Will renewing my passport help reduce entry issues when traveling to Thailand?

Jul 26, 2017
7 years ago
John *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi there, question regarding voluntary passport renewal.

I have a relatively new passport with a couple of visa exempt and extensions stamps and a few tourist visas accumulated over the last 1.5 years. The most recent time I entered, the officers were giving me a hard time but I was polite as usual and all went fine.

I'm back home now (unrelated to their scare tactics ;) ) and will travel to a couple of "western" countries over the next few months, giving me some non-SE Asia stamps...

Can renewing my passport reduce my chances of getting a hard time at the next entry? After all it would already show some accounts of other travels.

I guess the real question is, does their system go by passport number, or by name/birthday/etc.

I don't do shady things and I've only been a total of about 3 years in Thailand. But I like avoiding any causes for suspicion.
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The discussion revolves around whether renewing a passport can alleviate concerns about immigration checks when returning to Thailand. The original poster highlights previous difficulties during entry due to their passport's visa stamps and seeks advice on how entry systems operate. Commenters provide insights about the identification methods used by immigration officials, indicating that while a new passport may help in applying for visas abroad by removing previous entries, entry into Thailand is primarily tracked through a central immigration database that links to personal identification details. The conversation suggests that having a clean passport may appear less suspicious but cautions that immigration history is still accessible regardless of passport renewal.
John *********
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@Tod ********
now that's some insightful information! Thanks to you and all the other commenters ๐Ÿ‘
David **********
Can you show income from overseas? If you are legally living here and in the Grey area you should have proof of income to show them. If not I think you're going to be risky until the crackdown is over....
Robert *******
There is NO crackdown.
Joe ***********
I suspect the plan by Mr. Redberg to stay out of Thailand for a while - maybe a long while - coupled with taking the advice of one comment to lock down - or change his Facebook page... that he will get back into Thailand without too much hassle - especially if he goes to get a METV - 6 months life - multiple entries of 60 days stay - each of which can be extended ... Mr. Redberg - I suggest you look up and study the METV requirements posted on the Internet by the Thai Enbassy / Consulate in your home country ... see if this will help you. This METV can make a lot of difference as each exit and reentry is expected with the MULTIPLE Entry METV... No hassle at the border - most likely - nor at any Immigration office...
Tod *********
Okay, let's understand how the "new passport" thing works.

Getting a new passport wipes the slate clean as far as your visa and entry history to thailand at the thai consulates scattered around the world when you are applying for a visa to thailand. That's because there is NO data base at the thai consulates and they are NOT tied into the immigration data base. When you get a visa from a thai consulate they page thru your passport looking at entry/exit stamps and visas for thailand.

Now, getting a new passport does NOTHING as far as your exit entry history to thailand when you arrive here to stamp in. Every entry point into the country is tied into the main immigration data base and they can search by DOB, name, nationality, sex, etc. The people at passport control can see ALL your arrival/departure history, all the extensions of stays you've got and if you've ever overstayed when you stamp into the country.
Kevin ***********
I am in the same boat, though only home for a month. I think between the time out and a new passport it should help. I am about to go get a new one for myself today (in Canada). I think I just searched this last minute to save myself $200 and talk myself out of it ๐Ÿคฃ. But I will get one anyway even though it still might be linked in the computer, I think just having a clean slate, and not a cluster of stamps through a passport would be visually less dodgy to the IO.
John *********
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@Tod ********
, maybe you could weigh in on this one? You're the ultimate authority and have heard more stories than anyone else ;)
Robert ********
Your FB page clearly states: "Living in Pattaya"....yet you are applying for a tourist visa?
Tom *******
Hes right mate lock down any social media youve got they are twats but they aint that stupid
Robert ********
555+ I didn't post here seeking advise, my visa is for life. Good luck :-) !
John *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Sigh... I was considering writing a PS regarding these kinds of replies. Non-constructive, won't engage.
John *********
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@Jeremy *******
that would point towards keeping the current passport to demonstrate explicit proof of having been out?
Jeremy ********
Everything is in the system just because you change passports does not mean you start a new file....unless you changed citizenship of your passport
Jeremy ********
Being out for an extended period of time should help you out in returning to Thailand
John *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
I'm particularly interested in this because the hard time they gave me seemed to be purely based on the passport he had in his hands. He wasn't staring at a screen for 2 minutes. Rather, he flipped through the pages back and forth several times, started to grin and then called his colleague. They were kind of having a laugh. Again: this passport showed entries for a stay of about 1.5 years, no overstay, no denials, etc... And I don't wanna play the "I'm from <insert top 10 HDI country here>" card, but, you know...
Lynn ********
Similar when I re entered, the immigration officer kept turning my pages back and forth, there are only 3pages with exit, entry and a visa.. He then pulled me to the side with a grin on his face,.. why you come to Thailand? I told him he waved his hand for me to stand back in front of him, looked at me again then waved me through ... He dismissed 2people from entering (no idea Why) they tried talking to him but he said No go over there, they were taken behind a screen, must say I have never noticed the screen there before...
Lynn ********
Just renewed my passport and my old passport no is clearly wrote on the 1st page. When the lady at the airport put my visa from old to New she brought up on her screen both passport pictures...
Robert *******
Database check: Passport nr, Date of Birth, Nationality, Name, given name and pictures taken as far as I know. Some countries do place a big stamp: This passport has been issued to replace passport number: ......... I heard but not sure of that so if wrong do not shoot me please, some countries has that warning inside the barcode used when the passport get scanned.
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