How do TM30 rules apply when renting accommodation on a tourist visa in Thailand?

Mar 4, 2024
8 months ago
Adriana **********
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question about tm30 !! i'm about to rent a yearly accommodation, but will be on tourist visa for awhile as i need to leave for some periods of time to bring my things over and finish work and such. so i'm wondering how tm30 extensions work when you're doing a year rental, does this raise red flags ? thanks in advance :)
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The TM30 requires property owners to report the residence of foreigners in Thailand. There is no TM30 extension; however, you must ensure your TM30 is filed upon your arrival if you move, and re-confirm your address at immigration within 24 hours of returning to Thailand. As long as your total stay on a tourist visa doesn't exceed the allowed limits, renting a year-long accommodation shouldn't raise red flags, although it's advisable to have genuine tourist plans to support your stay.
John ****
If you book into a hotel they will do your tm30 then ask for a copy before you go to immigration . Saves £1,600 fine
Adriana **********
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@John ***
thank you !!!!!
Rob **********
No such thing as a TM30 extension, think you are confusing yourself with an extension of visa, where you must have lodged a TM30 to receive your extension.
Wyn **********
If your moving around domestically no need for new TM30 but if you leave Thailand you need a new TM30.
Tom *********
"Aliens who are allowed to stay in The kingdom is temporary. If staying in the Kingdom for more than 90 days,

the foreigner has a duty to report his residence to the office staff. Immigration inspection every 90 days.

If any area has an immigration office located, you may notify the official at that office.

This is in accordance with Section 37(5) of the Immigration Act B.E. 1979."

A TM30 is required for anyone staying in the country for over 90 days. As a TR60 multiple entry tourist visa holder one is required to exit the country after 60 days. Technically 90 day reporting isn't required on a tourist visa as it's the responsibility of the accomodation provider to report your presence.
John ********
Tom Reubens you are very confused. 😐
Tom *********
Perhaps you should review English comprehension. I stated the 90 day report does not apply to tourist visa holders. Hotel operators file occupancy reports on tourist without them doing anything except handing over their passport when checking in. The law states OVER 90 days.
Andy **********
Tom Reubens although I'm sure you mean well, you shouldn't be giving advice if you're not 100% that advice is correct, I can see quite a few errors.
Kool *******
Tom Reubens you also stated that a TM30 is only required for anyone staying over 90 days, which is completely wrong. You also stated that a multi-entry tourist visa holder must leave every 60 days, which is also wrong. I suggest you be familiar with the rules before you pass on BS, as if you know.
Kool *******
@Tom ********
most of what you say is wrong, or has no reference to the OP. First, the TM30 has to be filed within 24 hours on any foreigner staying in Thailand, no matter where they are staying. Second, a tourist, on any kind of tourist entry, can only stay in Thailand continuously for 90 days at the most, the 60 day entry stamp, then the 30 day extension, at which point they must leave Thailand. They can re-entry, but still can stay in Thailand no more than 90 days max as a tourist, so the 90 day report is never a concern for tourists. A METV, multi-entry tourist visa holder can stay in Thailand for 90 days with the 30 day extension. They are not required to leave after 60 days. Also, the landlord/accommodation provider has absolutely nothing to do with the 90 day reporting.
Tom *********
@Adriana *********
the information in quotation marks was from the Thai immigration website.
Adriana **********
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@Tom ********
this is very helpful, thanks !!!
Andy **********
@Adriana *********
it is best just to listen to the admins of the group, some of these on here are giving you wrong advice.
Rok ********
You can “report yourself” at the closest immigration office within 24 hours of arrival. Do ensure the landlord is eventually able or willing to provide the blue book and the ID card details as you will certainly need this for long term visa extensions like TVR or Retirement. I am having problems as the managing agent cannot provide.
Bart **************
If you would be in the 'grey area' of a little too much time in Thailand on tourism-purposed allowances, where an IO hasn't made up their mind yet, your case would be helped most by showing genuinely touristic plans. Renting a condominium is not that. But it won't raise and red flags per se; as long as your total stay isn't excessive and you get the proper visa at the right point, you can proceed.

The TM 30 isn't required for entry by the way. A booking is required (but rarely checked). Take your rental contract to show proof of lodging. The TM30 is for immigrations when you extend your visa. Despite that they too ought to weigh your travel history to Thailand, there aren't any reports of them actually doing that. So any TM30 would suffice, condo or not.
Adriana **********
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@Bart *************
thank you this definitely helps clear a lot up !!!
Damo ***********
Whenever you arrive back into Thailand, it is a good idea to go to Immigration office within 24 hours to re-confirm your current address (ie. re-confirming the TM30).
Tony ********
@Damo **********
no need to go to immigration. Work with the owner to set up an online account for the property, (share the login info), so that you can print out a new pdf after each entry to country, so you dont have to report to the owner each time for him to do it, or spending time at immigration. But its unlikely you will need it if your not in country for more than 90 days or not dealing with the government. But best to get a copy of the initial one.
Sue **********
@Damo **********
I think you therefore need the approval from the landlord if you want to do it yourself, would be easier to let it have done by the landlord who did it the first time.
Roy ***********
@Sue *********
if you had a TM30 and are returning from out of the country to live at the same address, immigration and Chiang Mai will reissue a TM30 with no other papers than your passport and your prior TM 30. I have done this many times
Heather *******
Damo ***********
@Sue *********
sounds easier 🙏🏼
Brandon ************
There's no such thing as a TM30 Extension. No one approves TM30s. It's just an entry in a database made by property owners.
Adriana **********
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@Brandon ***********
i keep reading everywhere about tm30 extensions though ?????
Nigel **************
@Adriana *********
no you don't 😉😉 no such thing as TM30 extension. Check again where u read it.
Brandon ************
@Adriana *********
you need a TM30 in order to get an extension of stay in Thailand. But there's no such thing as a TM30 extension
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