What are the pros and cons of choosing between the ED visa and DTV for learning Thai while working remotely in Thailand?

Jan 13, 2025
5 days ago
Kristi **************
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I’m considering the ED vs the DTV. My husband and I both want to learn Thai, but I also intend to work my remote job (I’m an independent mental health practitioner with a virtual practice). I’m reading that I would not be ALLOWED to work, even remotely, if I chose the ED route. The intention with choosing the ED route is to extend the total time we are able to stay…I would pick up the DTV after my ED is completed and my husband would come as my dependent. What problems or issues would you foresee? What advice would you offer? And is this something I should attempt to navigate without any professional guidance from someone who practices immigration law here in the USA? Side note to add, I’m planning for the future, not an immediate move. I’m also hoping that you guys can offer some advice on locations we should visit when we come as tourists (for 2 weeks or so) that would help us determine the area we want to focus on to settle in. We will be prioritizing safety, amenities, affordability and proximity to a school and an embassy or immigration office for future business.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion centers around the decision between the Education (ED) visa and the Digital Nomad Visa (DTV) for an expat couple intending to learn Thai and work remotely while living in Thailand. Key concerns include the legality of working remotely on an ED visa, the convenience and duration of the DTV, and the complications associated with visa renewals. Contributors suggest that while many people work remotely under an ED visa without issues, the DTV offers clearer regulations for remote work and a longer duration of stay. Potential challenges of the ED include frequent immigration visits and extensions, while the DTV simplifies matters with a 5-year term. Suggestions for locations to explore during their potential move were also shared, emphasizing the diversity of the Thai landscape and the importance of thorough research.
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Kina **********
depends on what category you put on DTV

as DTV is prohibited employment in Thailand

and design specifically for those who remote-works or nomad

(meaning to say, either you are self-employed or your employer are foreigner company)

ED visa must show up at immigration every three months

as it's language course and they just want to make sure

you are intended to use your visa correctly

mostly I just give advice to my students that they could

try for ED visa first if they not sure they gonna stay in Thailand for long run or so

then DTV if they experienced in Thailand and your lifestyle here (in your Thai language understanding)

but if compare what you gotta pay and flexible schedule ?

DTV way more convenient and the cost fee almost the same

when you average with 5 years term

my student just got approve from DTV cooking course this morning

hopefully this information is helpful
Anonymous ******************
How long are you planning on living in Thailand?

The only benefit i see for ED is you can easily open a bank account. You need to extend it every year which can be annoying if you live in BKK as immigration line takes all day. You'll also need to get a re-entry permit to leave and come back.

DTV is multi entry and lasts for 5 years. Only downside is it's difficult to open a bank account unless you get an agent or visit many branches.

I was on an ED then switched to DTV. Apply once and done for 5 years, don't have to think much about extension paperwork etc. I travel frequently so won't be staying more than 180 days consecutively
Christopher ********
Legally you can’t work on ED visa and come and go.

For DTV you need proof of remote job to get work permission
Clement ****************************
ED is not great, you'll be given a lot of trouble coming back to bangkok airport, if you intend to travel home or to neighboring countries.

If you plan on laying low and stay there for the whole duration, it might be a valid option, but DTV is better in every way.
Luit *****************
Just realize Thailand is a big country, with very different landscapes and climates.

It will be very difficult to get a good impression in 2 weeks.

So you have to think first what is most important for you.

You can find almost anything you might want, apart from show maybe.

It is relatively easy and cheap to travel across the country by bus, train or plane.

You can find areas with a lot of foreigners, but also areas complete without foreigners.
John **********
Get the appropriate visa for what you want to do, for remote working that's the DTV. Your husband can get his own DTV based on being your spouse. You can still study thai if you want to.
Dany ********
Thausands of people work/worked remotely for non-thai entities under the ED and it was never ever a problem. They dont really consider that work and no one cares.

You could also get the DTV. Its for 5 years. after 5 years you get a new DTV. not sure why you want to maximize time with the ED. but both are great visa options and fairly easy to get and maintain. You can even do multiple years on multiple ED. no problem.

i can recommend Krabi. We have an amazing small language school in ao nang and the process is super easy. and the immigration office in krabi is one of the best in the country. everything is done very quickly and without a problem.
Todd *********
@Dennis ********
extremely unlikely to be one and done
Todd *********
@Dennis ********
you can continue on and be afraid forever. Or make strong decisions. Luck always favours the brave.
Biff *******
I think there are many people on ED visas who do work remotely. This is one of the reasons the DTV was brought in. It’s been a great area for a number of years. Very difficult previously to find a legal way of working remotely where your clients and business is outside of Thailand. I mean, it’s clear what you need to do to work IN Thailand, for a Thai company but previously there were few options for remote working.

So you probably could quietly work remotely on an ED visa but it presents its own challenges and now the DTV exists, if you don’t have to get an ED visa I’m not sure why you would. As for legal advice from a US immigration lawyer. That would be a pointless waste of money. Either visa you’re considering can be obtained without the help of professionals.

Where you want to relocate to, now that’s a whole other kettle of fish.

Internet speeds are important to me; I was in a nice apartment in Bangkok and the speed was 30mg up at best.

In Phuket now and it’s 500

That doesn’t mean it’s like that all over those places. It’s building specific so I think your location would best be a completely different research project for you and is outside the scope of this group. There are groups from pretty much every major city in Thailand though so you’ll have no shortage of options once you’re ready.

Good luck with it all 😊
Kristi **************
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@Biff ******
I have a starlink satellite but haven’t yet looked into whether or not it’s possible to use it there…
Todd *********
@Kristi *************
star link is poor compared to normal Thai internet
Quincy *******
@Kristi *************
starlink works out here. But Fiber Optic internet is also very good out here too and affordable. Even with my vpn, I managed to pull 600 up and down

That being said, if you have plans to be out in the sticks or someplace remote, then yes, Starlink is not a bad idea to have
John **********
@Quincy ******
I live out in the sticks and get 500mb throughput on my broadband
Quincy *******
@John *********
I honestly love to hear that. Gives me hope for my future plans of a life out in the sticks.
Biff *******
@Kristi *************
ok. What I probably wasn’t clear about was that you can find different levels of amenities in the same city. So, many places in Bangkok have great services and many don’t. Sane in Phuket or anywhere else. You’ll need to do a bit of a deep dive into specific areas to get a more objective idea of what you can expect 😊
Kristi **************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Biff ******
you were clear, and I appreciate it, thanks! The satellite comment I made was just because it only occurred to me as I was reading your message…I got a little curious about the question and just went down a rabbit hole researching it 😂
Biff *******
@Kristi *************
The first of many rabbit holes in your future I imagine 😀
Quincy *******
Just do the ED, then xfer to a DTV after. Or, get your DTV and take language classes with your DTV