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Do I need to report TM30 in Bangkok if staying with friends before heading to Pattaya?

Ken *********
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If I were to stay with a friend in Bangkok for a few days prior to going to stay with another friend in Pattaya, no need to do TM30 reporting in Bangkok, but when 2nd friend goes to do a TM30 report, do they take it from my arrival date in Bangkok?, because that would be after the 24hr deadline? Or would that scenario make me try to report TM30 in Bangkok on arrival?,
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The TM30 reporting system is primarily the responsibility of property owners or landlords. If staying with a friend in Bangkok before moving to Pattaya, the friend's TM30 report in Pattaya would typically reflect your arrival in Bangkok, but it may not be a strict issue if Bangkok doesn’t prioritize TM30 reporting. Issues arise when moving provinces, as the landing card could imply a late report if you're not reported within the 24-hour window upon moving.
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Brad *********
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It's not an issue when you check into a hotel as the hotels file TM.30s electronically for every guest. The TM.30 is only an issue if you own the property. You have to report every foreigner staying at your property within 24 hours. It's the owner's or manager's responsibility to file the TM.30 any they're responsible for the fines for failing to do so. So if you own your place of residence or allow a foreigner to stay at your place of residence (whether you own it or not) then you're responsible for filing the TM.30 within 24 hours.
Ken *********
Ken *********
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From what I've heard the 90 day report is only one way they are cross referencing wether a TM30 has been completed, and like you quite rightly said, by the house master (landlord). But if the landlord is not available it is down to the tourist to sort.
Guido **********
Guido **********
How to report?

As a foreigner staying in Thailand, you should prepare:

(a) a copy of your passport (photo page)

(b) a copy of the visa page in your passport and

(c) a copy of the departure card (or write down the number on the copy of your passport)

The landlord should prepare:

(a) a copy of the title deed of the property

(b) a copy of the rental contract

In case the landlord has outsources this matter to a property manager, a letter is needed giving authority to this property manager to report TM30 on behalf of landlord with stamps from the tax office on this letter.
Ken *********
Ken *********
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From what I can gather, Bangkok don't bother with TM30 reporting! Which raises the question, if someone was to spend sometime in BKK on arrival, & then go to Pattaya, aren't immigration at Pattaya going to say over 24 hrs late reporting, because all they have to go on is the landing card?, I wonder how backpackers deal with it coz they must be always on the move & at times outside immigration offices opening hours.
Steve *******
Steve *******
They dont bother about it in Bangkok. Its usually from when you arrive at a different province/imm office and then only if you're applying for an extention of stay
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Guido ****
. Maybe at Chiang Mai but plenty of, if not the majority, arent bothered, ie Bangkok
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Guido ****
. That's not correct, certainly at not many imm offices.
Ken *********
Ken *********
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Hi Steve, that is the point I am making, how do Immigration at Jomptien know when a person has (arrived) in Pattaya to start the 24hr clock ticking, if date stamp at airport was used it would mean that it could be days / weeks late doing TM30 reporting at Jomptien.

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