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Do I need to resubmit TM30 after domestic travel in Thailand?

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Mar 13, 2021

4 years ago

Ekaterina ************

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Hi tm30 question, I am aware of having to send it in real life. There were so many changes in it back and forth. The question is, do we need to resubmit the tm 30 if we have traveled within the country for the weekend? Went to Phuket this week and stayed in a hotel, so I am not sure if I need to go there and redo the tm 30 since the first international travel. Sorry for yet another tm 30 question ><

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The TM30 is typically required when a foreigner moves to a new address in Thailand. However, if you've filed a TM30 at your primary address and traveled domestically (such as a weekend trip to Phuket), many expats believe you do not need to resubmit it, especially if the travel was under 14 days. However, reports indicate inconsistencies across different immigration offices, and some individuals have experienced fines or requests for re-filing during their 90-day reporting. Therefore, it's recommended to verify with your local immigration office, as practices can vary significantly.

Dave *********

If my landlords supposed to do it would I get fined if they don’t?

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Ellie *******

The first responsibility is landlord/owner, but you are also one of them with responsibility as a possessor.

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Bobby ********

Dave Barwise. It's one of those irregular practices in Thai immigration services. It's the landlord's responsibility to file the TM30, but it's the tenant's responsibility to pay the fine if the landlord doesn't! You can ask the landlord for reimbursement, but will probably just get a LOL in reply!

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Marty *********

I believe, in Bangkok, that if you file it yourself you will also pay any fines. You could always ask your landlord if they would reimburse you later.

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Marty *********

I thought Bangkok immigration was one of the Immigration offices that didn’t ask for a new TM30 for domestic travel?

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I never once did a TM 30 in my three years in Thailand. I thought landlords and hotels took care of it. I have stayed in a few places where they did not even ask for my ID. Never had a problem with the 90 day check in

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Marty *********

My landlord insists on doing it but was told by Bangkok Immigration that she didn’t have to do it if I was traveling domestically. She filed my last TM30 in September 2019 when I last returned from the US

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sorry bloody thing playing up . I’ve noticed that some hotels now ask for my wife’s I’d and ignore me .

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John ******

that is because for Thai people they do not have this reporting. So they prefer that

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Ian ********

John yes I knew that just saying it seems to be more prevalent

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Bobby ********

Marty Pollard. That's what I thought. Friend of mine went to do 90-day report a couple of weeks ago and the immigration computer showed he'd been in Phuket in December and hadn't filed a TM30 in his return to Bangkok. He was told off and sent back into another queue to do the TM30 before they'd do the 90-dayer. Somehow he escaped the 800 baht fine which is unusual.

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Marty *********

I had traveled to Isaan 3-4x before filling my 90 day report in person at MTT. No one requested a TM30 from me. The small hotel in Isaan takes and copies my passport. I just don’t know if they enter the information into the system.

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Bobby ********

Marty Pollard. Strangely enough, my mate had spent Christmas and New Year in Isaan and had stayed in two different small hotels and nothing was said about that, so it obviously wasn't on the system. I think a lot of smaller hotels go through the motions of carrying out the process but don't hit the send button. It was only the larger hotel in Phuket that seems to have registered it. But as Tod says, every IO is different. I always do mine by post. It takes no time at all and costs total less than 100 baht including photocopies, so to me it's easier to just do it, and not have to be concerned about an unnecessary 800 baht fine! (that's a few beers!)

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Last year I was told by the immigration at MTT that you don't need to do a new TM30 or TM 28 if you have been away shorter than 14 days... But I would not say that I'm more than 99% sure about it as it's not only different immigration offices that have different rules, even different immigration officers have a tendency to give different answers!

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Bobby ********

If you're in Bangkok, to save the slog out to MTT just do it by mail. As long as you post it within 24 hours of getting back and get the EMS recorded sticker, enclose a self addressed stamped envelope, it's sweet. 72 cents and a walk to your closest PO. Five minute job

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Tod *********

Here's the address to mail in a TM30 in Bangkok

Notification of Residence TM.30

Immigration Office Division 1

Chalermprakiat Government Complex

120 Moo 3 Chaengwattana Road Soi 7

Thungsonghong, Laksi Bangkok

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Tod *********

The real rule IS, once you have a TM30 filed at your primary address and you travel inside the country when you return to that address you are not supposed to have to re-file, but that doesn't always seem to be what the immigration offices are doing or enforcing..

IF you don't do one, you'll find when you go to to your 90 day reporting OR to get another extension if you needed to or not.

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Ekaterina ************

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ok thanks for clarifying that , appreciated

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Tod *********

And sadly (for you :( ) the only way you'll know IF you need to re-file a TM30 aqain at your primary address is to slog on over to your immigration office and ask them their policy on it.

There is way too much variance between individual offices AND sometimes even individual officers IN the offices to give you a yes you do, no you don't answer.

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Ekaterina ************

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ok thanks I will go then , so sad the online system is down lol 🤣

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