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Who is responsible for registering renters with immigration in Thailand: landlords or tenants?

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Jun 5, 2018
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Przemek **********
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I have a question regarding not visa, but renting a condo. From what I read and heard from other expats, it's responsibility of apartment owner to register us in immigration office. We were sure that the she did it, but when we asked, it turned out that she didn't.

Now she is trying to tell us that it is our responsibility to register ourselves. We try to convince her that she can have problems, not us, but it doesn't work. Do you know any Thai website where it is explained clearly so we can send her a link (her English is not perfect)? Or maybe we're wrong and this is our responsibility?
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In Thailand, it is primarily the landlord's responsibility to register tenants with the immigration office using the TM 30 form within 24 hours of the tenant's arrival. However, it can vary depending on the local enforcement of this rule and the landlord's willingness to comply, leading to fines for tenants if registration is not completed. This situation often arises from landlords wanting to avoid tax obligations tied to rental income, which may affect their compliance with registration laws.
Robert *******
Divers options are mentioned. As we know some offices do enforce this law, others are more lenient. Explain to your landlord or do it yourself, after all you are the one who need immigration office help when applying for Extension of Stay or Certificate of Residence.
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Mary ********
Lesson to be learned here is you do not sign a lease without a completed TM 30. My landlord wouldnt do it so I went to immigration paid the 1600 baht fine and took it out of following months rent. She objected until I threatened to call thai tax office complete with copies of the lease and her bank account #.
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Jim *******
It also depends which Province you live in. I have friends in Bangkok and couple others where their Immigration Office does not do TM30.
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Jim *******
Many landlords don’t do it because they don’t want to pay VAT or income tax.
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Al *******
Korat immigration will prevent one from completing the 90 day reporting requirement until the notification is completed, which can result in a fine which usually ends up being paid by the foreigner.
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Joe ***********
Thai and Farang Landlords Don't want to know about the requirement to report renters - BECAUSE reporting your presence - renting a room, bungalow, apartment, etc. means likely getting found out for not reporting Rental Income for Tax purposes - Also known as Evading Taxes. This failure to report can go back many years and big money to pay - plus fines.
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Shyla ***********
Well said!!!
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David ******
Its amazing that these landlords dont know the stupid rules in their own country
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Greg **********
Yes this is Amazing Thailand
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@Robert ******
 Yes I do as a matter of fact - why shouldnt I ?
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David ******
Alan Cornwall Its my experience that many landlords, thai and expats, that have rented out for years dont care about these forms as they know its the tennants thats gonna be punished
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Robert *******
Do you know all the Immigration laws in your own country? I suppose not, so why blame a Thai for not knowing what and how to handle Immigration laws if a foreigner shows up.
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Przemek **********
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thank you guys, I'll try to explain her that this is important. You are really making this group the best one for expats in Thailand!
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Tod *********
It is definitely your land lords responsibility BUT many offices know that land lords won't do it, so when you go in to the immigration office to get an extension or something from them you get fined for it not being done.

you can certainly report yourself in Chonburi though
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That is the Chonburi website and you want to scroll down to where it has the blue line on the page and the characters การแจ้งเข้าพักคนต่างด้าว
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Daniel ******
🤣
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, I kept on waiting for the pink panther arriving.
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Daniel ******
oh my god, the video on that website is hilarious. i had to watch the whole thing.

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Section 38. The householder, the owner or the possessor of a dwelling

place or a hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien with permission to temporarily stay in the Kingdom, shall notify the competent official at the immigration office located in the locality in which the house, dwelling place, or hotel is located within twenty four hours from the time the alien has taken residence. If there is no immigration office

located in that locality, the police officer at a police station of that locality jurisdiction shall be notified.
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