and you'll earn less but your papers will be in order and you won't have to worry about not finding a job or getting in trouble with your visa
Terary **********
@Henning *********
I did this for the first six months that I taught. After my debt was paid I stayed on for another 1.5 years. They had some issues with the work permits/visas. The laws changed and the paperwork had to be redone. They already had a shortage of teachers and wanted us to work without proper paperwork and do visa runs on weekends.

All in all, I would do it again, but I would also have a plan B. In the first six months I would recommend finding a direct hire (skip the agency). Most/many agencies pay for only the time you teach so you make no income during long breaks. Schools don't do that. Also, agents are there to make a buck which can lead to problems.
Catherine ***********
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@Terary *********
thanks for that advice bc I felt that way (read some great articles by expat teachers about the advantages of job shopping in country, AND the agency thing just seems like a money grab to me) but good to know it’s not just me! I’ve had some people say ‘definitely have a job lined up before you go!’, but then I’ve read so much that says there’s many schools that will not hire you unless you are in country already. I feel like I’d be more comfortable actually seeing the school I was going to teach at and making decisions after meeting some of the other staff 👍
Catherine ***********
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@Henning *********
I don’t need a TEFL bc I have a teaching certificate in the state of Missouri. My degree is actually in Elementary Education. A TEFL is a course to certify you as an English teacher in a foreign country with any Bachelors degree, and it’s just for teaching English language classes. * this is the info I’ve gotten from several TEFL websites
Henning **********
@Catherine **********
you're absolutely right. The reason for my recommendation was not because of the TEFL but because many agencies that offer TEFL courses can transfer you to schools all around Thailand and also take care of the visa. At the same time, doing a TEFL in Thailand has its perks because they know how teaching at thai schools work and can prepare you for that.
Luca ******
@Henning *********
can i link me to any agency where yo get my tefl please?
Henning **********
@Luca *****
entrust tefl Thailand is great, just search them in Facebook or Google
Catherine ***********
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Terary **********
A few words for your benefit.

Regardless what they say or what you read, you extend your visa stamp, not your visa. In this context there is little difference, but when you start looking at options to stay and "visa expire" and "permitted to stay", you will find it less confusing if you think about "permission to stay" (which is the stamp, you get when the immigration officer puts it in your passport).

You can extend your stamp (permission to stay) + 30 days on many tourist option (visa or visa exempt).

You're nationality matters, some people won't recognize "Misery" is a US state and therefore may give you advice for a different nationality.

You are permitted to come visa exempt by land, twice a year. There is no limit if flying. However, there is no law that guarantees they will let you in, most likely they will but they are not required... You are a guest.

I have done may back-to-back visa runs, very few visa exempts. You can likely stay in Thailand until you find your dream job, you will have to do visa runs or border bounces.

The school "should" help you with the visa but not all do. I have known people who've taught for a few years on various different visas (ED, does not stand for erectile dysfunction), back to back tourist visa, etc. etc. Where there is a will there is a away.

I am not sure about your age but getting a teaching job 45+ can be a tricky.

You can likely find some half-way decent teaching jobs online (find the job online, not teach online, well that too).

My advice to you.. Get an METV and do border bounces for the first nine months or until you find a better plan. (METV = Multiple Entry Tourist Visa).
Catherine ***********
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@Terary *********
thanks for all that info! And really??… don’t recognize MO as a state?! 😂 I mean, I’m actually from Iowa if that helps any, lol! And I’m 43. But good to note about the age. Can I ask why?… I FEEL like retirement is forever away, ugghh
Kool *******
@Catherine **********
a few details that are very relevant. First look at ajarn.com website. This lists requirements, and job openings for teaching. Your son will need his own visa, and unless he is a recognized professional expert, with a following, he won't get a job in any gym. Be fully aware of the cost of international schools for your daughter, as the tuition will, in most cases, be more monthly than you make in wages teaching. International schools receive no funding from the government, and are for profit businesses. If you get a job at a good international school then they usually allow your child to attend there free, or at greatly reduced cost. If you enroll her someplace else expect a monthly tuition cost of from bt60,000-bt110,000 a month. With a teaching degree, and having completed your Masters degree, with 5+ years of formal teaching experience, you are valuable to good international schools, and not just to teach English. At the very least you will need your degree certified as being real in order to get the required work permit. Read through the ajarn website. They are the experts in this field.
Catherine ***********
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@Kool ******
thank you! Yes, I’ve been looking at Ajarn, I’ve seen quite a few listings. Not all really high paying, but again, I’m willing to take what I get to get started. And yes! I’ve seen that tuition for my daughter will be about $1000-$800-$800 per year (that’s not the most expensive int’l school obviously, and that’s without a discount if I can bring her where I work). I DO have some social security income (I’m a widow), it’s not a lot, but it’s enough to keep us afloat if I have a low paying job that first year. Am I correct in seeing these 2 bdrm apartments for like $300/mo.?!
Terary **********
I would be a little concerned $300/mo for 2 bedroom. I pay $500-$600 for a 1000 sqft condo near the ocean (Pattaya). The other gotcha is transportation. You can find some really great deals far from public transportation, so you spend a lot on transportation both money and time.
Catherine ***********
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@Terary *********
$500-600 for a condo on the beach?! I’m not signing anything until I get there, but from what I see online that’s really reasonable. The 2bdrm’s I’m talking about were in Thalang area- and probably not the most desirable area there.
Terary **********
@Catherine **********
You're considering Phuket? Beautiful place. Transportation will be a hassle. So you will want to live near school or learn to ride a motorcycle. Cars are ok but they go VERY SLOW.

Koh Tao, may not have many teaching jobs but its a great place with few roads so little traffic.
Catherine ***********
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@Terary *********
oh there are so many places I think about moving to! I AM thinking maybe Krabi now; however a teaching job is necessary as the Social Security income I have is not a lot. Am I correct that scooters are an inexpensive, albeit kinda dangerous, way to go??
Terary **********
@Catherine **********
The more foolish a person, the more dangerous the motorcycle (scooter). In places like Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, the drivers are more dangerous. In the smaller villages and quieter parts of Thailand the scooter is pretty safe, you need to learn how to drive them (don't us your front break in the rain, try to go slow and straight through sand) etc. At 30km/hr its about the same as riding a bike. Its easier to fall of the bike.

I bought my motorcycle (scooter) second hand $1500/US. At the time it was 1 or 2 years old. Its' lasted me 9 years and going strong. I put about $6.00/US in the tank ever couple of weeks. Maybe 4-5 hours riding time. I am not sure but it's super cheap.
Catherine ***********
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@Terary *********
awesome! I grew up on a farm and we had motocross bikes, so I know how to ride 👍 More worried about getting the hang of the Left side of the road, and watching out for other drivers! I REALLY don’t want to be in a busy area, but I’ll need to take what I get that first year (job/ inexpensive accommodations) and learn my way around and which areas I really like, and then have more/better options that 2nd year 😊
Terary **********
@Catherine **********
With motorcycles we don't actually drive down the left/right side of the road.. Just whatever works. No joke people drive on the wrong side of the road all the time, its a regular practice. Cars a little better but it's not uncommon to see cars driving down the wrong side of the road. The golden rule is "no harm no foul" so people don't get upset when there is a "near accident". It can be a hair-raising experience at first. You will be fine. You have the basic skills (and more probably).

Sounds like you have a good plan, step 1) arrive and figure out step 2. That's how I did it.
Catherine ***********
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@Terary *********
thanks for the encouragement! Some say I need more planning in advance, but it makes more sense that being there in person is the way to go. Especially since we can stay at a VERY inexpensive hostel till we find what we need. It seems affordable to do that there- not like here with hotels or even AirBnB’s being at least $89-$100/ night. And I’ve been warned that I definitely SHOULD SEE things first hand bc SE Asian ideas of a ‘kitchen’ for instance, aren’t the same as Westerners expectations. I’m easy! I’d be okay with a traditional outdoor kitchen! But, ya, gotta have one ☝️
Christine *******
You need to have a job nailed down first! The hiring season for international schools (with the start of a new school year being August) is December-February/early March. I'm afraid you've missed the window for next school year. Once you know where your school is, and you've signed a contract, THEN you can start searching online for short-term rentals near your school. Do not commit to anything long-term until you've seen it in person. You also need to consider transportation. Unless you're in Bangkok, public transportation (at least for a non-Thai speaking person) is pretty much nonexistent. Cars are expensive here compared to everything else. Outside of Bangkok, essential businesses are really spread out and walking or riding bicycles is unsafe or impossible due to lack of sidewalks, poor driving, and oppressive heat.
Catherine ***********
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@Christine ******
This is what I thought, but after reading a lot more, it seems that lots of schools WILL interview if I’m there and have the documentation/certification they need. Also, I do have income that we can live on till I start work. Am I completely wrong?? Are there not openings throughout the year if I’m flexible about where I’m going, and willing to work as an assistant etc.? Bc that’s even possible here in the states.

And ya, I read that looking at places in person is pretty much essential- especially with kids in tow.
Christine *******
@Catherine **********
The better schools will be fully staffed (outside of the hiring window) and will have no need to conduct interviews unless someone quits mid-contract, which DOES happen, but I wouldn't advise counting on that. As a Westerner, you can't be hired as a teacher's assistant; that's one of the "restricted" jobs only for Thai people. FYI, some schools will pay for your flight here if you're hired from abroad (which is where most new hires are hired from), and any school worth working at will do all the paperwork for your one-year visa AND any dependents that come with you.
Robert *****
@Catherine **********
I wish you the best. You might have a problem with your 19 year old son as far as getting a long term visa. He’s an adult and that could be an issue. Try to do most things on the Thai immigration website very early. You’re too young for a retirement visa and unless you marry a Thai man, a marriage visa isn’t going to happen. 50 years old is the age that they are looking for. I can only speak for Bangkok, my Thai citizen wife who is also a US citizen after I married her in Southern California 15 years ago. She kept dragging me to Thailand for our vacations and I fell in love with the people. I can share my thoughts. Get the idea about driving out of your head. Cabs are not expensive, the BTS trains are fast, on time, clean and inexpensive. They are elevated. (Speaking for Bangkok only kid) so I have a house in Huntington Beach just south of Long Beach. I commute to Bangkok a few times a year. My wife stays permanently in Bangkok and is always busy selling her clothes. We have a Condo next door to Fashion Island Mall, this enormous 3 block long Mall in Bangkok. BTS is right there for her travels all over Bangkok. There are two prices in Bangkok. A Farang price (you, me, westerners, tourists) and a Thai price. When we were hunting for a condo I called around and was quoted 18,000 baht. When my wife called she was quoted 9,000 baht. Same condo. So our rent is $258 USD per month. Modern condo, balcony, underground parking, dual AC. Sweet place. Electric is $28 per month running the AC on most days. So make a Thai friend to secure lower prices for yourself. I’am in California now until later this year. Stay safe.
Mel ******
Check out search associates and get a real teaching job at an intl school
Catherine ***********
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@Mel *****
that’s the plan! Bc I hold a degree in Ed., not just any Bach. degree and then a TEFL course, I believe I have a pretty good shot at a job at at least a tier 2 int’l school. But I’m willing to take what I get at first. I can always strive to do a really good job and then apply for a new/better school after that 🤷🏼‍♀️ Honestly, the job is a means to an end (of course I care about my students and will always do my best), and I’m moving bc I’m not getting any younger and I want to! Also, what an adventure, and what valuable life experience, this will be for my children! (My 19 yo son is also going to accompany me -he’s an MMA fighter and wants to study Muay Thai with the best for a year. If he can land a good job at a reputable gym, he may stay too!
Johnny ******
@Catherine **********
you said you were not a TEFL teacher
Christine *******
@Catherine **********
Your son won't be able to work at a gym. The list of jobs that Westerners can legally hold here is quite short, unless you own a business and can employ Thai people. Someone posted a list of the restricted jobs in this group recently. It's worth looking at.
Catherine ***********
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@Christine ******
ah! Good to know. Darn it. Looks like he’ll be living on Mom’s dime 🙄 lol.
Mel ******
@Catherine **********
the intl schools usually start hiring for aug jobs starting in October of the previous year. I highly recommend joining search associates database
Catherine ***********
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@Mel *****
already done! And that’s actually where I saw that there are occasional jobs throughout the year. Especially if I’m not ‘stuck’ in a specific city. But thank you for the advice! I’m all ears for advice right now!
Luigi ***********
@Catherine **********
I recommend you to contact International schools in Phuket.....

BISP

HEADSTART

BCIS

KIS

FINWAY

OAK MEADOW

QSI

UWC Thailand

MONTESSORI
Catherine ***********
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@Luigi **********
I looked at all those! I have to say, I was amazed at some of the campuses 👀! I’d REALLY like for my daughter to attend the Finnish school- love their teaching model. However I’d feel a lot more comfortable with her being in the same building as me. At least the first year there. Are you living in Phuket?! So many questions for you! If you don’t mind taking the time to educate a hopeless Midwestern American please DM me!
Steve *******
Based on your description, you seem more suited to live in the Philippines.

Look into the visa rules there (up to 3 years per entry) and you might reconsider your options.
Catherine ***********
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@Steve ******
I did look into it, but I’ll be coming with my six yr old daughter who’ll be starting 1st grade, and from what I gather (only internet search’s and forums like this), Thailand has more and better, international and bi-lingual schools.
Yumi *********
@Catherine **********
coming from the Philipppines and having lived as an English teacher in Bangkok and Hanoi, I am certain you will have better job prospects from international schools in Hanoi and BKK and not in PH. Hanoi offers higher pay and better benefits like free tuition for your child if you are a teacher in that school (from legit international schools and not billingual ones) In terms of overall livability factors, I prefer BKK but I've chosen to stay longer in Hanoi due to its monetary incentives.
Catherine ***********
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@Yumi ********
great info! have to look into that. Worth considering
Yumi *********
@Catherine **********
if you want to consider Hanoi, I know the director of St. Paul American School. It's one of the international schools with good benefits.
Catherine ***********
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@Yumi ********
I’ll DM you if that’s ok! We’re also Catholic, so it makes sense to look at the Catholic schools that are bilingual schools 😊
Steve *******
@Catherine **********
I don't have kids, so I can't say anything about that. But most people in PH spela English, and there's a huge American expat community, so Immsurw they have "better" schools over there, since English speakers are so common.
Catherine ***********
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@Steve ******
so for me, the fact that so many speak English actual hurts my job prospects. That may be why better teaching jobs (bigger international schools) seem more plentiful in Thailand 🤷🏼‍♀️
Michael ********
If you arrive in Low season, the amount of property you can choose from, dependent on your budget and your preferred location is very comprehensive to say the least.
Catherine ***********
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@Michael *******
I’d be arriving probably in Mid/late June.
Michael ********
@Catherine **********
Thats Low season
Michael ********
Tourist visa is 60 days which can be extended for 1900 baht a further 30 days.
Jan ******************
@Catherine **********
and you can also apply for a six months tourist visa with multiple entries. Gives you 60+30 days every time you enter within six months. “Pure” border bounces gives you 30 days visa exemption which can be extended with 30 days locally.
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