What are the requirements for applying for a Non-O retirement visa in Thailand regarding rental receipts?

May 4, 2022
3 years ago
Calvin *****
ORIGINAL POSTER
I'm currently in Thailand, thinking to apply for non-O retirement visa, got this info from the Chaeng Wattana office. I'm ok with most of the requirements which is consistent with what everyone has been saying, but that last one got me... Rental receipts for the past 3 months... Haven't heard much about this requirement, could anyone share their experiences?
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The discussion revolves around the requirements for applying for a Non-O retirement visa in Thailand, specifically concerning the need for rental receipts for the past three months. The original poster (OP) noted a requirement for rental receipts that is not commonly mentioned. Community members shared various experiences, indicating that while some did not encounter this requirement, others were unexpectedly asked for it during their application process. There are conflicting accounts regarding the necessity of presenting rental receipts, with some stating it was required solely for the visa application and not for extensions. The community emphasizes the ambiguity and variability in immigration requirements, highlighting the importance of being prepared with all necessary documentation.
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Calvin *****
ORIGINAL POSTER
Getting a lease agreement is not really the issue, just a matter of looking for a place to rent - something that would need to be done anyway since the plan is to stay long term for retirement. The issue is the 3 months of receipts...​ Not possible, cos if u came in on a TR, even with 1 extension, that only makes up 2 months, and u gotta apply before it expires.
David *******
I have a retirement visa, letter written by my wife saying that I can live/stay at her/our house. Copy of her ID etc.
Garrett ***********
@Calvin ****
Yeah that doesn't make sense. Never seen that as a requirement before, anywhere in Thailand.
Colleen *********
Also why is that comment on the form about a house. I would have thought many people would be staying in a hotel at the time of the application anyway.
Colleen *********
Very interested to know this too. As
@Stuart ********
said in his comment you don't need to have stayed the three months.
Deanna *******
Never had that experience in the whole 6 plus yrs we've been here. They do ask for a house rental contract though, and maybe a TM30, which requires copy of housebook, landlord's ID and phone number.
Shan ********
@Deanna ******
how many days / weeks it takes to get a answer from the immigration for your retirement visa. Appreciate your help
Deanna *******
@Shan *******
Same day! Sometimes it might take until the next day.

However .... do not wait. Do it a week or two early in case they want more docs.
Dick **********
I renewed in December and it was not required but my TM30 was in my passport.
Jeffrey *********
@Dick *********
The OP concerns an in-country application for a Non-O, not an extension of stay.
Dick **********
@Jeffrey ********
Mine was an extension from my out of country OA visa.
Jeffrey *********
@Dick *********
Sure, I understand. What I'm saying is that the requirements for a retirement extension are different from the requirements for the in-country retirement visa application - though why that is, I have absolutely no idea.

I did extensions of an OA for a few years as you're doing, then gave it up once the OA insurance requirement went into effect (I have comprehensive US health insurance, but extending the OA requires Thai insurance). I left the country, reentered on a visa exemption, got the Non-O at CW, and have been doing extensions of the O ever since.

Out of all those interactions with immigration, only the visa application required presenting rent receipts - and as the OP showed, it's a real, written requirement, not just something that one officer made up. Why require that for the visa but not the extensions? Who knows?
Jeffrey *********
I did my non-O at CW about two years ago. At that time, the receipt requirement wasn't on their info sheet, but when I went in for the application the officer told me - to my surprise - that I needed to show the receipts, even though I had my lease and a letter from the landlord, and was using the same address I had been using on all immigration forms for my previous OA extensions. She was kind enough to let me scan and email the receipts (I had them at home), and the visa was ready when I returned after the waiting period.

As to why they ask for receipts, it makes no sense to me, either. The officer's explanation was that "it shows you're not actually living in Pattaya instead of Bangkok" - because apparently a lease is easy to forge, but rent receipts aren't...? 🤷

For that matter, I don't understand why a lease is required, either, as there's no rule against spending your retirement moving around between hotels (or friends' sofas), but it's their game, and they get to make the rules.
Shan ********
@Jeffrey ********
just wanted to know approximately how many days it takes to get your visa.
Shan ********
@Jeffrey ********
how long it takes to get your visa from the immigration. Days / weeks. Appreciate your help
Jeffrey *********
@Shan *******
The face time with the officer is well under 15 minutes - similar to an extension of stay (though for some reason the officers in the Non-O section are a lot jollier). After that, they put a stamp on your receipt telling you to come back in two weeks to get the actual visa, which is just a formality - I've never heard of anyone approved at the first stage who didn't actually get the visa when they came back.

BTW, they do not hold on to your passport during that two-week period, and they don't put any "under consideration" stamp in the passport either.
Shan ********
@Jeffrey ********
as you say they told me they will inform me via line. Before 8 of may. I have not heard from them. Thanks for sharing
Jeffrey *********
@Shan *******
Perhaps the Line thing is something new - I haven't seen that before. When my friends and I did it, it was a very simple "come back in two weeks", and then putting the stamps in the passport only took 5-10 minutes when we returned. If they said "before 8 May", though, I'm guessing that really means "on 9 May", since 8 May is a Sunday, and there have been so many recent holidays. Good luck!
Shan ********
Russell *******
I have just done my application for non o . Rental agreement needed to timeframe wasn't mentioned yet .
Stuart *********
Perhaps others with experience at CW could confirm but I don’t believe they need that. A hand drawn map is a usual requirement for many offices but never heard of the rental agreement receipt thing. In theory you could land by plane today, set up your bank tomorrow, and as soon as the money is in apply for a non O. You don’t need to have stayed in country for 3 months.
Shan ********
@Stuart ********
I had problems with rental agreement too. All the other points were✅
Calvin *****
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@Shan *******
So how did you get around it?
Shan ********
@Calvin ****
. Still working on it. They are very adament. I will try to get some family members to help me out
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