What are the risks of renting a house in Thailand without a rental contract and without my landlord reporting my presence to immigration?

This is the heading of the form I use in Samui. Because I’m renting and in possession of the house, so I consider myself the possessor and I just include my details and not the landlords. Never had a problem yet. NOTIFICATION FROM FOR HOUSE-MASTER, OWNER OR THE POSSESSOR OF THE RESIDENCE

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My lease is a piece of paper in English that approximately lays out the agreement, address, names monthly rate (fudged a little), photos of passport with signatures. No tax stamps. Seems to work here in the Pattaya immigration office.

Why are you even considering being compliant with this? If you don't have a rental contract, you have no rights. If he doesn't fill in a TM30, he's breaking the law. Many many things require evidence of TM30. If my landlord was wanting to do this - or even mentioned it - I'd be moving asap. So much rental choice atm.

My owner filed the TM30 online and then I attach it for the 90 days reporting

When I took my lease to imgration they said to me e why is there no tax stamps on the lease they called my land lady and told her she needed tax stamps on it but we never did put them on.

I think it depends on what officer on what day you get to how easy or hard they wish to make it for you. Think now at this house I'm on my 5lease same tm30 from the first one

He sounds shady. If there’s no rental contract, move to another home. My old landlord tried to do this, but the school I work for had a chat with him and he did the paperwork.

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Practically you risks him denying n refusing to return your rental deposit to you at the end of tenancy.

He is obliged to do so by law. So you can report him to the police!

Probably because they aren't listed on the house book. You can't sign a valid contract with anyone but the person listed on the house book.

What is his name i was renting last November for 6 months he never registered me I had to pay and I got it back off him I will never rent off him again

It’s law he has to do

Do you have any confirmation on paper or in messages that you paid the deposit? You need a proof that you rented that house and that you paid the deposit if you havent signed any contract.

Good place to hide if you want to hide.

They will make you pay the fine if you want your TM30. Otherwise, your TM30 won’t be issued until your landlord pays.

Unless you want to get pulled aside and fined next time you have to do anything visa related, move now

Yes report him now and find new place

Are you sure that your landlord owns the house?

I had a similar situation. I went to the immigration normally to do a 90 day report. They told me to pay the fine for the owner (1500baht), and they called him. They told me that he needs to cover the cost and if not, to come back and tell them he refused. The owner sent me back the money the next day. But I dont know what would happen if he didnt do so.

Plenty of landlords sign contracts but still don't pay tax. That's why so many of them prefer cash once a month. So your landlord is super paranoid, or maybe there is something more nefarious going on with the property.

How did they even become your landlord with out a contract? You moved in without one? It would be your landlord who is also penalised on any count too so just do it yourself, and given you have no contract the law is one month deposit, I don't leave without my deposit in cash thou otherwise no chance you'll get it back. I wouldn't leave on this count if you like the place but you should let immagration know to cover your own back and a contract really does not mean much, if anything it's kind of good atkeasg you aren't signed down to 12 months, well she may think you are? I wouldn't tell immagration your landlord doesn't want too you might land her in shit then it might back fire maybe say you aren't sure if they have or something

Your risk is your landlord has not and will not complete a TM30. Find another place.

Move. The landlord has no license to rent rooms, and you will not get any documents you need. Go to immigration and tell them exactly what is going on.

Find a new house

Move, there must be 1000's of empty houses and condos out there.

Move.

Find somewhere else

Call immigration

They haven't got much to do lately