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Do foreigners with a pink ID card and yellow book still need to file TM30 and TM47 in Thailand?

Paisarn ******************
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If a foreigner has a pink ID card and a yellow book, do they still need to do TM30 and TM47?
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Yes, foreigners holding a pink ID card and yellow book still need to comply with the TM30 registration requirement, which involves notifying the immigration office about their residence every time they change their address or stay with a different landlord. The responsibility for the TM30 registration is primarily on the landlord, but if the foreigner is registered as the owner of the property (with a yellow book), they can also complete it themselves. The TM47 form is related to the 90-day reporting requirement, which also applies.
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Ppa *****
Ppa *****
All foreigners EXCEPT those with permanent residence need to.
Venesz *******
Venesz *******
you get healthcare at a moderate price in public hospitals(Thai, living here, tourist.)
Rob **********
Rob **********
Yes they do need to do both.
Andy ********
Andy ********
Yes and yes.
Thrilling*********
Thrilling*********
Yes. A Pink ID Card and Yellow Book have no legal consequence here. Purely aesthetics.
Breathtaki***********
Breathtaki***********
ThrillingBison1606 my Thai ID card was accepted for a car purchase and for insurance purposes. Perhaps you like carrying your passport for ID but I prefer my bit of plastic.
Thrilling*********
Thrilling*********
BreathtakingBison5301 I just use my Thai driving licence which is also completely accepted. Numerous cars, Land Office Registrations, flights and hotels all over Thailand etc. No issues. I just don't suffer from delusions of grandeur.
Angelo ***********
Angelo ***********
Yes.

Why do you assume you would not?
SereneAv*********
SereneAv*********
Yes you need to do both and the 90 days. Got my Thai pink card and yellow book last year.
André **********
André **********
​🛡️ Why bother with the Yellow House Book & Pink ID Card? Here are the benefits!

​Many people wonder if it's worth the effort to obtain the Yellow House Book (Tabien Baan) and the Pink ID Card while living in Thailand on a 1-year extension. Here is a quick summary of how it makes life easier:

​✅ Skip the trips to Immigration: The biggest advantage! With the yellow book, you don't need to visit Immigration and pay for a "Certificate of Residence" every time you buy/sell a car or motorcycle, or renew your driver's license. The book serves as your permanent proof of address.

​✅ Bank Requirements: Many banks have tightened their regulations. Today, several banks actually require a yellow house book to open a new account or even to make certain changes to your existing banking services. Without it, you might hit a dead end.

​✅ Easy Identification: The pink card is an official Thai ID document. You can use it to check in for domestic flights, at hotels, and at police checkpoints without having to carry your passport everywhere (which is better kept safe in a vault).

​✅ Save Money: At national parks, museums, and various attractions, showing your pink card often allows you to pay the "Thai price" instead of the much higher tourist price. It pays for itself quickly!

​✅ Simplified Contracts: Signing up for home internet or utility bills in your own name becomes much easier. You are registered in the system with your unique 13-digit ID number, just like Thai citizens.

​✅ Smoother Healthcare: Public hospitals use your ID number to consolidate your medical history. This simplifies the registration process and ensures you are treated more like a resident than a temporary tourist.

​In short: While not an absolute requirement, if you plan on staying for a while and own a vehicle or property, it saves time, money, and a lot of frustration in the long run!
Stefan ***********
Stefan ***********
Bra ide’, jag hör av mig.
André **********
André **********
Stefan Johansson Är i Sverige nu, men åker tillbaka den 5 maj kommer vara i Bangkok till den 10 maj och sen hem till Thapklo.. vi höres!!
Ray ********
Ray ********
@André *********
Sorry my friend, but in the last ten years of having a Yellow House Book And Pink 🆔 it has NEVER been accepted for ANYTHING .... Full Stop.

All because different officials make up their own rules. And sadly that's NEVER going to change.

With respect.
André **********
André **********
Ray Taylor Sorry to hear that. Has had its benefits for me a few times. Lives in Phichit.
André **********
André **********
Stefan Johansson Verkar bara vara en timme från mig. Kanske kan ta en kaffe en dag och snacka lite skit. 🙂
André **********
André **********
Stefan Johansson Var? Bor själv i Thapklo..
Stefan ***********
Stefan ***********
@André *********
Jag bor också i Phichit 👍.
Paul *******
Paul *******
@André *********
same as a Thai licence Sherlock
André **********
André **********
Paul Davis No!Sherlock!!

Public Services: The pink ID card contains your Thai identification number (13 digits), which may be required for more advanced services within Thai administration that the driving license does not cover.

​Proof of Address: The driving license is rarely accepted as an official proof of address by authorities. If you are going to buy a new motorcycle, sell a car, or handle matters at Immigration, the yellow house book (or a residency certificate from Immigration/the embassy) is usually required.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@André *********
half of these are flat out wrong
Mike *******
Mike *******
@Brandon ***********
that's a terrible comment, especially as a moderator, he is completely right on all his comments, the only one I have had trouble with is some guards at the national parks will still charge you full price, I found about
*****
strike rate on that one, but everything else he has stated has been my experience 👍
Geir **********
Geir **********
Mike Smith i pay Thai price when show my pink id card, when play golf, same whit Thai driving licence.
Breathtaki***********
Breathtaki***********
Mike Smith I agree and have found the pink card is good for everything Andre posted. I will add that my local immigration office requires a copy to be submitted during a marriage extension process.
Kim *********
Kim *********
@Brandon ***********
I use my Thai drivers license for hotel check-in. No problems so far. Have I been lucky?
Kim *********
Kim *********
Mike Smith actually he said " often allows you to pay Thai price" so that was correct.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Mike ******
it's not a terrible comment. It's an accurate comment. Many DLT will not accept a yellow book. No bank REQUIRES a yellow book. A residence certificate works just fine. Many hotels will no longer accept anything besides passport to check-in a foreigner due to the TM30 requirement.

All of these things have been widely reported across multiple places online.
André **********
André **********
@Brandon ***********
You can do as you wish but it can make things easier in many cases. If you don't want it, it's up to you. I've used it a few times myself and even got cheaper prices because of it. It doesn't make it any worse to have it.
Reinhard ********
Reinhard ********
Yes!
Jim *******
Jim *******
@John *********
Related to all this, from 30,000 feet.

My colleague (I am a former IBM) was a technical leader for this Immigration Optimisation. Took them 5 years to get where they are now and what we see from the Thai Immigration site.

The idea was and is, keep the foreigners on a short leash. That will never change, he said.
John **********
John **********
@Jim ******
rightly so. Try dealing with immigration in the UK, Thailand is mega relaxed by comparison
Jim *******
Jim *******
Yellow book, I have owned a condo in Bangkok since 2008. No any books, the City Council said the property is empty, nobody lives in there.

Living in Japan, our daughter got into the Blue Book in a province. I got into their Yellow Book.

But, But, only after my wife got terminally ill, cancer (in Japan) and I looked after her for years in hospital. It ended well.

Only then her family decided I am a person worth getting into their family home, Yellow Book.

My wife was telling me, her family did not trust a foreigner (hardly any family in the provinces does) until then.

Me, as a foreigner, could possibly claim ownership or whatever on their property. Then they dropped those worries and accepted me with open arms. Saved their daughter.

There was no need, had never been for me, we got the Blue Book and Yellow book for our Bangkok condo, disengaged from their provincial City Council.

My wife and our Thai daughter are getting invitations for elections at our Bangkok address.

We do not live there full time but still.
Lindsay *******
Lindsay *******
I just did my first online registration returning to my yelliw book/pink ID/drivers license address. Seems to have worked.
Andreas *********
Andreas *********
Yes
Julian *******
Julian *******
yes
Pornpakkul *******
Pornpakkul *******
Yes, off course.
Adrian *********
Adrian *********
Hello does anyone know, when you apply for renewal non o retirement visa can you fill in the tm 30 yourself or does the landlord have to fill it in for you
Stuart ********
Stuart ********
Adrian Foister It can be done online. No one would know who’s actually done it but you would need some details from the owner.
Kim *********
Kim *********
Stuart Morley you'll be using your own account if you do it and I doubt the landlord will let you use his account - so immi will of course know who did it. I do it for my wife with my own registered account. They know it's me 😏
Adrian *********
Adrian *********
Stuart Morley i tried that i uploaded many documents but it said insufficient information lol anyway the landlord did it in the end
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Adrian ********
depends on your immigration office
Ole ***************
Ole ***************
Yes you always need a TM 30 in your passport, if you have a visa with reentry permit you not need a new every time you leave Thailand, my TM 30 is 5 years old and everytime i do my yearly extension they say only need new if change adress, this law took effect june 30 2020 and was publish in Royal gazette on june 16 2020.
Alexander *******
Alexander *******
I have a blue book, does that have any advantages compared to yellow book?
Jim *******
Jim *******
I replied to you before, you could not have a valid Blue Book unless you are a Thai national
Jim *******
Jim *******
Alexander Groos In some quarters, it does. Like having or not having a Thai passport. Thais with their Blue Book do not have to have Thai passport, ever, most do not have it. That is all they ever need (Thai ID is issued based on Ble Book). Only when travelling abroad.
Jim *******
Jim *******
Alexander Groos Do not bullshit here. The Blue book is for Thai nationals only, you could not ever ever have it.
bang*****
bang*****
Jim Davis i have blue book and yellow book is not a problem
Alexander *******
Alexander *******
Jim Davis I have a blue book with my name in it, the land office did not want to change from yellow when we bought it from the thai that build it, same for all 30 houses on the same land.
Jim *******
Jim *******
Alexander Groos Impossible unless you became a Thai citizen. Like having a Thai passport.
Taki****
Taki****
Jim Davis I have a Blue Book for my Condo but as a foreigner my name is not entered in it. My name is in my Yellow Book.
Jim *********
Jim *********
Of course you do. They are a waste of time and effort.
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
If you have perm resident visa no
Potpon******
Potpon******
Yes
Simon *********
Simon *********
Tm30 is the landlord's responsibility. Having a yellow book, makes it your responsibility 😉
Andy ********
Andy ********
Simon Roberts sorry that is not true. It remains the responsibility of the house master.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
Simon Roberts The TM30 duty will always remain on the landlord or the property manager. You can register the accommodation in the TM30 system with a yellow housebook number, though, this is true. You could however also ask the landlord for the Login-ID and the password, then you would be able to register yourself in the online TM30 system
Mark *******
Mark *******
Yes
Stu *****
Stu *****
Yellow book can be use when buying a car or motorbike instead of a certificate of residency...

Pink ID can be used in Hotels instead of your passport.

Then you will not need to reregister yourself when coming back to your residence...
Terry **********
Terry **********
Yup
Paisarn ******************
Paisarn ******************
OP
Unanimous. What are the pink ID and yellow book good for then?
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Paisarn *****************
a yellow housebook is the substitute for a "certificate of residence" from Immigration. You would need it for getting a bank account opened, register a vehicle, for the extension of your Thai drivers license, et cetera. A yellow housebook saves you the journey to your Immigration office. A pink ID-card can be used for domestic flights or for hospital visits
Jim *********
Jim *********
@Paisarn *****************
use it instead of having to get a resident certificate for opening a bank account, Thai drivers license, etc. Phuket immigration is now charging ฿1,000 for a resident certificate.
Ron ******
Ron ******
@Paisarn *****************
I used my pink card when getting a Thai driver license. The number is referenced on the license. Also can be used for internal air travel in lieu of passport. Might get you into some attractions for Thai price if you're lucky.
Jim *******
Jim *******
Ron Duke You had to have the Yellow Book before you got the Thai Pink ID. Mostly, the same time and the same place (City Council).
Mark *******
Mark *******
@Paisarn *****************
you can use your yellow book for anything that requires a certificate of residency for example renewing your driving licence, buying a car, bank stuff like getting a loan or credit card, etc.

Pink cards are less useful. I can use my pink ID number instead of my passport number for hotels, hospitals and banks, etc but still need my passport to open/get on the system initially.
Paul *******
Paul *******
Mark Wynne a Thai car licence does same
Potpon******
Potpon******
Mark Wynne I used my pink card to get my DL it helps because they use the Thai ID number instead of the passport number

The Thai ID number never changes but passport numbers change
Stu *****
Stu *****
Mark Wynne unfortunately not all DL accept the yellow book. Klaeng wants a certificate of residency, not a Yellow Book.
Jesper *******
Jesper *******
@Paisarn *****************
you get those when u buy a property (condo) the yellow book will registered you as the owner and u can get a pink id as u have a address under your name and thats about it......you can skip the TM47 if you hold the PR (permanent resident) booklet and u can do your own TM30 as u own your condo
Robby ************
Robby ************
Jesper Ngiam I got blue book as owner and yellow before with my gf and her blue book
Graham *********
Graham *********
Robby Vollebregt are you a Thai citizen? I was under the impression blue book is only for Thai nationals . Just asking
Jim *******
Jim *******
Robby Vollebregt Impossible. You can not have the Blue Book as a foreigner. It would be like condo developers give you Thai citizenship and Thai passport. You just plainly lied here.
Martyn ***********
Martyn ***********
@Paisarn *****************
not a lot.. I think people just like to show off on social media and in the bar?
Paul *******
Paul *******
Martyn Rollinson a Thai driver licence is same
Roger **********
Roger **********
Yes
Malcolm *******
Malcolm *******
Yes to both .
Amit *******
Amit *******
Yes
John **********
John **********
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