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What steps do I need to take to legitimize my child in Thailand and ensure my visa situation remains stable?

Joe ********
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I am a US citizen and just had a baby with my Thai girlfriend. My understanding was that less than 60 days after birth, I can legitimize my child at the district office. Now I am being told I need a lawyer/interpreter that will cost anywhere between 60,000-100,000 baht.

My plan was to legitimize our child, and then apply for a 1 year visa at the immigration office. I went into the immigration office and they told me it would be a 1 year visa. They didn't mention what one that would be.

There is also the option of getting a free lawyer, but this will take about a year. I wouldn't mind waiting a year, but I am worried if that will change my visa situation. The immigration officer told me on my last border run I would have to fly out of the country for my next run.

I am looking mostly to make sure my visa situation will be good here in Thailand for a while. The money I can come up with, but it is a large expense. If you can offer any guidance to me with regards to the visa and legitimation, I would really appreciate it. Thanks again!
Answer summary
A US citizen has recently become a father in Thailand and is seeking guidance on legitimizing his child and managing his visa situation. He has been informed of potential legal fees for the legitimation process ranging from 60,000 to 100,000 baht and is considering various options, including hiring a lawyer or waiting for a free legal service. Community members provided diverse perspectives: some shared their experiences, suggested hiring a more affordable lawyer, or noted the importance of marrying the child's mother for easier visa pathways. Others emphasized the need for the birth certificate and recognizing the father’s legal rights, and some highlighted the feasibility of navigating the process without significant costs if fluent in Thai.
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Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
As the father of my son, born in Thailand and raised solely by me, meaning birth mother absent from the picture from the time he was 4 days old, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on the thread. Sooooooooooo...

I wasn't present when my son was born (Samut Prakan). Because I wasn't, the hospital refused to put my name on his birth certificate. I first met him when he was 4 days old at Ekamai bus station.Took him and mother home (we'd broken up when she was 4 months pregnant because I found out that she had cheated on me) to Jomtien where I worked as a teacher. She stayed about a week, said she had to leave for work and would be back in 2 weeks to get him and after we would share custody. She never came back. For the purpose of the post, further details unnecessary.

He's 10 years old now. First 7 years I lived in Thailand as a teacher on a work visa. Including school, medical etc.. because I managed to care for him without, never gave much thought to changing situation. When I decided to retire early I understood that I would do so losing 25% of my Social Security. Big but... If the son I'd been caring for was indeed mine (no doubt in my mind) he would be entitled to 50% of full bump on my SS. So retiring early made sense, as did finally going through the process of legitimizing him as mine. Long story short, I paid a bit over 50k baht to go through the DNA process which took place at American Embassy in Bangkok, progressed to an approved lab for testing stateside and ended with Patrick being declared an American Citizen born abroad. From there, went through the whole process of getting him a Social Security number in Manila which many know handles SS for a huge number of Asian countries and ultimately adding him as a recipient of my Social Security. Between the 2 of us we get 125% of full bump.

Regarding Thailand.. I decided next step was Thai legitimacy. A whole different ball game. With help from Government agency in Sarakham, including free Attorney, I began the process. Without going into too much detail, I had to go to court a few times, get DNA done here (Khon Kaen) and jump through hoops trying to satisfy the court. Trust me, if you decide to do this, be prepared to jump many hurdles, get used to silently saying WTF, and scratching a bald spot in your head. You want more details, ask.. As is now, I have been awarded sole custody, changed my visa over to the one based on being sole support for a Thai child and have full unimpeded say in which direction my son's future takes. The only one I have any trouble with now is America. He has an American passport, never used, ready to expire, which means I'm going to have to apply for a new one, as America does not renew minor passports. I'm going to have to contact birth mother in Finland and get her to make another form giving her permission for him to obtain a passport without her being present. Bullshit!

Anyway, that's my father/son story. Any questions or comments pos or neg are welcome... Cheers!!!
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
Thank you for sharing. It sounds like your son has a dedicated father. He's very lucky.
Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
@Joe *******
nice thing to say Joe... Thank you! I've gotten so much more from Patrick than I've ever given. I can't imagine life without him in it.
Ome *****
Ome *****
@Patrick ******************
Great job Pat!🫵🏻🙏😇😁❤️
Phil ********
Phil ********
Are you legally married to the Thai mother?

If not, the kid is not legally yours and you have a whole lot of hoops and expense to go through.
Chizel *******
Chizel *******
There's no 60days time limit to legitimise your child.

It's very easy and very quick to complete the process, I used a lawyer but if you speak fluent Thai you could probably do it yourself.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Chizel ******
Do you know where to look for the 1dt step?
Chizel *******
Chizel *******
@Joe *******
the comment from Olivier, is pretty well spot on mate
Tamara ***************
Tamara ***************
Should have married before the baby was born. You can get a 1yr through your wife, but through a child not until they are school age (I believe, unless you are the mom). Did you get the birth certificate from the hospital? You need that translated. I don't know the drill nowadays, but my husband just went to the ampur and did paperwork for our children. For you now, you will need the court to recognize you as the legal father.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Tamara **************
and after the family court issued parental rights, he needs 400,000 THB for an extension of stay permit based on being the father of a half-Thai child. He would also need 400,000 THB if he was married to the mother (his embassy does not issue income affidavits)
Tamara ***************
Tamara ***************
@Greg **********
I know. It is quite an expense now to be in Thailand. Since my husband (Thai) passed away and my kids are not school age, I have no idea how I will retire there. My finances are not there for the bank account and all!
Floyd ******
Floyd ******
I will be moving to Thailand soon but I want to make sure e

All my bases are covered.I am 77yo and have retired pay and social security.

Should I go to the consulate to apply and set up my bank or enter as a tourist and start in country?
Donald ******
Donald ******
Wear a condom next time, and plan first.
Willem ****
Willem ****
@Donald *****
Your parents should have done that.
Ome *****
Ome *****
@Donald *****
part of the plan is having a baby, the best gift none could compare, god blessed him and his beautiful daughter@
@Joe *******
❤️🙏😇
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Donald *****
But then I wouldn't have my beautiful daughter, and you wouldn't have a anninternet post to make shitty comments on. Looks like a win win to me!
Shane ******
Shane ******
My baby was born 3 weeks ago, cost me 500b to translate my passport and about 15min at the district office. They also gave me the thai and English version of her BC.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Shane *****
your name on the birth certificate does NOT make you the legal father, it does not give you parental rights. Only the family court order does
Shane ******
Shane ******
@Greg **********
This is wrong information you're giving. To obtain legal parental rights in Thailand, a father can legitimize his child through marriage, voluntary agreement, or a court order.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Shane *****
exactly, that's what I am saying. The name on a birth certificate does NOT make him the legal father since he is not married to the mother. He needs the family court order!
Ome *****
Ome *****
Here is my story. Over 10 years ago, my Thai fiancé got my baby born in Thailand...at a Thai hospital...the birth certificate stated that I am the father. Then she took the birth cert. to a US approved certified translation office, then submitted to the US embassy(Bangkok). After the US embassy approved all the evidence...a few months later she received Consular Report of Birth Abroad with my baby's US Passport. Everything were done without a lawyer and all service fees were listed on the US embassy www. (Note: Total cost spent approx. $1,500) I did everything while I was in the states side. So now my baby has a dual citizen.
Ome *****
Ome *****
@Greg **********
it's easier to go through the US Embassy than the Thai Authority for the parental rights. Now for the parts you want to stay longer for whatever reason, you have to follow the thai rules. No way to avoid it. It takes time if you must do.
Ome *****
Ome *****
@Greg **********
@ It's a different case if you want to stay longer than the Visa posted date, you need to follow the Thais rules.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Ome ****
but you still have no parental rights inside Thailand! Your name on the birth certificate means nothing. Only by family court order you can have parental rights acknowledged by Thailand. He cannot get a Thai longstay visa by showing the child is a US citizen.
Ome *****
Ome *****
@Greg **********
but I got it, go to the US Embassy for the assistance if needed. They would help you get DNA test if that's the case. My baby has my blood, Thai authority can't deny my child rights of the father. That's the international laws.
Ome *****
Ome *****
@Patrick ******************
In my case, I didn't go through the DNA test to get parental approval. Everything was done at a thai hospital while i was in the states side...a week after my baby born, I came to thailand (on a 30 day ViSA free) and registered marriage to my fiancé...all relationship evidence paper works were certified translate then all submitted to the US embassy for further approval, then I left to the states after my 30 day visa about to run out. By the way, everything was done smoothly. My family are now live in the USA. Back to Mr. Greg.....Joe's in Thailand via a 60 day VISA free at a time his baby born, he wants to extend his stay, he needs to go through thai rules like everybody and yet you're right about that.
Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
@Ome ****
Greg is correct. You likely can not get a long stay visa based solely on a birth certificate. If you get DNA done do not touch it. Leave it in the hospital until the court sends a request for it. At that point it will be sent directly to the court. Patrick and I did our DNA test in Khon Kaen. It sat there for about 8 months waiting for the court to formally request it. I have never see the test, I just know what the result was. The court has the option to but likely will not accept a translated version of the DNA used for American citizenship. Mine wouldn't.
Ali ******
Ali ******
If your name is on the BC, take it to the US Embassy to get your child US Citizenship, then when his passport comes in, apply for Thai citizenship for the child, getting him dual citizenship. I don't get why you wouldn't think to report the birth to the US Embassy.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Ali *****
Why are you assuming I haven't thought of that? And I do appreciate your advice, but it is not accurate at all for my situation. She was born a Thai citizen and we got her Thai passport 3 days after applying.
Jeremy ***********
Jeremy ***********
@Ali *****
because US citizenship doesn’t help him as a father stay in Thailand on a long term visa.
Xjwhudkwhry ********
Xjwhudkwhry ********
brace yourself, you're about to enter the real life...
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Xjwhudkwhry *******
Hahaha thanks. My life was pretty real before though. It is just different now in a good way.​
Olivier ************
Olivier ************
Did that exact same thing .

Took just under 3 months from start to finish .

Paid 50k and I most likely overpaid .

A/appoint a lawyer who uses to work this type of case and a translator . Meeting with them and provide birth certificate and other paperwork they require . They will need to find the laws from your own country regarding child custody as those will apply as well . Best to have a lawyer who speaks your native language ( I am french and I had to find the applicable article of laws and get them translated in English )

B/ lawyer book an interview for you and the mother at your local child protection services . For me was one month later . separate interview , they will ask where you met , how long , do you know each other family and other private questions as well as your income , immigration status and why you want the shared custody . They may visit you at your home and will give their advise to the court

C/ court appointment with your lawyer / translator ( roughly one month after child services visit . Judge will swear you in and ask the same questions . Took 40 minutes for me and he agreed to the share custody

D/ one month later roughly the judgement paper was given to me by my lawyer and I had to go to my local amphur to register the shared custody. They issued me with a certificate for it which I had to use in order to apply for my family support 1 year visa .

Hoping this helps
Eddy ********
Eddy ********
I registered my child within two days, no cost. It would seem someone is trying to scam you.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Eddy *******
your name on the birth certificate does NOT make you the legal father, it does not give you parental rights. Only the family court order does
Xjwhudkwhry ********
Xjwhudkwhry ********
@Eddy *******
everyone, including the mother lol
Shane *********
Shane *********
@Xjwhudkwhry *******
they would all be involved
Alan ***********
Alan ***********
As you’re not married, then see how your relationship goes. Not being nasty when I say things can go wrong and you can get trapped paying for a child you have no rights to see or have any involvement with
Jay **********
Jay **********
@Alan **********
it would still be his child.... He's just trying to make sure he gets rights to stay in it's life... Regardless of the relationship. It's more like, do it as quickly as you can, just in case the relationship dynamic changes and it becomes more difficult to do later
Scott *********
Scott *********
Pay for a lawyer cheap Charlie
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Scott ********
Don't worry about what another man is doing with his money. I bet you are the type to peek over at the urinals too.
Scott *********
Scott *********
@Joe *******
your dad is
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Scott ********
Hey big spender! Why don't you show off your granite counter tops and upgraded appliances next😂
Bill *******
Bill *******
@Scott ********
sounds like projection as you drive an Equinox. Lol
Scott *********
Scott *********
@Bill ******
an this
Bill *******
Bill *******
@Scott ********
Jesus what an eyesore
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Scott ********
Imagine showing this hunk of crap off, in this neighborhood, as a flex. Typical brokie coming to Thailand and thinking they are a big spender. What a joke.
Scott *********
Scott *********
@Bill ******
drive a Benz now
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Scott ********
look at Mr. Big spender here.😂
Sonik ***********************
Sonik ***********************
Go talk to 1 of the many visa agents and explain your situation and see if 1 of them can help you. I don't know how but these services often times can get things done better than the people who work at the immigration offices.
Pertti *************
Pertti *************
Get married and deposit 400k and you can apply initial visa and get extensions rest of your life🙏
Lennart **********
Lennart **********
The time through the court depends on your lawyer.

I was told 15 years ago that it could take between 6-12 months to make this paper from the court.

My lawyer did it in three days, it cost me 7000 baht in Khon Kaen.

Good luck to you
Lennart **********
Lennart **********
He represented me in the court , to get my papers who shows that I are the father of my son. As I was not married when he was born.

Maybe I can find a phone number to him.
Dimitris ************
Dimitris ************
@Lennart *********
can I have lawyer details? And what he did? Register the baby as US citizen?
Us *****
Us *****
You should just get a dtv and relax for the next 5 years. It'll give you enough time to plan your next move.
Tai **********
Tai **********
@Us ****
who says he can apply for one?
Us *****
Us *****
@Tai *********
says all the Chinese that are converting their ed visa into the dtv.
Pertti *************
Pertti *************
@Us ****
What do you say about this? He could get citizenship in those five years if he gets married. He still seems of working age😉
Us *****
Us *****
@Pertti ************
he holds the most powerful passport in the world, why would he lower himself to being a Thai citizen. The correct thing for hin to do is go back to American and earn some money and get his family over. The worst thing he can do is find a job in Thailand and make his child grow up here. Thailand is great for retirement, it is not a place to be if you want a career to support your family.
Pertti *************
Pertti *************
@Us ****
Thai Passport has benefits too

🌍 Asia: 🌍

🇯🇵 Japan* (15 days)

🇨🇳 China (30 days) *Starting March 1, 2024

🇨🇳 Hainan Province* (30 days) (Southern China Island)

🇹🇼 Taiwan* (14 days) *From August 1, 2023 – July 31, 2025

🇲🇻 Maldives* (30 days)

🇱🇦 Laos (30 days)

🇸🇬 Singapore* (30 days)

🇭🇰 Hong Kong (30 days)

🇻🇳 Vietnam (30 days)

🇲🇾 Malaysia* (30 days)

🇮🇩 Indonesia* (30 Days)

🇵🇭 Philippines* (30 days)

🇲🇲 Myanmar (14 days) *International Airport Only

🇰🇭 Cambodia (14 days)

🇲🇴 Macau (Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China) (30 days)

🇧🇳 Brunei* (14 days)

🇶🇦 Qatar* (30 days)

🇧🇭 Bahrain (14 days)

🇲🇳 Mongolia (30 days)

🇬🇪 Georgia* (365 days)

🇰🇬 Kyrgyzstan* (60 days) *From August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2025

🇮🇳 India (30 days **Please check with the embassy again**)

🇹🇯 Tajikistan* (30 days)

🇰🇿 Kazakhstan* (30 days)

🇮🇶 Iraq (60 days **Please check with the embassy again**)

🇰🇷 South Korea* (90 days) *Must fill out K-ETA / pay the fee / wait for approval via email first (If not, you must apply for a visa) ➡️

______________

🌍 Europe:🌍

🇦🇱 Albania* (90 days)

🇷🇺 Russia (30 days)

🇹🇷 Turkey* (or Turkey in both Europe and Asia) (30 days)

______________

🌍 South America:🌍

🇦🇷 Argentina (90 days)

🇧🇷 Brazil (90 days)

🇨🇱 Chile (90 days)

🇪🇨 Ecuador* (90 days)

🇵🇪 Peru (90 days)

______________

🌍 Central America:🌍

🇵🇦 Panama* (180 Days)

______________

🌍 Africa:🌍

🇿🇦 South Africa* (30 days)

🇸🇨 Seychelles (30 days)

🇰🇪 Kenya (90 days)

______________

🌍 Oceania (Pacific Islands)

🇻🇺 Vanuatu* (30 days)

______________

🌍 #Countries that can apply for Visa on Arrival (VOA) in 2025*

🇯🇴 Jordan (30 days)

🇴🇲 Oman (30 days)

🇳🇵Nepal (15 / 30 / 90 days)

🇧🇴 Bolivia (30 days)

🇫🇯 Fiji (4 months)

🇳🇺 Niue (30 days)

🇸🇧 Solomon Islands (3 months)

🇹🇱 Timor-Leste (30 days)

🇧🇭 Bahrain (14 days)

🇳🇮 Nicaragua (30 days)
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Us ****
I grew up in California as well. Some of the suburbs are more insulated than others. But then I would be raising a child around a bunch of rich California brats. It's turned into a materialistic society that produces that largest consumers of psyche meds on the planet. The cities used to be a real highlight of living there. To say you stick to the suburbs in California is a prison sentence. Oakland hills and other affluent areas have home invasions all the time. It's a failed state. Lets not get into the recent fires there. Those people had a lot of money and also lost a lot.
Us *****
Us *****
@Pertti ************
you gotta be kidding me saying Finland is more powerful. You guys can barely keep Putin off your border without asking us for assistance. All I know is that if I am kidnapped by a bunch of ladyboys in Thailand, Trump will send it seal team 6 to rescue me. Also, I am smart enough to make money remotely and live here at the same time. Please don't mention to anyone that your Finnish passport is better than us when Putin is knocking on your door.
Us *****
Us *****
@Joe *******
I was borned and raised in California. Luckily, we lived in the suburbs so we didn't have to deal with all the problems. You just need money to solve any issues you have in America. I am sorry you feel depressed about our current state. Trump will make America great again.
Pertti *************
Pertti *************
@Us ****
Sorry but my original passport is far more superior if comparing Finland to US. I'm going to get Thai passport and can keep all my passports🙏 If you can make money home country then you can make it here too and can be top 1-5% if looking income wise.. Top 1% earn only under 400k here monthly salary comparing west here is easy to be richest 1%
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Us ****
It doesn't sound like you are very familiar with the United States. I am here looking for visa advice, so I will not get into a debate about the current state of my home country. It is depressing enough as it is. But money does not absolve parents of the dangers of such a spiritually bankruptcy society. Elon Musk lost his child to the mind virus. Plenty of other rich parents lose their kids to drug addiction too.
Us *****
Us *****
@Joe *******
it is only a decaying society if you are a bad parent and don't have the money to support it. You will have to pay international schooling for your child here and make sure they stay out of trouble. International school is going to be extremely expensive. I hope you can afford it.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Us ****
The USA is a very sick and decaying society. Raising a child there is a horrible idea compared to the stable culture of Thailand. They sexualize children at a very young age in the USA. In some places my child will be taken from me if I don't agree to put them on behavioral medication or change them from being a boy or girl.
Julien ****
Julien ****
@Us ****
I concur with this 100%.
Mandu *******
Mandu *******
@Us ****
how much is the dtv? I'm getting so many different responses online
Henrik *****
Henrik *****
Visit the website of Thai Embassy to get the correct answers.
Mandu *******
Mandu *******
@Henrik ****
Thank you
Julien ****
Julien ****
@Mandu ******
*****
baht with small variation for each embassy.
Mandu *******
Mandu *******
@Julien ***
Thank you
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
If you were not married when the baby was born, you do not have parental rights. You need to go through the courts which will take months and will not be cheap.
Tohksic ******
Tohksic ******
@Brandon ***********
He also does not have mandatory child support, so if I was him I'd wait for a few years until the relationship has proven to be stable.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Tohksic *****
I'm not worried about that in Thailand. Is it like the US or something?
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Patrick ******************
Americans have been able to self-verify using the 12-months bank statement of monthly recurring transfers from abroad, since 6-7 years. Not only since last year
Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
@Greg **********
and what I'm trying to say is that based on my personal experience presenting it, and in accordance with the new Thai Immigration order put out last February, the issue regarding verification no longer exists. Not for Americans anyway. We are able to self verify. Cheers!
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Patrick ******************
yes that's what I am saying: the embassies of USA, UK and AUS discontinued issuing income affidavits 6 years ago (or already 7 years ago, don't fix me on the correct date)
Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
@Greg **********
not the case anymore.... Sorry if broken record...
Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
@Greg **********
you are not getting the visa based on being the father, you are getting it based on being sole support for a Thai child. I can't say with any certainty whether it would also be applicable, but it's possible you could get one based on being sole support for wife's child from prior marriage/relationship. Understand the advantage to sole support visa is you are able to show much less monthly or keep much less in the bank compared to retirement and marriage visas.
Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
If anyone wants a cleaner copy send me a message and I'll send for you. When I presented it to the little girl who works the front desk she took it back to a Captain, who in turn shared it with 2 others. They then spoke to her and she came back and told me that I could self verify my Social Security Verification letter, same as you sign any copies you supply them with. Cheers!
Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
@Greg **********
more info to share with one with all. This is genuine and works like a champ... I used it here in Ubon at the University Immigration.. Keep a copy, it's gold!
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Patrick ******************
yepp, this is they way it works, when you change the reason from retirement to support of half thi child
Patrick *******************
Patrick *******************
@Greg **********
that's open and depends on you having a bank account here in Thailand for at least 12 months. If so you can use the 40k monthly deposit into your account which is what I did. I switched over from retirement to sole support. Also be prepared to have Immigration police visit your home and talk to a few of your neighbors, they will take affidavits from them. There's another form needed. I'll check in the morning and update.
Tohksic ******
Tohksic ******
@Joe *******
My point is that Thailand is way more advanced than the West because the woman cannot financially weaponize a kid against you if you aren't married and not registered as the father.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Greg **********
ty for the information!
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Joe *******
so you didn't know about the financial proof that is connected with the Non-Imm-O family visa and the subsequent 1-year extension of stay permit based on being the father of a half Thai child? Did nobody ever informed you about the 400,000 THB requirement? And since you are a U.S. citizen, you can't even do the financial proof with an embassy issued income affidavit over monthly earnings of a minimum of 40,000 THB, because your embassy doesn't issue these affidavits any more? Nobody told you? Phew!
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Greg **********
news to me. Ty!
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Joe *******
once you got the family court issued parental rights, you can apply for the 1-year extension of stay permit based on being the father of a half Thai child. However, did Immigration not tell you that for this, you must show 400,000 THB in your Thai bank account? Because this is the financial requirement that comes with this visa
Lukas ********
Lukas ********
@Brandon ***********
Did it and total cost was like $150 (most went for interpreter) and took 2 months. Its very easy process.
Joe ********
Joe ********
OP
@Lukas *******
What did you do exactly? Do you have any points of contact?
Lukas ********
Lukas ********
@Joe *******
just go to juvenile court in your city
Lukas ********
Lukas ********
@Joe *******
I went to court, they told me what documents I needed to bring, and they said I had to go to the juvenile office to give a statement. After giving the statement, the court scheduled a hearing, and that was it. The hearing lasted maybe 10 minutes.
Alessandro **********
Alessandro **********
@Brandon ***********
that's not for every province tho
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Alessandro *********
Thai law applies everywhere
Alessandro **********
Alessandro **********
@Luit ****************
usually as an Italian parent having a kid in Thailand you go and register your son to your origin Italian municipality through the Italian Embassy in Bangkok. If you don't have a municipality in Italy, registration will be picked up straight by the Embassy. Either ways at this point for Italian government you automatically are the father of the child already. There is no other way for a kid to have an Italian passport, no other.
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
@Alessandro *********
I know, but then in Italy you must be registered as father of the child and the child as your son.

A child is not born with a passport
Alessandro **********
Alessandro **********
@Luit ****************
Italy is a jus sanguinis country and having an Italian parent automatically makes you an Italian citizen too. My son has an Italian passport.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Ome ****
you did not answer the question: did Immigration acknowledge your parenthood? Can you get a Non-Imm-O family visa based on support of a half Thai child?
Luit *****************
Luit *****************
@Alessandro *********
I wish I could travel in 1 second to Europe...

Did you already arrange the Italian citizenship?
Ome *****
Ome *****
@Greg **********
you're the one that need to WAKE THE HELL UP, and make sure to go back and read my previous post again you "Mr. Know It All" Mo ron turd...🫵🏻💩 you seem to misunderstood. I didn't have to go through the troubles like you've been having. To prove my parental ship of my child before marriage, I got the assistance through the US Embassy with small fees. No lawyer for me to deal with. Don't make it hard on yourself. If you choose to pay others to do the stuff that you could've done on your own. Go for it. Like other have said...follow the Thai rules if you want to stay pass your VISA allow.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Ome ****
you answered it by yourself: as long as there is no DNA proof, Thai authorities will not recognize your parentship that is only on the birth certificate. Simply because the mother can name ANYBODY as he father when she gives birth . . . you seem to be very naive. WAKE up
Ome *****
Ome *****
@Greg **********
you are wrong...if your name on a BC at a time a baby born (one of the parents maybe oversea at that time)...you're still the parent and yes...it means something. The only prove is through a DNA test if needed.
Alessandro **********
Alessandro **********
@Phil *******
omg I guess I am doomed then 😃 It takes one second for both me and my wife to move to Italy. My son has full Italian citizenship, no visa problem for him.

Send Thaksin to chase us there lol
Phil ********
Phil ********
@Alessandro *********
Means nothing, no you don't.
Greg ***********
Greg ***********
@Alessandro *********
your name on the birth certificate means nothing. To be a legal parent, you need the family court order
Joe ********
Joe ********
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@Alessandro *********
how do you have these rights guaranteed? My name is on my child's birth certificate bornnin Ubon.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Alessandro *********
Just because your name is on his birth certificate means nothing. The only way to have legally recognized parental rights is to be married at the time of the birth and your name on the birth certificate. If either of those was not true, then you are not recognized as the legal father until you go through court for an infant or go through the amphur if the child is about 7 or 8 years old.

Just because the mom treats you as the father and you feel like you have rights doesn't mean anything legally. She could take the baby away and be gone and you would have no recourse until you went through the legal process to obtain rights.
Alessandro **********
Alessandro **********
@Graham *****
something called lawyers maybe?
Graham ******
Graham ******
@Alessandro *********
what guarantee do you have?
Alessandro **********
Alessandro **********
@Graham *****
I was not married when my son was born and I am in his certificate of birth. I have full parental rights, guaranteed. Born in Ubon

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