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Do I need to file a new TM30 after domestic travel if my original TM30 has a future move-out date?

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Dec 10, 2021

4 years ago

Dak ******

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I need some clarification on the rules regarding TM30 reporting requirements.   I live in a rented condo in Bangkok with a 1 year lease.  The owner filed a TM30 with a move-out date 1 year in the future.   

My question is after I travel domestically for a short period of time - do I need to file a new TM30 after returning home to Bangkok.   I read on thethailandlife website that I am not required to submit a new TM30 after returning home if the move-out date on the original TM30 submission was in the future beyond my return home date from traveling. 

I have a lease and owner's ID, but the owner is unwilling to give me her ownership documents which I understand are required if I want to create an account on Section 38 app and self file TM30's. 

Thanks for any information you can provide.

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TLDR : Answer Summary

The TM30 reporting requirement states that foreigners must report their address within 24 hours of arrival. However, if your landlord has filed a TM30 with a future move-out date that extends beyond your return from domestic travel, you typically do not need to file another TM30 upon returning. This is supported by feedback from other expats who have received similar guidance from immigration officials. Nonetheless, practices may vary by location, and it is advisable to confirm with the local immigration office to avoid potential issues.

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Robert *******

Official law mention that at every address a foreigner needs to be registered within 24 hours of arrival. Many Immigration offices understand that for a night out or few nights out, there is no need to register on a daily basis, but this flexibility of the Immigration Officer is NOT a law or rule.

What ever you try to avoid by using somebody else to book rooms, or driving license or your

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card is your own personal freedom and your own risk to take.

The only one who can tell you if you need to register again and again is the Immigration Office in your area, not every office is as user friendly as the one in your district, but all of them do not shoot when you just ask the rules and regulations. Take care.

4 years ago

Brian **********

Your milage may vary, but I use a thai drivers license when traveling to reduce complications. Hotels usually take that instead of a passport.

4 years ago

Cole ***********

@Brian *********

That is interesting. I generally use the pink card but I can try the license too. Great idea, thanks. We tend to stay at little local hotels so they probably don't like the paper either.

The whole TM30 seems a bit redundant for fully registered residents. That is what my yellow book is for.

4 years ago

Cole ***********

@Brian *********

I make domestic reservations in the tiraks name. They don't care where she stays.

4 years ago

Brian **********

@Cole **********

the thai license magically has gotten me out of so many hassles. Bouncers magically waived farang price entry fees. Police chill out during checks etc. Both alone and when with thai friends. Hotels chill out about deposits and what not. Basically anytime I'm asked for a passport, I'll give the thai license.

4 years ago

Brian **********

@Benjamin *****

correct. Would love a pink id, but do not have one.

4 years ago

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Brian **********

@Benjamin *****

yes. I'm not entirely sure why I always get away with it. Always have the passport on me as backup. Always bring the bkk tm30, with me to bkk immigration for extensions to clear up any issues. It just cuts down the number of hassles at immigration with me randomly showing up in the wrong province

4 years ago

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Brian **********

Brandon ************

I actually think one of the biggest problems is this probably varies from counter to counter, so it may even depend on which type of extension you are getting.

I was using counter N for ED visa extensions (in Bangkok) and they did not require a new TM30 for domestic travel.

4 years ago

Geoff ********

Following, This has to be a very common situation with an ex-pat living in Thailand. If you have a lease at a live-in monthly/yearly rental but still want to travel and vacation in other areas. What is required for the TM 30 report during the vacation period and what to do exactly upon return to live-in residence. Any additional guidance with this situation would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

4 years ago

Geoff ********

Not sure what immigration I will use in the future? I do understand we are discussing Bangkok immigration. Thanks

4 years ago

Geoff ********

@Benjamin *****

, Pre-retirement planning for the near future. Thank you for your time.

4 years ago

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Geoff ********

Richard ********

Beginning of this year when I filed my own TM 30 for condo I rent in Bangkok Immigration at MTT told me that as long as travel away from condo is only Thai domestic then I don’t need to file a new Tm 30 each time I return to the Bangkok condo. Maybe worth double checking. Immigration changed the regulation for specific visa classes including Imm O Retirement which I have.

My understanding is that there was a big outcry last year from business, diplomatic and other circles who need to travel regularly within Thailand because of the onerous process with the TM30 every time.

4 years ago

Bobby ********

Just use the app. Saves a lot of time hiking out to immigration.

4 years ago

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