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Is the TM 30 still required after a weekend trip to Hua Hin for long-term expats in Thailand?
TM30Visa regulationsThai immigrationExpats in ThailandTravel within ThailandLocal immigration policiesHousing and landlord responsibilities
Mar 8, 2021
5 years ago
Al *********
ORIGINAL POSTERIs the TM 30 required if I returned to my rented condo (only Thai home for 9 years) after a weekend trip to Hua Hin? Did the requirements change, and I don't need to have my landlord report this to the local authorities?
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The TM 30 requirement may vary by local immigration office; it's advisable to check directly with them. While some offices may require re-registration upon returning from a trip, others may not. Experiences shared suggest changes in the enforcement of TM 30, but local rules may still apply, particularly for long-term residents.
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Benjamin ******
I'm shutting this down. Ask your local immigration office what the TM30 policy is, and what they expect. They would know. If you want to ask on a Facebook group, ask on a local Facebook group, they should know.
If your local immigration office wants the TM30 filed, either file it, or pay the fine. Read this FAQ about TM30, if you want more information:
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If your local immigration office wants the TM30 filed, either file it, or pay the fine. Read this FAQ about TM30, if you want more information:
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Al *********
ORIGINAL POSTERI live in BKK and I stayed at Amara Resort for one night. My landlord is in Isan and has a good relationship with the local Thai Immigration office. I thought I read where the TM 30 requirements had loosened a bit. I also messaged him, and I'll post here what he says.
Bobby ********
Al DaSilva. A friend went to MTT to file 90 day report last week, and the IO noted he'd spent five days in Phuket in December. Even though he's been at the same address for three years and returned to the same address the IO said if he leaves the province (Bangkok) for more than 24 hours a new TM30 must be filed. I thought the rule had changed so if you were only travelling within Thailand and returning to same address it was not necessary, but apparently it is
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@Bobby *******
as far as I understand the TM30 is to be filed by landlords while the TM28 had to be filed by the foreigner, the TM28 has been scrapped and anybody can file a TM30 I think. I understand some immigration offices (like Phuket) don’t require that you file it every time you come back to your main residence but not all of themPatrick **********
@Bobby *******
How did the IO know about his trip to Phuket and spending 5 nights there? It is very confusing because this case was relevant to TM28 as far as I know, until they scrapped TM28 last year. Theoretically .no more TM28.I understood that you need to do TM30 only when you move to a new location, example you rent a new condo, and you will have a new address. So they re-instate TM28 or what?
Benjamin ******
@Patrick *********
No they didn't. As I said yesterday:the TM28 *was* used when you moved full time to another location. The TM30 is currently used by the government to keep track of where foreigners live.
Patrick **********
@Benjamin *****
yes I understand all what you say. But this rule is very confusing because what they ask you to do now (TM30) is exactly what you had to do last year ( TM28 ). Maybe TM 28 is scrapped for good but the result is the same when you travel and come back to the same home address. TM30 is just another name for the same thing. Isn'it? Benjamin ******
@Patrick *********
No it isn't. The TM28 was used when you relocated internally in Thailand. The TM30 is when you stay at a different residence or location. Patrick **********
@Benjamin *****
What you say is clear. But this Immigration rule is confusing. From a practical point of view, TM28 or TM30 , the result is the sameBobby ********
Patrick Chesneau. The hotel he stayed at in Phuket filed a TM30, so as far as immigration was concerned he was still there. Remember everything goes on your immigration record.
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@Bobby *******
ok I thought so. Thanks anyway. For me TM28 has actually been cancelled last year but as a matter of fact, nothing has changed. It's like TM28 is now included in TM30. You go to Phuket. You spend 5 days in a hotel there. When you come back oi your home address, the same address you've had for years, you still have to file a TM30 either with the landlord or by yourself. But you still have to go to Immigration and say I am back at my condo, the same condo where i lived before going to Phuket, in Bangkok. TM28 TM30 same same but not different
Benjamin ******
@Patrick *********
Ok, fine. TM28, TM30, same thing. I'm not going to argue with you. The TM30 is something that some immigration offices must want you to file whenever you stay at a location.Patrick **********
@Benjamin *****
I am not arguing. I am just trying to understand. It might be very clear to you because you are an expert in these matters. I can tell you it's still very confusing for many people. And these rules are definitely not funnyBenjamin ******
@Patrick *********
Here's my advice when it comes to TM30: Ask your immigration office if they want a new one filed when you return from a hotel. IF they say yes, file it. If they say no, then don't file it. I think that's very easy.
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ORIGINAL POSTER@Bobby *******
Thanks. I remember reading that it wasn't required in my case. But not everyone agrees. My landlord just messaged me that he will check. I have feeling it comes down to the luck of the draw.Bobby ********
Al DaSilva. It might be the case. I always do mine by mail, haven't done one for a while, but I'll do one before my next 90-day if I have to go in person. I know it's only a 800 baht fine, but that buys a few beers!
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Where are you living and where did you stay at hotel in Hua Hin?
Darren ********
Best to check with your local immigration office
Some require you to re register and some don’t
Some require you to re register and some don’t
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