Answered7 months ago
What are the recent experiences and requirements for entering Thailand with a DTV visa at the Chiang Khong border?
Seen by a friend at Chiang Khong border this morning
Edit: he came back today, no question asked, smooth process.
Edit: he came back today, no question asked, smooth process.
Answer summary
Recent experiences at the Chiang Khong border suggest that entry for holders of the Digital Tourism Visa (DTV) has been generally smooth, with many individuals reporting no questions asked during re-entry into Thailand. However, there are discussions about potential requirements for additional documentation like outbound flight details and proof of funds, especially in light of recent notice signs seen at the border. While some commenters express concerns over stricter enforcement of these rules, others emphasize their own smooth experiences without issue. Overall, while checks may vary by individual officer discretion, many in the community encourage having proof ready just in case.
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Shannon ******
Did he do it in one day or did he need to stay there for 2 days?
Anonymous ******************
Did u show them all these docs? Especially the flight ?
Sasha *********
I aint show none of this
Nicolas *********
I Don t believe you i have problème with imigration thaillandaise to go laos and i stay 15 Day in laos
Gabriel ********
And when you arrive at custom they don't talk to you don't check anything.
Small photo, fingerprints, byeeeeee 😂
Small photo, fingerprints, byeeeeee 😂
Mark ********
Nice one. Clamp down on you lot blagging the system and making life difficult for real people.
Mason *******
Mark Evison Pint of bitter and salt n vinegar crisps?
Pertti ***********
Put your pants on, it helps
Robert *****
I've never seen anything written or printed in English in Thailand without multiple grammar, tense and spelling errors. I call BS.
Anonymous ******************
This is an agent squeezing money 100%
Inspiring*********
Wasn't this exact same picture posted months ago? It's not new at all
Freddie *********
Any experiences of this sign being enforced or anyone denied entry on DTV? I always figured they were just trying to catch people setting up business but this sign is a lil scary
Mike **********
To be honest. I'm not sure how much this is enforced.
I just returned from Bangkok and Ubon Ratchathani and 3 weeks ago on arrival none were checked. Only the passport photo ID and fingerprint scans.
If your a frequent returner the situation is likely different as there is a crack down on people using Holiday visa for other purposes.
I just returned from Bangkok and Ubon Ratchathani and 3 weeks ago on arrival none were checked. Only the passport photo ID and fingerprint scans.
If your a frequent returner the situation is likely different as there is a crack down on people using Holiday visa for other purposes.
Lucas **********
Easy ..
Understandin*************
So does this mean a diving instructor can't utilise a DTV?
Claudio ********
😂🤣😂.....please you keep it
James *******
Wow!! That is perfect English. AI?
Jochen *******
Too many loopholes. 👎💩
Too easy to achieve. 👎💩
Nobody needs that.
Too easy to achieve. 👎💩
Nobody needs that.
Lee-Ann *******
I'm sure this made it's rounds this time last year too
Hector *********
And Soon to pass a new law 300baht entry tax on all incoming tourists .
That should bring in some extra money for the coffers.
That should bring in some extra money for the coffers.
Arnold **********
Good
Ivan *******
2. Digital Tourism Visa (DTV Visa) 🤔 ….or Destination Thailand Visa???🙄
Leo **********
So how come these diseased,BO and excrement ridden bin chickens aren't subjected to that process,they turn up no return ticket,no money,no accommodation nothing then stinking the place up,harass bar girls sleep excrete and urinate on the beach,steal from
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treat Thais like rubbish disrespect the people and culture yet it's in you come no problem. Let's just hope the Thai government make good on complete flight bans from India and the Middle East as of April 1(or is it just an April fools day,joke most likely)and deportations thousands of us won't be back,that is the high spending westerners that keep the entertainment sector afloat and by default keep the money going to ISSAN to support families out there because one thing is for sure Poopjeet and his mates are contributing nothing,buying nothing,spending no money and if you see a gathering of them dancing around to their trash music you never see any drinks apart from the odd 8 baht bottle of water with 10 straws in it.🤮🤮🤮🥸
Barry ********
Mike *****
Annoying
Tom ********
It’s painful, what if we haven’t planned the onward flight yet
Lachlan **********
@Tom *******
why would you need one if you’re entering on a land border….?
Erik ***********
This is great 👍
Larry ********
What kind of loser needs to post something like this? I wonder what kind of life he lives?
Anonymous ******************
@Larry *******
What's the issue with posting information about DTV? Isn't it the purpose of this group? Or do you prefer the usual get a DTV, get a red carpet propaganda? 🤔😝Christopher ***********
@Larry *******
18 hours per day trolling. Obsessed with DTVs. Purpose in life is to cause unease for others.
StunningHum************
I think the DTV visa is only cheap if you have it because of your work. If you're paying for a cooking class or a Muay Thai course every month, it's a pretty expensive visa.
Christopher ***********
StunningHummingbird3221 Why do that? The applicant probably only paid for a six months course to get their DTV. No requirement to enrol in any subsequent course.
StunningHum************
@Christopher **********
Not sure about that.... If the requirments are not fullfiled anymore a proof will failChristopher ***********
StunningHummingbird3221 How many reliable reports have you seen about DTV holders being denied entry because they weren't currently enrolled upon a qualifying course?
Wayne *******
Sad really
Thailand is a shadow of its former self. A shadow on the equator. Nothing to see!
Said after covid it wont recover and it hasnt! Its going backwards 😂
Thailand is a shadow of its former self. A shadow on the equator. Nothing to see!
Said after covid it wont recover and it hasnt! Its going backwards 😂
Anonymous ******************
At least at suvarnabhumi its easy. They dont even want to see your visa or tdac. All digital with passport.
Michael ********
It's another proof you can work remotely on DTV.
Chris **********
All normal entry conditions for tourists
Ben **************
Why doesn’t they just ask people to go away? “Sorry we’re closed today”.
Max **********
Land borders are stricter though? I can get all this ready and will, but I thought airports were generally more chilled out
Fak *******
What a mess
Sagi *********
They questioned me for 30 minutes when I was there last November, looks like they made up their own rules. Not doing a land cross anymore just flights.
Kaye ******
This is 100% NOT from thai immigration…
I know this because the English makes sense😂
I know this because the English makes sense😂
Mi ****
I saw this at the friendship 4 bridge in mid January when I was going to Laos. Funnily enough it was at the outbound kiosks. I entered Thailand again a month later at Nong Khai, no issues.
Christopher ***********
@Mi ***
Friendship Bridge number 4 appear to be rogue. There was a verifiable report of a DTV holder being told that they would accept sight of his mobile banking app if ever he was requested to prove possession of 20,000 THB cash or equivalent upon entry. Whether that would apply to all border post staff or only to that particular immigration officer, who knows?
Michael *************
Question is … dud the DTV holder actually have to provide all of that information?
Kjell ***********
This is stopping my next trip completely.
I have the DTV visa already
And when I arrived last November I only had to show passport and DTV visa.
Entry declaration was done online.
I don't have more than that at arrival.
There are new rules every year.
I have the DTV visa already
And when I arrived last November I only had to show passport and DTV visa.
Entry declaration was done online.
I don't have more than that at arrival.
There are new rules every year.
Brett ******
You’re a criminal…Welcome to Thailand!
Si ************
14th time arrival to Bangkok with DTV this time also no questions to me.
Lynn *****
Please tell them to stop making crap up. So embarrassing for Thai immigration
Junior *******
Visa doesnt guarantee entry
Shakil *******
Yasin ********
SincereOs*********
Doubt this is legit. Neighbour just stamped out ytd on DTV, Laos border. No such thing
Claudio ***************
Go back.home, prepare all the papers, then.come back 😅
Scott *******
They love shooting themselves in the feet
Mark *****
Will they ask this of me flying into Bangkok? I've never been to Thailand but am flying in next week for the first time with a DTV workcation visa.
Jeff *******
This seems like a classic attempt to try to be clear about something they don't understand. Half of this MIGHT apply to other visas, but not to the dtv.
Eric *******
Number 4. Can take a bus -van-walk to another border so having to have a flight isn’t true. And doubt can book bus tickets that far out
William ****************
@Eric ******
true. I don’t arrive back to Thailand until April 7 and booked a bus from udon to Laos last day of April because the online booking wasn’t displaying anything past that in May/beyond yet. But wasting 100 baht is better than non refundable flight priceAnonymous ******************
@Eric ******
Yes, but the day you see a fully clear, properly written official document in English here... feel free to call me. 😅
Wannikea *********
I'm sure that's at an agent's office. There's not even a Royal Thai Police emblem on there.
Debbie ******
@Wannikea ********
I just contacted an agent. I wanted to take their van to the border (basic package) but not use their other assistance, and this is the exact notice they sent me - trying to suggest I pay for their assistance. So I think you are right. Good observation.
Nongnuch ********
@Wannikea ********
agents spreading panic in order to squeeze a business fee out of scared DTV holders - most probably you are right
TheEag******
Is best to laminate your DTV A2 size minimum…personally got mine printed on a t-shirt which I wear whenever I travel into Thailand
Karl *******
Ultimately, it's all up to the IO. Best to have the material available, if requested, but generally it's not. No point in arguing with theories here about it, and even less with the IO.
The DTV has been granted way too softly, so it's possible they're looking to get a bit stricter with checks. Nothing will be consistent.
The DTV has been granted way too softly, so it's possible they're looking to get a bit stricter with checks. Nothing will be consistent.
Kenneth ************
very good information
Jr **********
Thailand, in a year going to be begging people to come . but people will just go some where else many other countries that want my money . happened to me in honduras was staying 85 days and had medical emergency was gone one week came back and they stamped my passport for less time than my original stamp , said my flight was scheduled for the same date as the first stamp , said ok left went to ecuador and spent my money there instead .
Bruno ***********
@Jr *********
Thailand will not loose a tourist Those not abiding to or not meeting the rules are not tourists
Wayne *******
Bruno Vaglienti DTV isnt a tourist visa 🙄
Luit *****************
@Jr *********
Most countries like to see people with your attitude go.Lachlan **********
@Luit ****************
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you would know of course
Evgeniy ********
Everything is correct; at any checkpoint, these are the documents that may be asked, but there is no guarantee that they will ask. Or order Fast Track if you don’t want the officer to ask questions.
Anonymous ******************
@Evgeniy *******
how can we order the fast track?
James ********
Anonymous participant 256 Google Fast TRACK SERVICE... Arrival airport
Evgeniy ********
Анонимный участник 256 If you need it, write me a private message and I'll give you the contact information for the company that does it.
Adam *********
Anonymous poster
Chris ******
@Adam ********
Yeah they suck.Anonymous ******************
@Chris *****
Chris Cave, 1 friend 3 posts 😂 okay. And a wolf as a profile pic. 👌🐺Chris ******
Anonymous participant 407 Says the anonymous stalker who has to hide like a coward lol. Also it’s not a wolf you uneducated yank. Enjoy being a weirdo stalker you just lost you creep. Also fb friends aren’t real friends you 🤡 you must have had no friends in real life so think someone pushing a button means you are popular. How sad. 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🫵🏻 owned you yank.
Anonymous ******************
@Adam ********
And? Let's have some clever conversation and present your arguments. Or are you limited to two words?Christopher ***********
Anonymous participant 407 To be fair the poster used a nick name. However, I believe his friend who saw and photographed this notice could well be an 'Anonymous Participant'.
Adam *********
Present my “argumentation” (whatever that is) about what?
I’m limited to words for people who are fear mongering on this group anonymously
I’m limited to words for people who are fear mongering on this group anonymously
Adam *********
1. The screenshot you posted is a pretty good example of what I’m talking about. The original post has no context
2. You didn’t respond to my point. Where are the actual accounts? Answer this point first, and then you can nonsensically say that the fact it’s an outbound sign doesn’t matter
2. You didn’t respond to my point. Where are the actual accounts? Answer this point first, and then you can nonsensically say that the fact it’s an outbound sign doesn’t matter
Anonymous ******************
@Adam ********
Who said denied? The main topic here is about signs at border 🤔. Here one with a name so you may feel a little better. As I said, you're putting all anonymous posters in the same basket for no reason.Adam *********
My comment responding to you was about these anonymous accounts fear mongering. If an anonymous account doesn’t do it, then it isn’t the same, right?
My question is, where are all of the actual accounts that are saying they are denied entry, or there’s a mysterious sign, or I heard from my granny’s 6th cousin that he was deported
Somehow there’s
My question is, where are all of the actual accounts that are saying they are denied entry, or there’s a mysterious sign, or I heard from my granny’s 6th cousin that he was deported
Somehow there’s
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th the amount of those as there are with these anonymous accounts. OddAnonymous ******************
@Adam ********
Fear-mongering about what exactly? She/He posted a photo from the Chiang Khong border. Have you verified otherwise? Why assume an anonymous source can’t share something valid? By your logic all the anonymous posts about smooth border crossings must be lies too right? 😂
Benjamin *********
Impossible to book a 6 month later flight
Thomas **********
@Benjamin ********
I don't know where you're from, but in Germany I can do bookings from the same day up to 333 days in advance...😆Benjamin *********
Thomas Johannes not from the way back
Sandra ****************
@Benjamin ********
you can book flights roughly 330 days in advanceBenjamin *********
Sandra Henning Lüdin stop dreaming when I buy 2 way ticket it’s impossible
Anonymous ******************
@Benjamin ********
Of course it is possible. Where are you buying your tickets? 😅Luit *****************
@Benjamin ********
that just is not true, over a month before travel I booked my return flight for 5 months, so at that moment it was over 6 months.Most companies accept 11 or 12 months.
Ivan ************
@Luit ****************
it's not generally cost efficient and particularly not at the moment. Many people don't know what they are going to do in 6 months. Hence why it's not a requirement.Plus, as others have said, you can get an extension. With your logic all Elite and retirement visa holders should have a flight back out at well, there is no guarantee they will get an extension either.
That is isn't a problem for you personally doesn't mean it's not a problem for anyone else. No one getting this visa expected to be asked for flight tickets out and no one has to date, to the best of my knowledge. So quit acting like it's a normal or reasonable request, it's not.
Luit *****************
@Ivan ***********
I also did return flights the other way around, it makes not much difference, apart from the fact you have no proof of onward travel.I think that just like the
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baht cash it is mainly used when IO has also other reasons to deny you entry.And yes I think it is not reasonable that you need to have a return flight im your current stay when extension is just a formality, but it as also understandable from their point of view and with refundable tickets those problems can be solved.
Ivan ************
@Lu**
you are entirely correct it's technically possible to book flights six months out. I'm taking issue with the idea that this is no problem for anyone if they started to require it. Particularly right now when prices are insane and it's unclear what it will be like in six months.For you, if you are primarily based in Europe, then yes a return makes sense and is cheaper. I primarily live here; and so while I do usually return to Europe at least once a year (and typically go somewhere else around burning season) I'm doing the return in the opposite direction. So my "return" portion is back here, to Chiang Mai.
Elite is technically also another tourist visa. Do you think it would be reasonable to ask them for flights out too?
Luit *****************
@Ivan ***********
I thought this discussion with @Benjamin ********
was about the fact that tickets for over 6 months are perfectly available, and most times a return ticket is cheaper than two single tickets.And since you refer to the current situation, my return ticket was cheaper than a single ticket now...
The fact that they don't take into account you can get an extension is also with other tourist visa or visa exempt.
Benjamin *********
@Luit ****************
wrong. ImpossibleLuit *****************
@Benjamin ********
In my world October 8 2025 plus 6 months is April 8 2026, and 21 is more than 8, so ckearly over 6 months.But maybe you had more useful things to do at elementary school when it came to this subject, but then it would be more wise not to spout this nonsense by now.
Benjamin *********
@Luit ****************
not 6Luit *****************
@Benjamin ********
Who told you so? I have my ticket, nothing impossible.When you ask Google you will find 11 till 12 months, but I guess my airline was wrong and did not consult you before selling me the ticket.
On October 8 2025 I booked flight with EVA air from Bangkok to Amsterdam on April 21 2026.
When I calculate that is over 6 months.
Nan *********
Winston ************
Whatever! I only fly in into BKK or DMK. I don't intend to use a land-border, ever.
Christopher ***********
@Winston ***********
From the verifiable reports nobody with a DTV has problems entering either by air or land.
DTV_Be*******
Welcome to Thailand
This is just another iteration you have to learn in the ever changing environment of immigration
You’ll either accept it or find another place to stay
It’s a magical place
This is just another iteration you have to learn in the ever changing environment of immigration
You’ll either accept it or find another place to stay
It’s a magical place
Christopher ***********
DTV_Begpacker Nothing has changed. One photo of unenforced requirements. Meaningless. Majority of retirees have to apply for 12 months extensions, proving savings or income each time. DTV holders are very well placed. Nothing for them to prove for the next five years.
George ******
DTV_Begpackerthere’s a big difference between new rules, and whether they will actually enforce those rules
Especially as a lot of people use visa run companies. Who pay them to make sure their customers don’t have problems
Especially as a lot of people use visa run companies. Who pay them to make sure their customers don’t have problems
DTV_Be*******
Inspiring**********
DTV_Begpacker 💯. There are so many new people to Thailand with this visa who have no idea how things work. I fall off my chair laighing hearing about people's 'rights' they think they have because they got approved for a 10k baht visa
Christopher ***********
InspiringAlpaca5609 You mean DTV holders are laughing at you. For a mere 10,000 THB and with no further requirements they have unrestricted entries to Thailand for the next five years. Anyone who claims otherwise is a troll.
James ********
InspiringAlpaca5609 Amen to that 🤣
DTV_Be*******
InspiringAlpaca5609 so true
Lynny ****
Just arrive bkk airport everything is smooth no questions, stamp with smile❤️
Bruno ************
@Lynny ***
they are so happy people come in!
Chuck *******
I did a border run there last week on my DTV. The officer was very friendly and welcoming upon my return back in Thailand. I only stayed in Laos for about 1 minute. He didn't ask any questions or ask to see any documents. Stamped me in for another 180 days. He was a happy guy.
Michael ********
@James *******
what
Lance ***************
@Chuck ******
BKK must be a nightmare the north is always so much more chillGeorge ******
@Chuck ******
one minute is generally not average. Usually have to wait for the bus to take you backBut yeah, did mine last Friday and had no problems. Although I did use a visa run agency, and I think they give the guys coffee money so there’s never problems
Chuck *******
@George *****
the whole process from the time I got off my bike in the Thai side parking lot to getting back on my bike and going back home was 30 minutes exactly. This included everything including the 3 IO's and 2 bus rides.The 1 minute refers to the amount of time waiting for the bus after getting my entry and exit stamp on the Laos side.
It was a very efficient and quick process. Faster than I anticipated, but there were 0 people in line on either side each time I had to go to the IO. I was there about 10:30 in the morning.
Michael ********
@Chuck ******
okay I got it.Chuck *******
@Michael *******
everyone's situation is different. For me, this was the easiest option as it let me go for a nice ride and I didnt have to go to an airport and waste even more money on return flights and all the $ that goes along with it. I've done the trips to surrounding countries before and this was just something I wanted to try, a land border crossing. It was easier and cheaper than any other run I have done in the past.George ******
@Chuck ******
yeah i've had it once where i've done the laos visa stuff and the bus that took me across the bridge is just about to leave to go back. which only took about a minute. but i've done it four other times where you have to wait about 30min+ for the next buswasn't trying to nitpick what you said. just thought it would be helpful for other people to know it doesn't usually take a minute. and there's no way of leaving a message under your comment without it being a reply
James ********
@Michael *******
where and how far from where one lives are key questions to ask.Michael ********
@Chuck ******
but there is better options than Laos without visa feeMichael ********
@Chuck ******
why you go Laos and waste 50usd for visa?James ********
@Michael *******
to get the 180 day stampChuck *******
@James *******
exactly
Ian **********
@Chuck ******
Did you see the sign?Chuck *******
@Ian *********
i did notice there were multiple signs at thai IO window but I didnt take the time to read any of them. I can't say if this specific one was there or not, but it was just last week.
Evelyn *******
@Chuck ******
1 minute?😱Chuck *******
@Evelyn ******
the officer at Laos immigration VOA window asked me how long is was going to stay in Laos. I said I was going directly back to Thailand and no intention of staying in Laos. She asked if i asked the Thai IO if that was ok and if i would have problems entering Thailand. I said i didnt ask because i have a multiple entry visa. She said ok and stamped me in and out at the same time and told me to go get on the bus back to Thailand. So I guess it wasnt even a minute.Evelyn *******
@Chuck ******
woww that’s awesome😀 thanks for sharing, I thought would have too leave for at least few weeks
Ειρήνη ***********
@Chuck ******
from which border ?Chuck *******
Elías ********
I saw this or a similar photo a few months ago. I think it's legit BUT restricted to that specific border point.
Aaron *****
I have yet to have any issues coming into BKK, so I will continue to do so.
DelightfulC************
Does this apply to airports too?
Ian **********
DelightfulCranberry7447 No it is just this border point
Elías ********
DelightfulCranberry7447 definitely not. I enter 1-2 times per month on my DTV. I've never been asked a thing. Said so, IF they ask, I can show them whatever they need.
DelightfulC************
@Elías *******
my 180 days is up in May but I’m currently outside of Thailand and always leave well before I get close.DelightfulC************
@Elías *******
sorry you misunderstood me. My 180 days is May 2nd but I left early this go around.Elías ********
DelightfulCranberry7447 then May is not your 180 days. It always resets upon each entry.
DelightfulC************
@Elías *******
I’ve been out of the country 4 times since receiving my end of summer last year and no questions asked period. I do know land crossings are much more strict.
Toni *******
It was there on 9th december when I did my 5minute border run. No questions asked
George *******
I'd everything prepared before I landed in Bkk and nothing except passport and dtv qr code was required.
Luit *****************
@George ******
that is indeed what is normal, but checks are possible and then being prepared indeed is more efficient.George *******
@Luit ****************
of course
IndigoG********
2000 baht fixes it
Mausil******
Aiming at tea money. Don't feed corruption.
Mausil******
IndigoGrape5836 that's what they are aiming at. Don't feed corruption.
GenuinePin**********
Wow, looks official because they scotch-taped 3 sides 🤣
GenuinePin**********
GenuinePineapple2858 on a less humorous note, consider this… someone who doesn’t speak English, is told to print DTV requirements. They find this, which they assume is correct without reading it. They hang it somewhere. They go back to their station and stamp people in without asking for bank statements and documents, lol. Think about it
Kristian ********
GenuinePineapple2858 100% so every chill.
THENA******
Going out of their way to turn people away... VN will become the next go to destination.
JP *******
THENATAS666 name the visa you apply for in Vietnam?
I’ll wait…
I’ll wait…
THENA******
Lynnette *******
THENATAS666 how is following correct entry requirements, going to turn legitimate dtv holders away? What a bizarre post.
Marc ********
THENATAS666 so tired of the lame vietnam comment😅
THENA******
@Marc *******
their economy is doing way better than TH, regardless if it hurt your you feelings 😘Marc ********
THENATAS666 it will not hurt my feelings but the comment gets old.
Boring. Two different countries.
With very different laws. So it's not really an altermative
Boring. Two different countries.
With very different laws. So it's not really an altermative
Luit *****************
THENATAS666 What has that to do with DTV? Obviously you are frustrated about Thai visa policy, that is your good right, but Vietnam is just offtopic here.
DTV_Be*******
THENATAS666 you have to depart every 90 days
Cambodia easiest visas in SEAsia
Cambodia easiest visas in SEAsia
THENA******
DTV_Begpacker Cambodia is a 💩 hole, almost as bad as the Philippines 😇
Maitin *******
DTV_Begpacker citizenship is cheap and easy... Maybe if things change a Cambodian (ASEAN) passport would be nice.
THENA******
DTV_Begpacker yes it does, for a reason, no one in their right mind would want to live in either of them.
DTV_Be*******
THENATAS666 it has the easiest visas in SEAsia
Guy ***********
DTV_Begpacker 180 days, not 90. Just need to report your current address every 90 days, takes a few minutes at immigration, and after you report once in person following reports can be done online
DTV_Be*******
@Guy **********
uhhh I was talking about Vietnam not Thailand
But thank you for the general knowledge information
Luit *****************
@Guy **********
problem is only the following reports of the same stay can be done online, which for DTV is often zero.Luit *****************
THENATAS666 Please go to VN, with this attitude TH does not need you.
It would be better for everybody who applies for the right visa that rules are enforced.
It would be better for everybody who applies for the right visa that rules are enforced.
Lachlan **********
@Luit ****************
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Pool ******
@Luit ****************
Vietnam has no long term visa.Luit *****************
Pool Cool I know, but some people here always have to mention in Vietnam everything is better when something in Thailand happens that make their creative use of the Thai visa system more difficult.
Maitin *******
@Luit ****************
absolutely... VN is nice for a visit but seriously lacks the infrastructure, healthcare and amenities that Thailand offers. So by all means go to VN, we won't miss youWayne *******
@Luit ****************
You're hilariousAdam *********
@Luit ****************
It's not about rules it's about 💸. Have you not caught onto that yet?Luit *****************
Adam Mileson To me it looks like Thailand wants to enforce more rules, and when you follow the news you also will notice that enforcing now in some situations also works as cooperation between different departments.
Anonymous ******************
@Luit ****************
they applied for the right visa, hence them having a dtv visa, what's with all these requirements, his correct with his criticisms, I'd be pissed off as well if I had some old war horse that's done the rounds as a partner....Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 176 With DTV you choose a visa with a number of requirements.
When those requirements are not acceptable you should have chosen a different visa.
It is perfectly normal that every now and then Immigration will check for requirements, that is just their job.
When those requirements are not acceptable you should have chosen a different visa.
It is perfectly normal that every now and then Immigration will check for requirements, that is just their job.
THENA******
@Luit ****************
I have the right visas and live in both so stfu with those stupid comments about leaving...Luit *****************
THENATAS666 It are your own words " VN is the place to go" not my words.
So just go there if you think it is better.
So just go there if you think it is better.
Relaxing********
Wdaf? 😬👀 these should be requirements for getting the visa, not entering the country
Steve ******
RelaxingFrog7053 And proof of outbound flight isn't a requirement at all.
Maitin *******
RelaxingFrog7053 the visa has requirements and you need to maintain those requirements.
Luffy ******
Giorgio Condor you're a little bit of a smoothbrain, huh? lmao
Giorgio ********
Luffy Monk if you are ignorant it is not my problem
Giorgio ********
RelaxingFrog7053 in every country you go you must take with you the documentation about your visa when you enter the country
Luit *****************
RelaxingFrog7053 Where did you find that entry requirements are different?
I know this group has some creative members that keep saying the requirements are only valid at application time and laugh about it when you tell embassies and Immigration have another opinion.
But none of these jokers did come up with any proof of their illogical ideas, and discussion with them is useless because thei only believe their own imagination.
I know this group has some creative members that keep saying the requirements are only valid at application time and laugh about it when you tell embassies and Immigration have another opinion.
But none of these jokers did come up with any proof of their illogical ideas, and discussion with them is useless because thei only believe their own imagination.
Sam *******
@Luit ****************
ffs he is clearly stating his opinion and not trying to present something as a statement of fact
Tore *********
@Ryan ********
really??? Maybe you should go back and check. Most people with some common sense do. But very few of us are bored enough to follow this deep into the thread. Look at the l1 comments…Common sense goes a long way
Tore *********
Luit *****************
@Ryan ********
I do see people agree with me, but you are only a funny joker.When you would disappear no one would even notice, plenty of replacements for you here.
Freddie *********
@Luit ****************
he literally said should
Ryan *********
@Luit ****************
notice how no one agrees with you 🤣🤣 your opinion doesnt matter. You could dissappear and no one would care 🤣🤣🤣Luit *****************
@Ryan ********
You compare apples with oranges, a drivers license is a proof of your skills, at least it should be.A visa is not based on skills but about your situation.
So you comparison is just stupid, and it is perfectly logical that base documents should be accessible by IO.
Some countries like Schengen countries even state this the moment you get the visa.
The year 2026 will not change anything to this logic, unless you see people like you, not understanding base logic as a symptom of this time.
Ryan *********
@Tore ********
this is the equivalent of getting your driver's license but needing to carry all the documents you used to apply for your license on you at all times. Yes, its fairly reasonable to assume that in the year 2026 people have more sense then that but obviously we have people like you in this world, unfortunately. Yes its their country and they can do what they want, that doesnt make it logical.George ******
@Luit ****************
you’re right. The rules will probably be implemented very arbitrarily. Depending on the day, the officer, and the tourist But it’s their country. And their right to turn away tourists who don't meet the requirements
Tore *********
@Luit ****************
Ive starting ignoring these bizarre people that can’t even read. Its bizarre anyone would think the visa conditions magically would disappear once you have the visa. Its so absurd there’s no point arguing with it any more.Michael ********
@Ash *********
he is a troll with no knowledge
Anonymous ******************
@Ash *********
ignore him, I bet he’s having naughty dreams about a nanny state. “Regulate me harder!”
Ash **********
@Luit ****************
I really enjoyed that you took a sentence that I qualified as my opinion related to my experience and tried to claim assertion of fact yet again.I'm done here. (that was a statement of fact)
Good day.
Luit *****************
@Ash *********
The fact that you were not checked in your 5 entries does noet mean that the (un) official publication does not matter.They just put attention to rules and ask for cooperation.
A lot of those rules are only in place to have the possibility to deny entry if they see a reason.
How many or maybe better how little people are asked to show
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THB cash or equivalent?But that does not make that that rule doesn't matter.
This discussion about opinion or statement is indeed quite useless, but I did not start that, I just reacted.
Ash **********
@Luit ****************
all I know is, I quoted you... You're in your own way, champ. IMO, you're all bent out of shape over his OPINION. Additionally, none of this matters anyway, as in my 5 entries with my DTV no questions have ever been asked. (that was my opinion based upon my personal experience, just so there's no confusion 😉)
Luit *****************
@Ash *********
I did pick a lane, I see it as a statement, I miss words that would make it an opinion.Ash **********
@Luit ****************
I copied and pasted your assertion, so, pick a lane...Luit *****************
@Ash *********
I miss the word "think" which you use in his remark. If he had used that it would clearly be an opinion, but now it looks like a statement.Luit *****************
Sam Lotti I see "Immigration is making a mistake" as a statement, but if you see it as an opinion you're free to do so.
For an opinion he better should have used "IMO" or "I think" and not just "these should" which makes it a statement in my opinion.
For an opinion he better should have used "IMO" or "I think" and not just "these should" which makes it a statement in my opinion.
Ash **********
@Luit ****************
" I read it as if he thinks Immigration is making a mistake " would literally be their opinion.Luit *****************
Sam Lotti My comment is general, not to somebody personal.
It is not always clear what is an opinion and what is presented, but in this particular case I read it as if he thinks Immigration is making a mistake by just asking foreigners to have proof of requirements ready.
It is not always clear what is an opinion and what is presented, but in this particular case I read it as if he thinks Immigration is making a mistake by just asking foreigners to have proof of requirements ready.
Frank-Steven ***********
If true, they are getting real creative there in making things up. 1-3 makes sense. But the rest? There is no legal requirement for an outbound flight for DTV holders. And 5 and 6 were already deeply checked and satisfied at the time the visa was issued. "Welcome to Thailand", indeed.
Bruno ***********
@Frank-Steven **********
outbound flight is a requirement for nearly all visitor visas around the worldAsh **********
Bruno Vaglienti "Nearly"...
Bruno ***********
@Ash *********
it was ok for the check in agent, but not necessarily for the IO if he goes deeper.Ash **********
Bruno Vaglienti I've been asked once by the airline if I had a return ticket. I said no, I have a visa. I showed the visa, and that was the end of it.
Bruno ***********
@Ash *********
I can't swear it is 100% as I don't know rules of each country of the world More than happy to read which country lets you enter temporarily without the knowledge you will get out at some point
Not for nothing they don't let you in if your passport hasn't a 6 month validity still left, for instance
Lots of checks are done by airlines at check in
So maybe you don't notice it.
I have been asked numerous times if I had an outbound ticket (I was flying with different tickets at that time)
Anonymous ******************
@Frank-Steven **********
5 and 6 are even sometimes checked for other visa holders randomly (ED for ex). And we are talking about 1 year visas, not 5.Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 407 and that is completely correct, IO can always check if purpose of visit matches with purpose of visit of the visa, DTV is no exception on this.
Luit *****************
@Frank-Steven **********
For visa with a limited stay, IO can ask for outbound travel.The fact that 5 and 6 were checked at moment of approval is not a guarantee they are stlll OK, so it is up to IO to check or not, and certainly not creative.
The outbound travel might be seen as extra check, but I think you will not be refused as long as you comply with all further requirements.
AllSabaai ******
@Frank-Steven **********
let's just make some points clear here. 1- Your are not in a position to decide what is legal required or not legal required.
Your entry is up to the IO decision.
So let's be clear here that holding a visa doesn't mean you have the full power to decide what they can ask
2 - DTV is considered as some special type of Tourist visa so, they can apply the terms of Tourist visa on the commers holing it
Which includes accommodation proof, fund, return ticket within the period of stay.
AllSabaai ******
@Luit ****************
apologize .The mentioned was mistakenly have your name.
While the targeted comment owner was not mentioned.
I have edit it ...
Thank you ka 🙏
Luit *****************
@AllSabaai *****
I agree 100 percent with you, that exactly was my point.Frank-Steven ***********
@Luit ****************
Let’s just agree to disagree. There is different requirements for a) visa issuance, b) extensions, c) border crossings. The DTV is a 5-year long term visa, no return flight requirement. Properly checken 5 and 6 again at some land border based off of complex international documents won’t properly work anyways.Luit *****************
@Frank-Steven **********
We are different in our approach of the Thai laws, your focus is on what is not explicitly mentioned and I focus on how each article can be used in not explicitly described situation.And you can clearly see the law is not written to describe the rights of "the alien".
Frank-Steven ***********
@Luit ****************
The only law governing the immigration officers at the border deciding entry into Thailand or not is the Thai Immigration Act of 1979. I have linked an unofficial English translation for you. In 95% IO that deny someone entry they use the 12.2. Pay particular note to Section 12 in general, as it is an exhaustive list of reasons to deny someone entry. **************************************************************
Luit *****************
@Frank-Steven **********
It is nice there is a special law for DTV, but that does NOT describe all the exceptions on general immigration law you suggest there are for DTV, so what makes you think that requirements written in the law you mention are not valid anymore when it comes to IO.What do you think might be the reason for visa requirements when they should not be applicable anymore the moment you visit the country.
Frank-Steven ***********
@Luit ****************
May I ask if you even read the respective official underlying laws? There is a law published particularly on the DTV and its requirements. I shared it here before. That is for issuing the DTV. Then, when it comes to the authorities of immigration officers making their decisions, a completely different law is basis - the Thai Immigration Act. Yes IO can check if somebody entering has sufficient funds. But, there is a reason why in most cases where people are denied entry at the border, the IO actually almost always resorts to denying entry based off of „insufficient funds“. Because there are very few other legal reasons to deny entry. But as we all know, this isn’t exactly a country governed mainly by rule of law. ☺️Luit *****************
@Frank-Steven **********
OK, fine to disagree, I agree that most times it is too complex to check, but nowhere in law is stated the difference between your a, b and c type of requirements.Of course they normally will not check for practical reasons, even relative simple checks like the 20k cash requirement would generate chaos when everyone was checked.
DTV is NOT a 5 year long term visa, at the moment you arrive you get 180 days to leave the country
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