Does QR Code payment provide more options for foreigners in Thailand?

May 23, 2022
3 years ago
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Dear foreigner friends...

Don't you think "QR Code payment" is giving more options to pay for foreigners?

Please help me fill out this form below to prove some assumptions in my study.

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Thank you! 🙏

*Only 2 minutes to answer these questions!*
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion revolves around the adoption of QR Code payments in Thailand and their implications for foreigners. A user highlights a questionnaire aimed at studying this payment method's impact. Reactions vary widely: some view QR payments as a convenient evolution towards a cashless society, while others are skeptical or outright against the move, citing security issues and the importance of cash in day-to-day transactions. Some comments also touch on the difficulties foreigners face in obtaining Thai bank accounts, which limits their ability to use such payment options.
Eric **********
The whole idea with QR code payment is for tracking and surveillance purposes. It has nothing to do with your convenience.
Eric **********
@Bobby *******
You are assuming that no one wishes to do you harm.
Eric **********
@Bobby *******
Neither am I, Nor am I naive. What if they are all Fullham supporters? 😂
Bobby ********
@Eric *********
I'm not paranoid if that's what you mean! 🤣🤣🤣
Bobby ********
@Eric *********
However it is very convenient! And anyone with nothing to hide has no worries!
Paul *******
There is already a QR code system for foreigners in Thailand. It's called WeChat and Alipay. Been accepted at 711 stores since at least 2018. Many malls and stores popular with Chinese tourists accept one or the other, or both.
Lloyd **********
I love paying with QR code.. it is very convenient
Paul *******
It literally takes 2 seconds to make payment with cash. Nothing is faster than that!
Paul *******
@James ********
Nope. Cash is fastest, followed closely by tapping your debit/credit card at merchants that use the tap system for small purchases.
James *********
@Paul ******
Tap, YES. Cash NO!
Paul *******
Cash and credit card are faster and more convenient.
James *********
@Paul ******
digital wallets and QR code are faster than either of those
James *********
It's not much different than paying via ApplePay, GooglePay, Paypal, etc... Pull yers panties out of yer arses...
Connor **********
@James ********
he originally said this
James *********
@Connor *********
But will never be cashless, in my lifetime. I have though been using google pay, and QR codes for years without issue.
James *********
Also Paypal since first conceived, more protections against fraud than anyone's cash...
Connor **********
Good for you, I have been using cash without issue, so see no reason to remove it
James *********
@Connor *********
Who's removing "it"?
Connor **********
@James ********
removing cash as an option of pay
William ************
Not interested
Damien ********
We need to fight the cashless system untill our last breath.. if it's allowed to happen the world is done for .. Think Great Reset. New World Order and permanent global controlled tyranny..
Giorgio ******
@Damien *******
YESSSSSSSSS.

You're so right
James *********
@Giorgio *****
They're coming for you Giorgio....
Giorgio ******
Giorgio ******
@James ********
you sound little a old piece of man going back to his early childhood still peeing in his pants . Or a troll
David ********
Sounds like a shambles. Or an attempted con. You will get no feedback from me.
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi everyone, I made a misleading on the topic, and I am apology for that.

What I want to say is if the QR code payment can give you more options for spending money in Thailand, would it be interesting or not?

My questionnaire will ask about the Intention to use QR code payment of foreigners.

Again, sorry for all the misleading.
Paul *******
@Nithi **********
It's called WeChat and Alipay. Accepted at many stores throughout Thailand since at least 2018. Mostly used by the Chinese, many expats are starting to use them now too.
Giorgio ******
@Nithi **********
don't need your stupid QR code .
Siddhartha *********
@Nithi **********
okay sir you can edit your post so at least you get right input! Again the problem is same how a foreigner you expect to be cashless when while entering he is required to show cash or equivalent balance of thai currency? Nithi Manjaiarn sir appreciate your efforts- now to enthusiastically entertain a foreigner to use QR or any other gateway he/she will need local thai account! Yes you agree with that? Right So we know what steps on what order we need to work out., and the 100% of vendors or local shops should be tech Savvy.!
Giorgio ******
@Siddhartha ********
and bla, and bla bla ,and bla bla bla !!!

Sounds like air blowing ..
Siddhartha *********
@Giorgio *****
right and still you enjoy it - careful you will be blown far off by this air 555
Giorgio ******
@Nithi **********
university study and you can't even ask the right question at first shot .???🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kewin *********
@Ni***
how about treating foreigners like thais and give them the option. Overreaching corporations and governments are using cashless society's as a tool of control. Let's just link it to a social credit system and go full new world order.
Филипп **********
This is king right here pal..... Cash..... 👑👑👑
Giorgio ******
@Филипп *********
so true !!!!!. Don't need a university study to know that👏👏👏👏
Paul *******
Absolutely not. Cash is king. Otherwise, debit and credit cards are good. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Филипп **********
Cash is king👑 Pal🙄🙄a big f.. K. U... To QR code cashless BS😠😠😠🤬🤬🤬
James *********
dang, you is rich,,,,,,,, 😂
Paul *******
100% NO!!!!!
Janet **********
No
Sean ********
No.
แมทธิว **************
In Thailand cash is still primarily used for transactions. I rarely use anything but cash for day to day life
Paul *******
China and Sweden are leading nations when it comes to becoming a cashless society.
Paul *******
Absolute nonsense. Thailand has been using cashless payments for some time, but a "leading country" it is not. While acceptance of credit and debit cards is widespread, cash is still king in Thailand and this hasn't changed much not even during the plandemic.
Jos *********
@แมทธิว *************
using Thai name isn't making you a Thai expert so to see on that answer. In my eyes, Thailand is one of the kneading country's concerning cashless payments. I walk around here and go shopping , full days, with not even 1 THB in my pocket. Only my Smartphone
แมทธิว **************
@Jos ********
cool story bro
Hettie *******
More control…NWO
Penny *********
Cash is king
Roman **********
Guys, the author here is conducting a study, not promoting cashless payments. Just answer the questionaire in a way that reflects your opinion to show that foreigners do not want to pay with QR then.
Giorgio ******
@Roman *********
conducting a study ???🤣🤣🤣🤣

How serious us that

Ldon't need ti conduct a stydy to know the answer.

As usual one of those , getting cash from doing nothing .
Roman **********
@Giorgio *****
I guess you never had to write a thesis at uni 😅
Giorgio ******
@Roman *********
you should avoid to guess because you have only 50% of chances to guess right . But my guess would be you are one of those being paid for guessing .
Siddhartha *********
@Roman *********
how you expect a foreigner pay thru QR- until he gets a local thai account - even for long term visas they need seasoned amount in bank/ while bank asks long term visa first to get simple saving account!
Roman **********
@Siddhartha ********
it's easy to open a bank account. Even as a tourist if you know which branch to go. But that's beside the point here.
Siddhartha *********
@Roman *********
right sir! Anyway for me the authors post and survey seems pointless! Foreigners are welcomed as good as locals to pay via QR! Now I wait for authors comments and response to elaborate his point 👍
Terriër ******
Fuck the new world order. Cash is our last little bit of freedom.
Roman **********
Done! But it's far from a 2 minutes survey ;)
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Roman *********
It's longer than 2 mins right? Sorry about that.

Btw Thank you so much for your time 😁🙏
Roman **********
@Nithi **********
probably 5-10 minutes :) and you are welcome ☺️
Wayne *******
just imagine thailand cashless!! imagine the mysterious digital transfers into corrupt pockets

clown
Scott ********
Nope, cash is king
Bobby ********
@Scott *******
Cash is done! Ten years and it'll be gone completely - if not sooner.
Scot *******
Not a chance. Cash will always be here.
แมทธิว **************
@Bobby *******
Thailand is still cash economy.
Bobby ********
@แมทธิว *************
Fast changing. The amount of businesses using QR code is astonishing
Alan *******
@Bobby *******
Credit cards have been around since 1950 and debit cards since the late 80s and people still use cash everywhere.

Cash isn’t going away anytime soon and it’s a bad idea to make everything you buy traceable by sketchy companies and governments.

Crypto is even worse, making it public record.

There’s no upside to giving this much personal info to people you don’t know and can’t trust.
Bobby ********
@Alan ******
I honestly cannot lose sleep if the controllers know which brand of toilet paper I use!
Alan *******
@Bobby *******
Goes way beyond what brand of household products you use.

These private party and government data aggregators have dossiers on people that would make the Stasi green with envy.

It’s not just keeping track of what you buy, what you own, where you go, who you associate with, your politics, all the skeletons in your closet but also it’s being able to flip a switch and make your assets disappear.

Maybe you have job or business that puts you in a position where someone up the food chain decides you need to be controlled.

Or maybe you’re just a low level nobody who happens to have a job that can get you access to a high value target.

Or maybe you decide to speak out publicly against some corrupt people and actually make some ripples in the pond.

In the past you could make the argument that you simply weren’t important enough for anyone to bother going after you.

But now being targeted can be done automatically by computer systems at mass scale.

Look at the social credit system the Chinese built.

Oh and that’s just what you have to worry about from governments.

Doesn’t even get into what organized crime hacker groups can do when they gain access to this data which is often poorly secured.
Bobby ********
@Alan ******
I'm just a retiree with no agendas. Enjoying life as it should be, not shaking with fear over the New World Order! If "they" want to know my movements I'm happy for "them" - I honestly and truthfully have absolutely NOTHING to hide! 😆
Poko ********
@Bobby *******
Without privacy, you can't have anything for yourself. Saying you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
Bobby ********
@Poko *******
Whatever. I just can't be bothered with all that crap. Problem with free speech is there are too many whackos out there peddling bullshit, and so many people believe them!
Scott ********
@Bobby *******
shitty attitude bobby
Scott ********
@Bobby *******
fuck that idea, horrible plan that I won't support in any way. I don't want government knowing everything I do, it's none of their fkn business. Freedom of choice and I say no. Cheers
Bobby ********
@Scott *******
I don't think you'll get a choice somehow, but good luck with it!
Allan ********
they have more control than just your money... that's just the start.. have been here 8 years and have watched it evolve n the last 2 years into a total social control tool as well.. don't do it
Kayla ******
Why are you doing that?!

Cashless is seems sweet….However Sugar is dangerous.

Sorry I won’t support this study. I prefer cash. Study like this is behind what purpose? You want to turn Thailand into China?
Nithi ***********
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@**
I didn't know that China is already cashless 100% and they can just take control of your account by not doing a thing that the government doesn't like.

For my cashless meaning is to try as much it can and turn physical cash to exchange easier than a banknote or coin and give convenience to tourist travel in Thailand as much they can.
Siddhartha *********
Again I am a foreigner and I pay for sticky rice to local street vendor through QR- from my Thai bank!
Siddhartha *********
Yeah and also I have seen some vendors don’t use qr or prompt pay or online banking- what to do about it?
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Siddhartha ********
Some rumors spread that the government gonna tracking their sale and force them to pay taxes. But for those who don't receive money from promptpay or QR it is like they just cut a good channel to get money.
Siddhartha *********
@Nithi **********
no tracking and all that- it is just also a part to keep legit money! Cash indirectly connected to black money many times- while online money or money through banking system by default is accountable and taxed! Again my thoughts , also Thailand is crypto friendly and blockchain have revolutionized the payment Chanel won’t you agree?
Giorgio ******
@Nithi **********
: what kind of human calls " work to survive and feed family" , a good channelto get money .

I Wander what channel you use yourself !!!
Nithi ***********
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@Giorgio *****
So I think you want to argue off the topic of intention to use QR code payment. You can post a new one and maybe we can discuss that.

Sorry to lets you feel that I ask questions and do not care about poor people that can't even have food to eat.

I am Thai and I didn't blind. I also want Thailand to get better. but I can't do anything. I'm just a human same as you.

btw Thank you for sharing.
Giorgio ******
@Nithi **********
great to understand " you don't care about poor people that can't even have food to eat " ( as you say it yourself ) .

What a shame . It makes me sick to read this .

What kind of human can write such horrible things 🤮🤮🤮🤮. Thanks not to talk to me anymore .
James *********
@Giorgio *****
why not take a long walk down a short pier...
Giorgio ******
Troll
Siddhartha *********
@Giorgio *****
man I am sick of your nasty comments here- take this I am gonna dust you off boy
Bobby ********
@Siddhartha ********
They'll soon be out of business, so it doesn't matter
Giorgio ******
THE MOST STUPID IDEÀ OF THE CENTURY!!!🤮🤮

How do you think the millions of poor people would live cashless

. Not everybody lives in rich BANGKOK .

🤮🤮🤮🤮😡😡😡
Paul *******
Stop looking down on Thais
@Giorgio *****
a lot of them have much more money than you do.
Paul *******
@Giorgio *****
yes you are!
Paul *******
@Giorgio *****
when farang live in a slum or among the poorest Thais, they believe all Thais are poor. That's where the arrogance is.
Giorgio ******
Paul *******
@Giorgio *****
Not every Thai is poor. The arrogance and ignorance when farang say this really makes my blood boil. Most Thais are middle class. There is probably a higher percentage of Thais who own farmland or an upcountry property than westerners, most of whom only own one suburban home back in their countries but no farmland.

That being said, yes you don't want to exclude anyone by promoting digital payments like this.

Cash is still the way to go.
Giorgio ******
@Paul ******
when farang live in rich area they believe everybody is rich , or at least middle class ...

That's where the arrogance .is
Siddhartha *********
@Giorgio *****
are you really in your senses ?? I wonder na
Garrett ***********
@Giorgio *****
Let's try and be constructive, not emotional please.
Giorgio ******
@Garrett **********
to be constructive : , tell me how will the millions of poor people will manage in a cashless society ???

Do you know there are hundreds of thousands of people who can't even read , in Thailand , not to mention people who can"t count , should I tell you about all the tribal people who are not allowed to open a bank account .how will these people manage

a QR code way of payment , when they have to manage their daily budget (often less than 100 bahts a day) to feed the all family ??

Î live in an area where hundreds of my neighbours have to earn money on an everyday base . Don't tell them they'll be paid by QR code , and they will spend their little money by QR code .

Don't have to be emotional to say it is the most stupid idea . Not everybody has a well fed farang's bank account . Not everybody in Thailand can spend without counting . Sorry to know what I,'m talking about .
Brett **********
@Giorgio *****
before commenting on something it's best to have some idea of what you're commenting on
Siddhartha *********
My friend - since you are part of banking system! Before survey and initiative to grant foreigners access to pay online! What and how would it be possible?Again survey is needed to get foreigners have thai bank account! For many its a task with lots of hoops and hassles! Had it been simple to have open Thai bank account for foreigners than paying online or through QR won’t be an issue! May be I miss something— but how about survey for foreigners getting Thai bank account??
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Siddhartha ********
Can I say Thailand is working on it. I am really sorry for any inconvenience that happen to you before. I was work in a bank for a few years but now I study a master's degree with the hope of getting smarter.

Now I have a foreign friend who says the same thing as you. So I decided to create this questionnaire to make sure If QR payment is the right way to go help people like you, why do we not push more effort to work in this way. I believe If it's really easy to do that it's not gonna have this conversation happen.

btw Thank you for your comment.
Siddhartha *********
@Nithi **********
ask your foreign friend sir? Account opening in Thailand problem or QR PAYMENT ACCEPTANCES a problem
Jos *********
I have to agree here too. It is a total pain in the ass, as many bank clerks do not know how to open a bank account for a foreigner and they make it easy on themselves bye saying "can not do sir" ......
Siddhartha *********
@Jos ********
exactly ! First step is to make banking system smooth to get foreigner savvy! Needless to say- vendors should be 100% tech savvy! Then it’s all done-
Dean *********
No...
Оливер *********
If they really start this s#!t, I'm going to spend my time and money somewhere else!
Brett **********
wtaf are you on about?
Gordon ********
That’s great I was using this when I lived in China as early as 2015, really hope it catches on worldwide.
Paul *******
My phone rarely has internet so QR codes wouldn't even be an option. It's cash or credit card. Nothing else.
Garfunkle *************
@Gordon *******
Most brainless comment in the history of existence... Hope you're being sarcastic.
Gordon ********
@Clark *********
why it’s fast and the transaction is incredibly cheap compared to credit cards that charge up to 2% to the vendor.
Garfunkle *************
@Gordon *******
If your phone runs out of battery, it's useless. If the internet is broken, it's useless. If your phone is frozen or technical error, it's useless. If you say something bad about the government, your account will be frozen. Cash is never offline, cash is never broken, cash is KING
Gordon ********
@Clark *********
I’m not saying get rid of cash, I’d like to have the choice to use QR code the 99.9% of the time my phone has battery and the internet isn’t broken.
Garfunkle *************
@Gordon *******
My banking app has been broken twice this month, my phone has run out of battery more times than I can count. So dont exaggerate with 99%. As political hacking advances, whole payment systems will be taken offline so wake up and stop pushing commie crap.
Paul *******
I'd much rather more businesses accept credit cards. Much more useful than QR code payments.
Connor **********
@Gordon *******
exactly and look at China now....
Gordon ********
@Connor *********
everything else aside they payment system works very well.
Kewin *********
Ryan ***********
@Kewin ********
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Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Kewin ********
Is this picture of Klaus Schwab? I have no idea what is he involved with this post or not? Can you give me some clues?
Kewin *********
@Ni***
if you don't know by now it's too late.
Connor **********
No, defnitely dont wish that
Tez ******
Cashless is the worst system and designed for fools.
Jos *********
Thailand is one of a few country's where you can already pay bye QR code even for a street food lunch for under 30 THB
Paul *******
Nope. Not been my experience. All the food vendors around me only accept cash. The way it should be.
Paul *******
Where? Most street food vendors only accept cash. Same as market stalls. A few more upmarket ones also accept credit cards but generally it's cash only. The way it should be. Personally I use mostly cash occasionally debit or credit cards. That's it. I don't want to try any other methods of payment when shopping in person.
Jos *********
@Paul ******
sorry, but ask any foodstall "secan nekrap" and they gladly showing you these QR code. Even for 10 THB
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jos ********
And how do you feel about that?

I feel this is super convenient because I can keep tracking my spending on my mobile phone, but sometimes it will look dangerous when I lose my phone.

Thank you for sharing 🙏
Jos *********
@Nithi **********
I feel like super happy we don't need to carry around money in our pockets all the time. It also saves on pants repairs due to holes in the pockets caused bye coins. 555

And a 3th point is, as you mentioned yourself, easy to track in your bank app where your expenses money went to
Bobby ********
Lots of street food places now take payment with QR code. I think it's great. The need to carry cash is dwindling.
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Bobby *******
Yes, I agree with you.

Thank you for sharing 🙏😁
George *******
I hope we will soon move to copper, silver and gold and stop using imaginary scraps of paper.
Edgar ************
Absolutely not. Cash has every benefit imaginable over the banking system.
Kevin ********
@Joshua ************
cashless could also be a way of bypassing the banks.
Edgar ************
@Kevin *******
Cash is the financial embodiment of freedom. Centralised banking and highly regulated financial systems are the stepping stones to overreaching government control.
Kevin ********
Who makes cash?
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Kevin *******
Good question! Cash is made by the central bank of each country in Thailand, called the Bank of Thailand, which tries to make a stable economy of Thailand by using fiscal policy.

So cash is regulated by banks but not commercial.
Steve **********
@Kevin *******
not a thai would participate.

They've been conned a their lives
Garrett ***********
No, I don't wish Thailand was cashless. I prefer a cash dominant society.
Ryan ***********
@Garrett **********
as you should.

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Nithi ***********
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@Garrett **********
but I wish you to answer my questionnaire to help me prove the assumption of this study topic. Thank you so much 😁🙏
Ruth *******
@Nithi **********
some people won’t want to go to your your link for security reasons. Your “survey” has a few flaws in order to have a valid result.
Nithi ***********
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@Ruth ******
you are right! I didn't expect all this to come 😅

I want my post to attract people, so I decided not to put all severe words in the post, but I already put every concern inside the form.
Garrett ***********
@Nithi **********
You shouldn't enter a study with the intention of proving anything, you should enter with the unbiased view that your question could be either proven or disproven.
Nithi ***********
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@Garrett **********
maybe I did it in the wrong way. Thank you for your feedback 🙏
Darren *******
Use your card to pay and it already is cashless.
Nithi ***********
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@Darren ******
Yes correct! but what is for street food or small food stall that can't get the EDC to receive card payment?

I think QR is the cheapest way to pay for goods and services which is not a high amount.

For foreigners who come from western countries like the US or Europe is based on card payments and have to exchange money for Thai cash maybe it has to be a better way to improve that or maybe it is nothing to deal with.

That is why I study this topic to ask foreigners who came to Thailand to prove my assumption.

By the way, thank you for your answer. 🙏
Brett **********
Think it will be just as much tondo with the foreign banks. PayPal offers QR payments but only on their own system. You probably should aim ant them and promptpay
Nithi ***********
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@Brett *********
I think Thailand has its own bank ecosystem which is not connected with others. But now I saw that the Bank of Thailand started to develop the system to connect with Singapore or ASEAN countries.

For my study I would focus on If you think about QR payment, what do you want to use or not? because you need to have smartphone access to the internet.

Thank you for suggest 🙏
Brett **********
@Nithi **********
QR payments are great for both small vendors and those without cards because there are no transaction fees, which is probably why they're not yet more popular in Western nations. They're essentially faster payment Bacs payments. Obviously if you're looking at including foreign bank accounts it then involves the swift system and I don't know enough about that and the costs involved to see whether these instant payments are possible at no fee.
Nithi ***********
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@Brett *********
Agrees, but that must be some way to connect them together and everyone should get the benefit from that.
Brett **********
@Nithi **********
everyone accept the card companies missing out on their 2.5% transaction fees. One would thinks the smaller players like Wise and Revolut with they way they are set up could integrate easily enough
Bruce *****
It will never work
Nithi ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Bruce ****
Maybe you are right. I believe that If I try to find that to understand foreigners who visit Thailand and see now Thai people use QR code or Promptpay payment almost every transaction.

From my experience right now, I rarely withdraw cash from ATM maybe one time per month.

BTW, Thank you for sharing 😁🙏
Bobby ********
@Bruce ****
It already is. I use QR now for just about everything, and most businesses are happy to accept it.
Bruce *****
@Bobby *******
as I said it works for us who live here but will not work for tourists the exchange rate will be hideous
Bobby ********
@Bruce ****
Agreed. But you're initial comment was "it will never work" without any qualifying statement. I responded by stating it already does, as I'm a frequent user which confirms it DOES work. Something tells me I'm not the only person using QR payments in Thailand
Micah ********
@Bruce ****
I can use my chase credit card here and get good exchange rates (I pay in baht) w/ no foreign transaction fees. If you have a card geared towards travel, it's not usually a problem.
Nithi ***********
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If this study help to prove that foreigners really want to use QR code payment the same as Thais, maybe our regulator in Thailand, like the Bank of Thailand, will get consideration.
Joseph ****************
@Bobby *******
are you a tourist or do you have a Thai bank account?
Bobby ********
@Joseph ***************
I live in Thailand and have a Thai bank account (several in fact)
Joseph ****************
@Bobby *******
so, in other words, you’re not a tourist. The QR system here doesn’t work for tourists as you need a Thai bank account. I’ll go one further and add that it’s not nearly as efficient as using WeChat Pay in China. It’s kind of “clunky”.
Bobby ********
@Joseph ***************
I don't know. As a tourist I prefer using contactless transactions, just a "beep" and it's paid. Most businesses accept this throughout Australia and most of Europe
David *******
@Bobby *******
as Joseph says will never work for tourists due no no thai bank and anyone using Visa or Mastercard would be mad to use it for small transactions unless it was free, which it won't being foreign transaction
Dimitri ********
@David ******
It will not work without Thai bank account? You should not look at how it will not work but how it can work. If you would not need a Thai bank account it would be nice for tourists.
Micah ********
@David ******
Plenty of card providers offer "no foreign transaction fees" as one of the benefits, along with good exchange rates. It's not impossible if you can get Visa/Mastercard on-board. In that case, though, the vendor would be paying for processing (likely via a fee on their bank) unless it was subsidized.

Complicated, but not impossible.
David *******
@Micah *******
complicated and near impossible here apart from large stores, more so if costs passed to vendor. I have not found a card free for foreign use unless they have crap rates
Micah ********
@David ******
It would have to be offered as a service by the banks w/o requiring the vendors to engage with the card processor. The foreign card holder wouldn't be disadvantaged if the have a good travel card, and the vendor would likely pay a fee to their bank for the processor kickback. The biggest issue would be the logistics of how the foreign card holder would actually execute the payment--likely needing to set up a basic account.
Joseph ****************
@Bobby *******
don’t get me wrong, if it gets ironed out, it could be a very cost effective way to pay for things in foreign currencies. Unfortunately, greed becomes the proverbial wrench in the gears.
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