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Can the Thai embassy refuse a non-B work visa application due to late TM30 submission?

TM30 Form Visa Application Non-B Visa Thai Embassy Immigration Visa Regulations

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Can the Thai embassy have access to TM30 records and possibly refuse a non-b work visa application for late submission of the form?

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The Thai embassy does not have access to TM30 records, and late submission of the TM30 form will not impact your ability to apply for a non-B work visa at a Thai consulate in another country. Two different government entities manage internal immigration matters in Thailand and external visa applications at embassies.

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Willem ****

TM30 isn't even your responsability. It's a mandatory report for the landlord or host.

2 years ago

Willem ****

Only the last/current TM30 counts. No history check

2 years ago

Lloyd ********

@Willem ***

Still wrong, embassies and consulates have no way of checking any TM30 status. And, they don't ask for one.

2 years ago

Manuel *****

@Willem ***

so as I understood, the fine will be given to the landlord right? But the missing days between the last TM30 and the new one (around 10 days delay) can be a problem if I have to go to immigration and get my new stamp? Can they ask me where I was in those days?

2 years ago

Tod *********

@Manuel ****

no one will care about you having "missing time" between the two places you stayed 😕 you need a TM30 filed where you're staying when you apply for the extension (at most offices) That's it

2 years ago

Robert *******

@Willem ***

Wrong information: this is from the Immigration Act:

Section 77: Any person who fails to comply with Section 38 shall be liable to a fine not exceeding two thousand baht. However, if such person is the manager of a hotel, he shall be liable to a fine of not less than two thousand baht and not exceeding ten thousand baht.

มาตรา 77 ผู้ใดไม่ปฏิบัติตามมาตรา 38 ต้องระวางโทษปรับไม่เกินสองพันบาท แต่ถ้าผู้นั้นเป็นผู้จัดการโรงแรม ต้องระวางโทษปรับตั้งแต่สองพันบาทถึงหนึ่งหมื่นบาท

2 years ago

Willem ****

@Robert ******

Meaning a private host is treated different then a professional manager. The manager is getting a higher fine because its his job.

No word of any responsability of the foreign alien.

2 years ago

Robert *******

@Willem ***

YES, if you try to read it correctly, but for those who love to bend the rules claiming they are foreigners or aliens who do not understand Thai language or English it may change into the Immigration Is going to pay you 2.000 thb if you are not registered.

Enjoy life

2 years ago

Willem ****

Robert Lagas

Is there any wording in section 38 about a responsability of the alien? NO

And its any landlord or host not limited to Thai passport holders.

2 years ago

Robert *******

@Willem ***

I know English is difficult, but "Any person who falls to comply with section 38" means everybody, not only Thai passport holders

2 years ago

Lloyd ********

@Willem ***

Or the possessor, which is typically the renter.

2 years ago

Tod *********

nope, late filing a TM30 wouldn't affect you apply for a visa at a thai consulate in another country at all. Two different gov't entities, INSIDE thailand things are run by the Immigration Division of the Royal Thai Police and outside the country (at the embassies and consulates) things are run by Ministry of Foreign Affairs

2 years ago

Manuel *****

@Tod ********

so at the airport immigration they could ask me about the form or do they just check if I got the e-visa papers?

2 years ago

Tod *********

@Manuel ****

no they could not ask you about the form because you can't file a TM30 until you get to where you're staying

They will want to see the print out of your eVisa and your passport

2 years ago