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Will reporting my address for a Non-O visa on my own cause issues with my landlord's lack of reporting?

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May 9, 2018
6 years ago
Frank ******
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Hi, I'm just came back in from my Non O for another 90 days - wants to know if I were to go report my address on my own, will I get into trouble coz the apartment owner has never help to report us till now ? since I went out of Thailand today & came back in will it count as a fresh start or previous entry will be taken into account ? thank you
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The user is concerned about reporting their address for their Non-O visa, given that their landlord has not done so. They inquire whether their recent re-entry into Thailand counts as a fresh start regarding prior reporting obligations and whether they will face trouble for reporting their address independently.
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Frank ******
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i understand i can i also get residence cert at my own country consulate correct me if i'm wrong
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Tod *********
correct (y)
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Tod *********
I didn't know you were in Bangkok so FORGET anything I said about the TM.30 form. It is NOT a requirement at that immigration office.

Unfortunately because you are on a multi-entry Non-O and NOT an extension of stay you couldn't get a residence permit from the Bangkok immigration office anyway. They ONLY issue them to people on extensions of stays that require 90 day reporting.

You will have no issue getting a 60 day extension based on visiting family at Chaengwattana without a TM.30 form. They won't care at all
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Frank ******
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@Tod ********
 but you was saying if we were to go and do stuffs at immigration or get residence certificate they will fine us right ?
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Frank ******
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yes till 6 august. after that jus before expiring i go to extend at immigration get 60 days first right ? so it is a bit confusing for me
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@Frank *****
, you just got almost 15 months out of the visa right now with this last 90 day stamp (which should have you stamped in until august), almost 90 days AFTER the visa itself expires ;)

then the 60 day visit family extension takes you to almost 17 months in total.
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Frank ******
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oh ok. just worried that immigration officer will have issues with me. btw i did my last trip for non o according to the visa agent today for 90 days. the non o visa was issued in savannakhet on 17 may 2017 ( enter before 16 may 2018 ) - so the next time i can renew it at changwattana for 60 days at 1900 baht right ? but i am confused on how it can be stretch till 17 months ? thanks
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Tod *********
NOT in Bangkok, they don't care about the TM.30. It's the immigration offices in other provinces that are hard core about the form.
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FWIW: a TM.30 receipt is this (albeit it's filled out and stamped)
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@Fr***
 you can't use a police station IF you're in Bangkok and in fact IF you're in Bangkok you don't even need to file a TM.30 form because Bangkok Immigrations doesn't care if you or you land lord ever file one.
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@Tod ********
 hi if we do it at the police station is it the same form ? probably will go to police station coz it is nearer since onnut or nearby area doesn't have immigration office
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Daniel ******
Thanks, I suspect I’ll get it on Friday. I’ll keep it if I do. Not sure I want to rush back to immigration every time I re-enter the country though.
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Today I had to do the tm30 myself as a tenant, I paid the landlord fine. When I leave the country and come back (to the same apartment) do I need to do the tm30 again the day I arrive?
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Daniel ******
David Broadfoot if I could figure out how to do it online I would do it, but if it’s a big headache I’d rather avoid the stress. Too much stress lately...
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@Mary *******
 my landlord is in China so he can’t just swing by immigration
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Daniel ******
David Broadfoot correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s only my problem if I need a residency certificate, right?
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Mary ********
I have the same problem with my landlord. I threatened to turn her into the tax people along with her bank account number. (total bluff but hey it worked). I pointed out that if she went in there would be fewer issues than if I went in. Also either way she was paying the 1600 as I would deduct it.
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@Mary *******
 I went through the agent so they are doing it for me, and I go back Friday to get my residency cert.

I just won’t do another tm30, the landlord is supposed to do it anyway
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@Daniel *************
 no totally different thing. Are you sure you didnt get a receipt from when you reported and paid the late fee? Looks like the torn bottom of a 8×10 piece of paper. Check your passport. Lots of times they just staple it in. If they handed it to you and you lost it....well sorry to say you are screwed. You will have to go over the whole thing. It MAY be with your application for residence certificate.
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@Tod ********
 I will need 30 day extensions.. but I guess they don’t check for those.. I guess no more motorbike purchasing for awhile
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@Dan***
 you have to have a thai go in, sign up, and then get a log in etc to use the online system. While legally you're required to do it. Unless you're going to go to the immigration office for something I would just "forget" to do it.
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@Mary *******
 maybe when I pick up my residence cert on Friday it will be included
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@Tod ********
 can it be done online? If not maybe I will just not do it and cross my fingers I don’t need another residence certificate
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@Ma**
 is correct. From what I've seen you just go in and give them your old TM.30 receipt and they update their info with your new TM.6 departure card and stamp the old receipt with the new date
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Mary ********
But you should have gotten a piece of paper in your passport. That can be reused as the TM 30 multiple times as long as you are at the same address.
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Tod *********
within 24 hours of you getting back home yes. :/
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Robert *******
Normally they don't ask what you did in the past. You arrived today and report that you stay at this address with the TM30 form.
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