Answereda year ago
What should I know about TM30 requirements when reentering Thailand on a long-term visa?
So I left Thailand and reentered on my DTV back in April. Today I went to report my address for the 90 day report.
Had all my documents in order (or so I thought).
I did not know you needed a TM30 for each time you exit and reenter Thailand. Immigration official’s smile immediately fades when she looks me up in the system and asks why my TM30 is dated for July and not April.
Well, “There was a typo in my name”, I said.
She said, “No, where is your TM30 for April. You only have two TM30s. Where is owner. Charge ฿1600. Contact owner right now. Do not leave. You call I speak to owner.”
Condo Owner: not responding to texts or calls
Me: the genius who left his wallet back at the condo, because, “Oh, immigration is just a short stroll to the beach, I’ll be in and out.”
Currently sitting here hoping they’ll let me return with the money. Each time they ask for owner, they just get angrier and angrier. Dear God
Update: They let me come back with the money. Got my receipt and I swear to God I’ll never make that mistake again 🤣
Had all my documents in order (or so I thought).
I did not know you needed a TM30 for each time you exit and reenter Thailand. Immigration official’s smile immediately fades when she looks me up in the system and asks why my TM30 is dated for July and not April.
Well, “There was a typo in my name”, I said.
She said, “No, where is your TM30 for April. You only have two TM30s. Where is owner. Charge ฿1600. Contact owner right now. Do not leave. You call I speak to owner.”
Condo Owner: not responding to texts or calls
Me: the genius who left his wallet back at the condo, because, “Oh, immigration is just a short stroll to the beach, I’ll be in and out.”
Currently sitting here hoping they’ll let me return with the money. Each time they ask for owner, they just get angrier and angrier. Dear God
Update: They let me come back with the money. Got my receipt and I swear to God I’ll never make that mistake again 🤣
Answer summary
The author shares a personal experience of facing difficulties during a 90-day report at Thai immigration after failing to provide a TM30 for a recent re-entry into Thailand. They were unaware that a TM30 was required every time they exited and re-entered the country, leading to a stressful situation at the immigration office. After several attempts to reach the condo owner for the necessary paperwork, they were eventually allowed to return with the required fee. The post highlights the importance of understanding local visa rules and procedures, with commenters emphasizing the need to file TM30 forms anytime one leaves Thailand.
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Ciarán *******
Is op saying we need a tm 30 when we re-enter thailand?
Anonymous *************
OP@Ciarán ******
yes. Even if you live at the same residence. Whatever condo, resort, or hotel that is hosting you files one automatically.I was unaware that I needed to inform my condo owner that I had left for two days to activate my visa so that they could file a new TM30.
That’s what got me in the situation. So in the system I’m guessing my TM30 was about 85 days overdue, even though I had an agent file one for July to fix a typo in my name.
Not my country. Not my rules. But honestly, it’s pretty ignorant. I’m renting a condo for a year lol
Greg ********
Anonymous participant The problem though is no consistency between Immigration Offices (Like with many things). Some want a new TM30 if you have travelled overseas and returned to same address while others do not. For me the Property Agent should know if they are dealing with foreigners and offer the updating service as part of their whole package.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant It is just a matter of learning the local quirks 🙂 I knew Jomtien as dealt with it a while and loads of people talk about it if anything changes. In Bangkok I was BOI and company office admin did everything for us. I was lucky when I moved to Chiang Mai. My property agent has a good pal in immigration and asked her advice on all of my questions. The agent for the owner also updates TM30 as soon as you inform them. Most of her owners are Chinese out of the country so she does it for all of them.
Anonymous *************
OP@Greg *******
Absolutely and my local immigration office doesn’t even have a functioning website. So I was piecing together what I could from expat groups and so forth
Delfina *********
The responsebiltu is with the owner and not you..they should fine them.
Anonymous ******************
silly question please, can someone please tell me what TM30 is?
Anonymous *************
OPAnonymous participant 804 it’s a notice that property owners must submit to Immigration when a foreigner resides at their property
Chris *********
What bullsht
Ad**
So in clear we need a tm30 for each months?
Chris *********
@Ad**
nopeAnonymous ******************
@Ad**
tm30 should be filed by landlord on day of arrival, if you don't move does not need to be redone. If you leave country and return needs to be redone. It also used to have to be redone if you stayed single night somewhere else in thailand but that was dropped in 2020Note TM30 is NOT 90 day report
Luit *****************
@Ad**
You need a new TM30 for every night you stay somewhere else than the night before.Anonymous ******************
@Luit ****************
not really been case since 2020, don't need to refile when return to main accommodation anymore, unless left country ********************************************************************************************
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48/tm30-reporting-rule-on-foreigners-easedGreg ********
@Ad**
For each time you return after an overseas trip. If you do not travel it stays valid.
Na *****
Hey sorry, just to clarify you returned and wanted to do your 90 day check-in, but only had your new tm30 not the old one?
Anonymous *************
OP@Na ****
so I had a TM30 when I rented my condo under a 1yr lease. I then left the country while still renting to activate my DTV.Didn’t know that I needed a new TM30 filed when I was out of the country for only two days and still living at the same residence.
Had a new TM30 filed to fix a typo in preparation for my first (and last—let’s be real 😂) 90 day report
So in the system the TM30 had been about 85 days overdue
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant Yes you need to redo after all trips abroad. You will find some saying you need to redo after just a single night away, even if don't leave the country, but that rule was dropped during covid.
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48/tm30-reporting-rule-on-foreigners-easedNa *****
Anonymous participant oh maaaan. Thanks for clarifying 😂 will be sure to avoid
Anonymous ******************
You don’t even have to do 90 days report, there is no enforcement about it
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 953 TM30 is not 90 day report, its notification of residence and while there is generally no enforcement, there is if you ever have to deal with immigration outside of a border checkpoint(as op did). Also its never wise to just ignore laws, because no enforcement today, does not mean no enforcement tomorrow (as has happened many times over the years in regards to TM30). TM30 is landlords job so just inform them them when go/return, 90 days is easy and little hassle
Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 953 Advising people not to comply with the rules is against rules in this facebook group.
The fact that some laws in some cases might not be enforced does not change that.
The fact that some laws in some cases might not be enforced does not change that.
Siggi *******
All the members here in the group don't know anything how it works in Thailand and what is really important and what not. What is a risk or what you don't need to do bc there is no risk. TM 30 and 90 day reports is only important if you need anything from immigration like an extension or residence certificate otherwise there is no difference you do it or not as where you leave the country no immigration officer at the airport is interested in this. And when you come back everything starts from zero. But people in this group they brag about how many problems they have and how difficult it is in Thailand. In Thailand you need a kind of flexibility or you are a walking ATM and you waste many days in immigration.
Luit *****************
@Siggi ******
You should not advice in this facebook group against the law, just read the group rules!Siggi *******
@Luit ****************
I not advise against the law, I only say there is no consequences and tm30 is not the responsibility of the foreigner ar all. You keep with your story that dtv is a work permit and nobody else allowed to work remotely 😁 this shows how much you know about law and ThailandLuit *****************
@Siggi ******
where did I say the DTV is a work permit? I would never say that. I also did not say nobody else is allowed to remotely work, in fact I told the opposite, so maybe you are a bit desoriented?
Eakkawee **********
@Siggi ******
how about instead of what people can get away with, they learn the rules and their responsibilities when visiting and staying in a foreign land and dutifully carry them out.Anonymous *************
OP@Siggi ******
you really need to lighten up, friend
Adnan ********
lesson learned so all good.....glade to see your positive thinking....
DTV_Be*******
You can bypass all the drama by doing a fly out/in every 89 days therefore never having to do a 90 day report for the duration of your visa
Good luck
Good luck
Anonymous ******************
DTV_Begpacker TM30 is NOT 90 day report (TM47). Latter only needs to be done every 90 days, former is done day one on arrival at accommodation
DTV_Be*******
Anonymous participant 625 please show me in my comment where I wrote
TM30
I’ll wait patiently
TM30
I’ll wait patiently
DTV_Be*******
Anonymous participant 625 I actually said that in my first comment
Anonymous ******************
DTV_Begpacker if you are not confusing them then your 'advise' is pretty idiotic, like "hey, to avoid filling out a form every 90 days just fly out and back instead! So much simpler!!!"
Luit *****************
DTV_Begpacker Not doing TM47 90 day report does not mean you do not need to have TM30 reports, the hotel or private owner is responsible for this, but you will get the problems because you have to be registered for every night with TM30
DTV_Be*******
@Luit ****************
I have never seen anyone pulled aside at immigration (air/land) for a TM30 Prove me wrong
Luit *****************
DTV_Begpacker I know, but that was not the discussion
DTV_Be*******
@Luit ****************
you can do the tm30 online it’s super simpleLuit *****************
I did not talk about punishing when you enter or leave the country, you just have problems reading.
I only told the TM30 is obligatory and who is responsible for it.
As the foreigner you are formally not responsible, the owner of the accomodation is, but authorities might think different about this.
As soon as you need something from immigration, they hold you responsible for not having the TM30, that might also happen when you against your will get in contact with police.
I only told the TM30 is obligatory and who is responsible for it.
As the foreigner you are formally not responsible, the owner of the accomodation is, but authorities might think different about this.
As soon as you need something from immigration, they hold you responsible for not having the TM30, that might also happen when you against your will get in contact with police.
Anonymous *************
OPDTV_Begpacker yeah I’ll be headed to Vietnam in October
Jim **********
Anonymous participant you need to be clearer re drama. The post was about both 90d and TM30.
You are correct about going in and out of the country before getting to 90d. That avoids the 90d drama. But every time you go away and come back you have to do another TM30, which can be another drama as per the post. 😉
You are correct about going in and out of the country before getting to 90d. That avoids the 90d drama. But every time you go away and come back you have to do another TM30, which can be another drama as per the post. 😉
Anonymous *************
OP@Jim *********
I’d like to redirect you to the “Update:” section of the post 😉DTV_Be*******
Anonymous participant do it every time and never do a 90 day report again
You can also do land borders as well
You can also do land borders as well
Anonymous *************
OPDTV_Begpacker I probably won’t be on another border run until the foolishness with Cambodia ends. I’m more than happy to fly to Vietnam
Anonymous ******************
I exited and reentered many times without that….
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 808 Same as 90 day report, entering/exiting they never check, but if you ever deal with immigration offices for anything like a residency cert then they will
Marks *********
 thanks for this post, you saved me from the same thing happening.
Anonymous *************
OP@Marks ********
glad I could help. Really wouldn’t want anyone else to go through it, honestly 🙏
Joel *******
Bro TM30 is literally called Notification of residence. How did you think you were going to prove your address? Haha
Delima *********
In Chiang Rai the immigration crew told me that if you not change your address no need to do the tm30😲.. now I confused 😕
Anonymous ******************
@Delima ********
if you leave country you definitely have to redo. The confusion is when you just go elsewhere in Thailand, used to be case that you had to redo even if was just single night, but that changed few years back, but many people and some IO still think its still the same ********************************************************************************************
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48/tm30-reporting-rule-on-foreigners-easedGreg ********
@Delima ********
Go with local office as all can be different. Chiang Mai 100% need to redo even if same address. My last visit there I had to get a TDAC printed out that was checked against the TM30 updateAnonymous *************
OP@Delima ********
yeah I think that’s how most operate which got me in the situation I was in haha. Go with what your local immigration office says.Apparently Chonburi also has the highest document requirements as well.
Anonymous *************
OP@Joel ******
it’s not that I didn’t HAVE a TM30, I just did not know that I needed to file a TM30 if I left Thailand to activate my DTV when I live at the same address.So I had multiple TM30s on file, but was missing one for April
Delfina *********
Anonymous participant confused as qell if ypu have a 1year contract and leave the country , your residence doesn't change
Joel *******
Wait so when I come back into thailand on my DTV do I need to have a TM30 also ready?
David ******
Anonymer Teilnehmer 24h or you get the angry look and get questions.
Greg ********
Anonymous participant Jomtien def used to be fine returning ti same address. They flip flopped a few times but from Oct 23 through till late 24 I never redid TM30 and 90 day was fine. The agent is a good idea and ask before renting.
David ********
Anonymous participant it's ok you know now. It's all a learning experience
Anonymous *************
OP@David *******
yeah what got me was thinking I was fine because I had the same addressDavid ********
Anonymous participant if you don't do it within 48 hours don't bother. Just wait for you next 180 day border bounce and do it then. But yes you must report every time you go out of thailand and come back regardless. Welcome to a long term visa 🤣🤣🤣
Anonymous *************
OP@Joel ******
100% 48 hrs to file an updated TM30. Immigration told me next time to use an agent since my condo owner is hard to contact
Aditya *******
call someone you know instead of posting this on the interwebzzzzz
Anonymous *************
OP@Aditya ******
or I post this for other people to see down the line so they don’t make the same mistakeAnonymous ******************
Anonymous participant I didnt know this and never seen this in the “interwebzzzzz” that you needed once for each time. So thank you.
Marks *********
Anonymous participant try ignoring stuff like that, there’s a lot of mean spirited people on here that just like to tear other people down. Fortunately, there are many good souls with good information based on experience that are incredibly valuable and make this a worthwhile community.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant - unfortunately, this is common knowledge, posted on often, and people still make the same mistakes
Anonymous *************
OPAnonymous participant 180 if people continue to make the mistake or forget, it’s not common knowledge bud
Greg ********
Post just yesterday on here about Jomtien and need for updated TM30 after a trip.
Anonymous *************
OP@Greg *******
I wish I had seen it. Luckily they let me pay the fine since the owner was out of the countryActivity
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