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What should I do if I overstay my Visa on Arrival in Thailand by two days due to a cruise schedule conflict?

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Jan 11, 2024

10 months ago

Cristina *******

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Hello everybody,

I will arrive in Thailand by air and get VOA as a Romanian passport holder, then go on a cruise from Thailand (exit Thailand by sea). My mistake is that i miscalculated and i will embark the ship on my 17th day ( the exit day from Thailand which is 2 days later than my 15 day visa).  3 questions i have:

* at the immigration office for visas on arrival in the airport, i have tickets boarding the ship after the visa expires. Are they going to give me the visa in this case if i tell them ill pay the fine or try to extend?

* if i will pay the fee for staying 2 days more, is there any problem to go back to Thailand in the future as i overstayed?

* Can i extend my visa once i am there with 7 days just so i dont have all this problems?

Thank you so much to all the help!

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The user, holding a Romanian passport, is concerned about overstaying their Visa on Arrival (VOA) in Thailand by two days due to a miscalculation related to a cruise departure. They seek advice on whether they will be granted a visa despite the overstay, the implications of paying the overstay fine on future entries, and if they can extend the visa while in Thailand. Community responses advise against trying to overstay, as it poses risks, including being denied boarding or facing fines. Some suggest being honest with immigration, paying the fine, and exploring options like obtaining bus tickets out of Thailand as proof of onward travel. Additionally, methods like emergency extensions were mentioned but are uncertain.

Terary **********

You can buy bus tickets out of Thailand. You don't have to get on the bus but it will serve as proof of onward travel.

I believe you can get a 7 day emergency to avoid overstay, I am not sure the requirements.

I assume if you are overstay by a couple of days it's no big deal and it will not likely cause you problems in the future. But that is only a guess and you assume the risk.

You could do a border bounce, possibly. Cross over the border, get some lunch, come back.

I have done a lot of questionable stuff to get visas and it usually works out for me. I have always avoid the overstay. My thinking is that I don't want to give immigration a reason to deny me entry.

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Cristina *******

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@Terary *********

thank you!

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Steven *********

Just be honest with them and show your tickets. Most likely there will be a fine of 500 baht per day you are over.

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Graham ******

@Steven ********

Most unlikely, read the replies above

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Steven *********

I am in a similar boat with a 90 day visa. I will be three days over when I leave Thailand due to a miscalculation on my part. M y Thai wife called immigration and they told her that it was no big deal. That when I go to the airport I would be sent to the immigration office and charged five hundred baht per each day over with no negative long term repercussions when I return later in the year with for another 90 day stay (using better math of course the next time 555.) They explained that, in my circumstance, paying a three day fine of 1500 baht was less money that going through what it would take to renew for another 90 days as far as hassle and the cost of renewal and said I should just renew before coming back.

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Graham ******

@Steven ********

Never go on overstay, it's not worth it (especially with a Thai wife)

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Steven *********

I agree. Just screwed up. Learning the spousal visa system and the Thai system of make everything confusing. 555

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Graham *******

you will be sent to the Russian front.

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Ivan ************

Note if you do try the 7 day extension refused, it starts from the day you are refused, it's not added on the end. So if you did try this, you need to do it within 7 days of the time you actually plan to exit, you can't do it early.

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@Ivan ***********

in possession of a VOA,

@Cristina ******

won't even be accepted on Immigration to apply for an extension, so there won't be any "application denied you have 7 days to leave the country" stamp.

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Ivan ************

@Gregor *********

when did this change? It used be possible. Not saying you are wrong, I know this stuff changes regularly.

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@Ivan ***********

you will find a lot of wrong info in the internet, including that f...d website thaiembassy dot com. They list absolutely incorrect info in this matter. You can clearly detect it, because a citizen who can only get a VOA, cannot be handed out a 30 days stay permit at the airport (the last sentence!) This advice is complete BS. . . it starts with the misleading info that the 7 days are called an extension, however they are an "application for extension denied" stamp

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Gregor **********

@Ivan ***********

a VOA holder is NOT allowed to extend, and this means being refused to apply for an extension . . . . Ubon Joe did not always hand out accurate info 😃

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Nigel *********

@Gregor *********

VOA can apply for extension and be refused obtaining another 7 days from date of issue

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Gregor **********

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@Ivan ***********

OKAY, the riddle is solved. Tod Daniels the “visa guru” of Facebook, had his say in the matter

My question was:

“will a person who arrived on a "visa-on-arrival" for 15 days, be accepted on Immigration to apply for an extension and receive the "application denied, you have 7 days to leave the kingdom" stamp ?

Or will this person not even be accepted to apply?”

Tod Daniels:

“They have to show onward travel in 15 days to even get into the country on a VOA

Now before that 15 days is up they could go to the immigration office and show that they're going to leave within a week and apply for the 7-Day extension denied stamp

They give it out it's not common most of the VOA people already have onward travel in 15 days and just leave”

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Ivan ************

thanks for that, so sounds like it is still possible to get the 7 days, just few people apply for it.

More important bit is that she may not get the VOA in the first place with her 17 day ticket out, that she would need some sort of onward ticket within the 15 days to get that.

If she gets in, sounds like she can get the non-extension for 7 days, applying within the last 7, with proof she's going to leave within a week (which she already has).

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Cristina *******

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@Ivan ***********

thank you! Really the answers helped me a lot. Either I’ll book a flight out or book a cruise earlier within the period of 15 days. Appreciate all the help!

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Gregor **********

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@Ivan ***********

.. I by now have asked Tod Daniels and the Thai Visa Advice group to clear this question. Let's be patient and wait for the reply

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@Nigel ********

no, Immigration won't even allow them to apply

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@Gregor *********

thats very good to know. I was reading other informations that VOA can be extended for 7 days. I will double check.

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Tullio *******

You are likely going to be denied boarding at check in, and once you arrive and apply for the VOA you will be asked a return ticket. If you are happy to take the risk of the overstay, though it highly NOT advisable, you should have a ticket exiting Thailand or a booking made with the many services available on internet, within the 15 days of your VOA. Moreover VOA are not extendable, you take a chance of asking an extension which will be denied and you MAY get some extra days to leave the country, but this also may not be given. You are putting yourself in a complex situation. If you have time apply for a tourist Visa.

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Henrik *****

Not necessarily a returnticket, but a ticket out of Thailand.

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Gregor **********

in possession of a VOA, she won't even be accepted on Immigration to apply for an extension, so there won't be any "application denied you have 7 days to leave the country" stamp. And her journey will probably already end at the airline check-in in Europe, if not then at the VOA counter of BKK airport. She will be refused entry. You are right = She has THREE alternatives: either she needs a 60-days tourist visa, or she must change the date of her flight to Thailand by 2 or 3 days later. OR she leaves Thailand for one day on the 15th day (she must however have a printed proof of this onward travel like a REAL airline ticket - not a "fake onwardticket") and re-enter by air and buy another VOA

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Cristina *******

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Thank you for your answer. I will exit Thailand before the 15th day visa expires and entry again to avoid all problems. Thank you!

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