Can I apply for a Thai DTV visa with only a 3-month hotel stay instead of a 6-month apartment rental?

Oct 28, 2024
a month ago
If I changed to soft power such as education in a local university in Bangkok, but I couldn't confirm to stay for 6 months now.

Though there're 9 levels to complete the whole course, each level only lasts about 6 weeks and different levels can be done on different dates throughout the year as long as there're sufficient people in the class.

At the moment, I couldn't confirm is the course really suitable for me or not, hence I've paid for 1 level and booked a hotel for 3 months stay.

I'll consider to apply for the next level only after finishing the first level.

So if I changed my application to soft power, can I just provide 3 months stay in a hotel instead of renting an apartment for 6 months?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The user is contemplating changing their visa application to a soft power category related to education while staying in Bangkok, but is uncertain about the length of their stay. They've booked a hotel for 3 months and are seeking advice on whether this hotel arrangement is sufficient for applying for a DTV visa, considering the usual requirement for a longer lease. The community responds with various perspectives on the necessity of a long-term rental, noting conflicting practices at different consulates, particularly in Malaysia, regarding accommodation proof. Some suggest circumventing these issues by either showing temporary arrangements or consulting an immigration lawyer.
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Cliff *********
Well now this is interesting.

I got my DTV from LA office and only had to provide the address of my home (which I own) in Thailand. No further questions were asked.

Digital nomad category.

Evisa.
Stephen ********
Did they say they’d accept the university degree? I have a bunch listed on fulltimedigitalnomads if you want to browse (put ‘DTV’ in the search bar). There’s an online webinar one which seems like the easiest we’ve found. How effective that is for an application though, no idea.
Anonymous *************
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@Stephen *******
Though the course is conducted in the university, it does not qualify as a degree level course.
Stephen ********
Anonymous participant Cool. Go for it. Ignore all the negativity then. I would apply soon though. I forsee the requirements getting more and more struct
Anonymous *************
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@Stephen *******
All the best for you too.

It's good to secure one such long-term visa because Thai policy keeps changing in Thailand.

At least for the peace of mind in the 5 years, for those who love Thailand so much or having long-term education or planning to set up a second home there or having a new relationship.
Stephen ********
Anonymous participant But as stepping stone to moving permenantly I think its a positive step.
Stephen ********
Anonymous participant I personally

see it as giving up. As it means you will definitely not go for residency, which is fine for me as it’s not somewhere I want to live forever. A year has made that clear.

Makes it funny for me all these old guys acting like visa experts. If they were such experts would have citizenship by now, not a multi-entry visa at like 60
Stephen ********
You will need at least a 6 month lease based on these requirements. Or go to vietnam or jakarta. I just got mine in Jakarta. Just plan for 3 day wait and a day extra in case you forget something (go in on monday).
Michael ********
They should not be asking for proof of prolonged residence, as it goes against the official requirements and defeats the entire purpose and intention of the DTV.

Many consulates are starting to impose their own arbitrary rules; however, this is the most nonsense as it contradicts the core purpose of the DTV.

I plan to apply for the DTV, but I will be entering and exiting the country every 2-3 months. The DTV simply makes it easier for me to enter and exit.

Your options I see here.

1. Direct the KL consulate to the official information from the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs, so they can waive this ridiculous requirement, which contradicts the DTV.

2. Apply through a different consulate.

3. Obtain a long-term contract or Airbnb agreement that shows long-term rental.

(You can obtain contracts, rental lease ect. which are not locked in & paid for.)

*Book Airbnb for 6months in advance, ensure refunds are available for cancellation within X period of time.

4. Consult Immigration lawyer for assistance.

However, this requirement makes absolutely no sense for a true digital nomad, which is the intended target of this visa.

*It appears they are either confusing the DTV requirements with those of other visa types or intentionally trying to drive away applicants at this consulate or create a greater difficulty barrier of entry for whatever reason.
Anonymous *************
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@Michael *******
I don't like to be bound by the long-term rental contract.

Currently I only booked a 3.5 month stay in a hotel in Thailand. To continue staying or not after 3.5 months, depends on the necessary at that time.

I might prefer to return home for a few months, then come back to Thailand again.
Michael ********
DTV holders are not expected to have long term rent.

This requirement in Malaysia is against the Thai foreign ministry of affairs official requirements.

Rather than deal with the ridiculousness, best to just show a temporary or made up 6 month rent.
Stephen ********
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for entitlement though, jesus
Stephen ********
@Michael *******
they can do whatever they want. You’re not in charge of them bro.
Anonymous *************
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Reply to Maxi Casu

These requirements are requested by Malaysia Kuala Lumpur Thai Embassy when I'm trying to apply for the DTV.
Stephen ********
Did they say they’d accept the university degree? I have a bunch listed on fulltimedigitalnomads if you want to browse. There’s an online webinar one which seems like the easiest we’ve found. How effective that is for an application though, no idea.
Anonymous *************
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@Stephen *******
Thank you Stephen
Anonymous *************
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Reply to Elías Molina & Toni Saari

A student visa can only allow for a 90 days stay for a single entry.

Extendable or not it's up to the immigration office.

What if the immigration refuses to extend for you and you're halfway done in the courses that you've paid will also be an issue.

If there's a need to extend every 90 days, it's a waste of money and time to go for a visa extension if you can get DTV for free of charge and hassle free(Singapore's citizens).
John **********
Anonymous participant but you won't get a DTV to study. You will need to use an allowed soft power option to follow. You can still study if you want alongside that
Anonymous *************
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@John *********
They didn't indicate what soft power they're referring to?

Eg. Muay Thai, Thai cuisine, music, medical treatment and....?
Anonymous *************
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@John *********
Thanks John
John **********
Anonymous participant "if I changed to soft power such as education". I guess you missed that
Anonymous *************
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Reply to Justin Wilson

I'm a Singaporean. The Royal Thai Embassy in Singapore has not approved by the Thai authority to issue DTV for Singapore passport holders, that's why I've to apply it abroad at the nearest embassy/consular, which Malaysia.
Henrik *****
Nobody says you have to go to Malaysia, just pick another Embassy to go to, if you can’t meet the requirements of the Malaysian Embassy.

You have to travel to the Embassy anyway.
Anonymous *************
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@Henrik ****
Maybe I'll try Cambodia when I reached Thailand if I can't get it from Malaysia.

The embassy in Cambodia they've a LINE contact which I could inquire first before heading there.

But embassy in Malaysia doesn't have any reachable LINE and unresponsive to email.
Henrik *****
Every try may cost you the 10.000 Baht non-refundable fee, so pick the right Embassy.
Elías ********
Attending university is not a valid reason to apply for a DTV.
Justin ********
You didn't tell anything about your nationality or the country you're applying in, so we have no idea why you need all this junk. Not a mind reader friend! I needed 1 dental appointment
Wannikea *********
There is no general requirement to show paid accommodation unless a specific consulate requires it such as this Malaysia consulate. Even short term for a week would probably suffice with the idea of looking for longer term once you arrive. That said, as others have said, the consulate might take your 10K and give you an ED visa. Suggest a different soft power route for you that's been proven to get the DTV from the consulate you're applying at.
Maxi ******
DTV does not require prolonged residence you are making confusion
Elías ********
@Maxi *****
Malaysia embassy does ask for it, which is a nonsense, cause the real digital nomads don't necessarily live on a same city for 6 months.
Stephen ********
@Elías *******
who gives a fk what you guys want. They can do and ask for whatever they want. Is their country.
Stephen ********
There’s so many grown men who act like children these days. Blows my mind.
Maxi ******
@Elías *******
exactly what I said
Toni *******
You dont need DTV for that, so why apply. They are waking up to abuse I see.

On the other hand, 6month requirement for DJs and people like that, dont make much sense
James ********
Think you need to get the Ed Visa, NOT the DTV visa
John **********
I didn't think education qualified for soft power. You get an ED visa for that
James ********
@John *********
correct ✅