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What are the pros and cons of the DTV and ED visa in Thailand?

Anonymous *************
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I'm trying to decide between applying for a DTV or an ED visa. Anyone have experience with either? What are the pros and cons?
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The discussion focuses on choosing between the DTV and ED visas for living in Thailand. Key considerations include the nature of the visa, with the DTV offering longer validity and flexibility (up to 5 years) and the ED requiring enrollment in a full-time study program with strict attendance and renewal every three months. Participants share experiences and opinions regarding the quality of educational programs, the implications of each visa type on travel, and the administrative requirements involved. Factors such as duration of stay, commitment to studies, and personal preferences play a significant role in deciding between the two options.
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Rich ****
Rich ****
Some great schools in Chiang Mai if you really want to learn Thai.
Gab ****
Gab ****
100% dtv specially if you can do yourself
Tommy ********
Tommy ********
Like you have a choice. It depends what you’re eligible for not your own decision
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
If you’re planning on staying in Thailand for less than a couple of years then I’m sure an ED visa is fine, but forget trying to live here long term on ED visas
Amanda ************
Amanda ************
I did massage training during the early pandemic days as an option to stay. It was required to be in sessions 3 days a week 2-3 hours I believe. You are intended to make the full commitment. You can’t just sign up and not show up because you have to file for extensions (if doing a long form program) and the school will have the records. At least that’s how it was for me.

Overall I enjoyed my experience but also learned that I don’t want to give massage- receiving suits me better 😂

I now have dtv medical and I much prefer the flexibility.

Good luck!
Lor ******
Lor ******
@Amanda ***********
what is DTV medical can you elaborate please
Amanda ************
Amanda ************
@Lor *****
just hit that Google or ChatGPT search. It will be more up to date with all the current details. Not meaning to be rude but all the info is there if you look for it and I don’t have the time or energy to do it for you.
Amanda ************
Amanda ************
@Lor *****
I applied on my own. No agent needed.
James ********
James ********
@Lor *****
what is it you are really wanting to do?

How long do you plan on staying in Thailand?

What's your passport nation?
Lor ******
Lor ******
@Amanda ***********
yes I can do it I thought you already knew a specific place that you recommend and had their information.

-My bad -
Amanda ************
Amanda ************
@Lor *****
it’s the soft power option. Along with muy Thai and cooking classes option.
Lor ******
Lor ******
@Amanda ***********
nice. 🌟

Can you send me more information or links in my inbox please I want to cone this Nov
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
I had a ED but it’s really only about the visa, the best teachers a private once. Now I am on a DTV with a private teacher. With ED you can’t easily leave the country or travel around.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
ED visa is only 90 days at a time. Every 3 months you'll have to go to immigration and apply for and pay for another extension. Maximum of 1 year. You'll also be unable to leave Thailand during this time as you have a high likelihood of being pulled out of line and interrogated about why you need a visa to study in Thailand when you're not staying in Thailand but leaving. Also you'll probably be pulled out of line upon entry for many years after your ED finishes, since it's the most abused visa type.

DTV is worry free 5 years in and out as much as you want, but you'll likely need to leave and return at least once every 6 months.
Peter ****
Peter ****
Thai teachings are one of the worst in the world, even for Muay Thai (most clubs are horrible)
Christina ********
Christina ********
@Peter ***
oh dang
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Peter ***
sounds like you’ve been training in the wrong gyms
Marianne ********
Marianne ********
Are you going to be doing any kind of remote work?

DTV is your only legal option.
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
@Marianne *******
DTV can be used for study and medical treatment
Marianne ********
Marianne ********
@Andrew *******
Sure.

But that was not a part of my statement.

I am asking if the person is going to be working remotely.

If they are, the ED is simply not an option.
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
@Marianne *******
oh ok makes more sense that way to me.
Marianne ********
Marianne ********
@Andrew *******
You are a tax resident when you have been in Thailand 180 days during a calendar year. Those days do not need to be consecutively.
Dany ********
Dany ********
@Andrew *******
thausands of people work remotely under ED, TR, Elite, Marriage, Retirement Visa, etc… No one gets problems if you purely work remote for non thai entities.
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
@Marianne *******
the DTV is not working in thailand its remote working there isn't a work permit involved for thailand there is a whole different visa for that.

That is also why the dtv is good for 180 days then you leave come back, you will not be considered taxable until you are here past 180 days consecutive
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
@Dany *******
yes it is if they get caught its a fine and deported
Dany ********
Dany ********
@Marianne *******
many people work on their ED. its not really a problem
Andrew ********
Andrew ********
Its about personal choice, I went the ed route with self defense. I was able to upgrade to ED visa while in thailand on visa exempt. DTV you cant.

I started the ed visa upgrade after a few days on my arrival and got it back just before my visa exempt expired. It takes about 2 months turn around.

I spent my time on visa exempt exploring and enjoying my time here while I had free time. Once my Ed visa was approved I started taking classes.

The down side is the 1 yr ed visa stamp is good for 3 months and you have to renew it 1900 baht every three months AND still do 90 day check in.

The school you apply to should help you with the paper work and fees associated in the school fees.

DTV you have to apply for it outside thailand and you get 180 days before you either extend or leave and come back. I urge people to keep the money in savings at all times.

Immigration has been asking to verify the savings amount required and if you dont have it they will deny entry and cancel your DTV.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Andrew *******
since when have immigration been asking to verify the savings amount? I don’t think this is true at all. I’m sure if it were, they’d be lots of reports on here.
Lor ******
Lor ******
Anonymous participant 458 how much USD do you need in your savings fir DTV visa
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
@Andrew *******
your last paragraph is utter nonsense
Henrik *****
Henrik *****
If choosing ED, you have to be actually studying full time, show up to all classes, and pass tests.

It is also depending on what to study, several people has gotten an ED visa instead of the DTV, if the ED is better suited to the reasons for applying i.e. studying Thai language.
Rio **
Rio **
Do you plan on leaving the country often? If not no point in getting a DTV.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous ******************
ED ain’t really ED, Thai teachers don’t really know how to teach Thai properly due to their limited English, the typical ED visa is simply “Pass the immigration fixed questions in exchange for you to live in Thailand via the proper visa for 11 months”
Ilze *****************
Ilze *****************
Anonymous participant 211 what an anonymous BS!

I’m on ED visa, learning Thai and the teachers are fantastic, no problems with English knowledge.

The only issue is stupid people who join classes for visa only and then wastes everyone’s time when coming unprepared.
DTV_Be*******
DTV_Be*******
Anonymous participant 211

Take a Thai language course at Chula University and you will change your mind
Christina ********
Christina ********
Anonymous participant 211 makes sense and good to know bc I was contemplating going that route but I decided on soft power.
John *******
John *******
What are your specific needs?
Elías ********
Elías ********
It's not about pro and cons, it's about you. Would you be studying or?
Mercy *********
Mercy *********
DTV is longer and cheaper
Lor ******
Lor ******
@Mercy ********
what’s steps to successfully do DTV please any tips.
Mercy *********
Mercy *********
@Lor *****
that all depends on where you apply, how you plan to apply (soft power or workcation), and type of work if choosing workcation. Lots of people, including myself, have reported about the experience in this group. You can use the search function to find information related to your personal situation.

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