Is it possible to avoid the 90-day reporting with a DTV visa in Thailand?

@Paul ******

you are completely mistaken.

90 days starts when you enter Thailand, not leave.

You make the report when being in the country 90 consecutive days, period. It's the grace period to report, it's not a period to extend the reporting. It's pretty darn simple. It doesn't mean you can leave without reporting requirement from day 90-97.

@Wannikea ********

BUT if you leave Thailand no later than 97 days after having first entered, the 90 day reporting period resets! That's because they won't or can't fine you until after 7 days have elapsed following the 90 days because that's the grace period.

@Paul ******

huh? 97 days?

The report is due to report that you have spent 90 consecutive days in Thailand. Not 91 or 97. The 7 days after is a reporting grace period to DO the report in person. It must be done.

@Vitaly *******

It's a 10 year visa, 5 years for start plus one extension (5 years). Reporting is once per year, but you can use an agent or sent any person with a power of attorney.

For Elite-Visa... they must report every 90 days, but the package includes a concierge service. No need to take care by yourself...

@Vitaly *******

NO. For the LTR visas, they don't deal with immigration for 5 years apart from the 12 month reports.

@Paul ******

if you're required to do 365-day reports (which is an automatic thing as you have to go to the immigration for an extension anyway) instead of 90-day ones, that's definitely means "exempt from 90-day reporting"

@Vitaly *******

Useless or not... as you see is the reporting a big drama for some people... whyever...

Well... I like to do it in person... we have three offices here. The main office has a drive through counter, the branches do walk in. 5 to 10 minutes and you are on your way home... with your passport and a new slip... :-)

@Stephan **********

it's absolutely effing useless, no one in their right mind would use this "service". You can do it online in about 30s or waste a few hours and drop your passport off at their office and then pick it up it a few days later. And it's Bangkok only

@Nga *************

OK. What is the panic about having to do a 90 day report though. It is easy and no hassle at all. The DTV is a great visa and people bedwetting over a small requirement.

@Nga *************

No, not everyone is me, but even here are more than enough people who complain about it. Anyhow... it is what it is... we will not change the rules here (sadly).

I totally understand what you say, that it can be a kind of burden, but on the other side there are options... more than some years ago already... online, agent, anyone with power of attorney, different visa... no need to do it in person.

@Greg *******

Yep. exactly what I do... I have some nice places around any available office here... restaurant, coffeeshop, shopping, quick visit at the beach... :-)

@Stephan **********

I go to the office to report too as I go to a nice restaurant close by and an expat shop. Make a morning of it. :-)

@Greg *******

If you stay in Thailand just over 90 days each time, you'd have to go to IO each time. That's why I said 95-100 days each stay as an example.

@Stephan **********

Stressful? How do these people get through life? As for rendering there is a piece of paper stapled into you passport with a records of doing the 90 day with the next date required on it too.

@Stephan **********

Good for you, that's you. Not everyone else is you. Some of us live far away from IOs without personal transportation, so going to the "local" IO every few months can be a whole ordeal. Some of us are old or sick or disabled and struggle to make the trip. Some of us are too ADHD to comfortably navigate this much bureaucracy, the frequent requirements generate a lot of extra mental load. Some are multiple of those things and more. It's a diverse world.

The process has been simplified, perhaps, but let's not kid ourselves that so many of these steps have to be this burdensome, or that there has to be so many steps.

(Personally, I keep beating myself up for not trying to move to the US or some EU country this time instead because I know for a fact that it's a million times simpler for me. But from the outside, without any frame of reference, I did not realize it would be this convoluted)

@Nga *************

Sorry why do you need to visit IO if you return from a trip? The 90 days resets upon entry. For years I never did a 90 day as I travelled on business while on a B and WP. As for rendering to do it just look in yiur passport. There is the 90 day report in there along with the next date required.r

@Nga *************

Um... what can I say... I did more than 50 reports now already, all in person, and I'm still not stressed out by that. But... to be honest... it's pretty easy here... 3 offices, walk in or drive through, 5-10 minutes and you are done.

Is it a bit annoying? Yes. Is it stressful? Not for me. And there is still the option to do it online... it works pretty well since they "renovated" the system, they will remind you per mail, really not a big thing.

@Stephan **********

having to remember to do it every 3 months is very annoying and stressful and difficult for certain people. Plus you can't stack the initial appointment with your extension of stay application. And if you leave Thailand every 95-100 days or so, it means visiting the IO every single time you return from a trip.

@Greg *******

Yeah... for some people the 90 day seems to be the big showstopper... whyever. Since they really fixed the Onlinesystem it's pretty easy going.

@Stephan **********

I do not know either as I did not watch it all. I still do not understand this "Fear" of 90 day reporting. I just answered in another thread. It is not complex or hard to do.