Can I enter Thailand on an STV and later apply for a Retirement Visa?

Dec 25, 2020
4 years ago
Philip *******
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Is it possible to enter on STV and apply for a retirement visa after arrival?
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Many commenters agree that it is not currently possible to convert a Special Tourist Visa (STV) to another type of visa, such as a Retirement Visa (Non-O), while remaining in Thailand. The STV allows for a stay of up to 270 days with extensions, but it is explicitly stated that it cannot be changed to another visa type while in the country. Several users recommend applying for the Retirement Visa from the home country or entering on a tourist visa that allows for easier transitions after arrival.
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Venkat ************
Bring ,
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0 thb to keep in bank in Thailand for many months .show money
Hamid *******
but it takes anywhere from 3-4 months
Kevin ***********
Yes
Benjamin ******
@Kevin **********
How do you know? Can you provide more information?
Oliver *************
That would be 9 Months in the Future Yes When STV Expires
Ken ***********
JJ ********
Yes everything is possible
เอ็ดเวิร์ด *******
You would like to avoid a trip out of the country and coming back in and going to quarantine again get a retirement visa. But this is exactly what will happen if you don’t change and come in on a tourist visa
WB ****
Yes no problem. But I reccomend using a Visa service company. 100% guaranteed you can get retirement Visa
Ralph ***********
@Wb ******
nope!!!
WB ****
@Ralph ******
this is Thailand. Anything is possible. I arrive on a 30 day Visa exemption in March 2020 and obtained a retirement Visa without leaving the country. Don't listen to what the official rules might be because they are not always what occurs in real life. I'm telling you that if you that it is 100% guaranteed if you hire the right people.
Ralph ***********
@Wb ******
I did it all myself. Of course, if someone is concerned about the time and effort involved, it makes sense to use a visa agency. But as you say......."if" you hire the right people. The number of untrustful visa service agents in Thailand is high.
Isabel *******
It’s Thailand... you can do anything $$$$$
Steve *********
No you can not change that visa and if you do thay can remove you from Thailand it tells you this at the end of the application
Shannon ********
anything is possible !
John ******
Thailand cannot afford going into lockdown.....fact!

That's the reason why they opened early, that's the reason why theyre monitoring incoming numbers on a weekly basis. Thats the reason why there's now talk of 10 day quarantine and extending visas the extra 2 weeks so it doesn't turn off potential visitors on returning.

And those who've experienced this (prior to the "rona") that the Thai government thought they could survive without certain long term stayers, staying.
John ****************
I suggest he avoid the ELITE VISA - no stabiliy or guarantee...
David *********
Pascal. Tony is only express his opinion of what might happen in the near future. He never said this was factual. I myself agree with Tony
Tony ************
I wouldn't suggest coming to Thailand now as they are experiencing a second wave of the virus and I suspect we will go into lockdown soon.
Pascal ********
No real news so try changing subject ha ha , get use to that kind of .....
Pascal ********
Just copy the link talking about Pattaya and will see :)
Pascal ********
Oh yes google and farang forum are very helpful :)
Tony ************
@Pascal *******
your intellect speaks for itself...
Pascal ********
Source??
Tony ************
@Pascal *******
maybe you should try read more news, it's really not that difficult. Google is your friend...
Pascal ********
@Tony ***********
Talk without fact :(
Pip ************
@Pascal *******
My Mate in Pattaya says 1200 active cases and strong possibility Thailand will go into lockdown!
Ian *****
In theory NO. No extension allowed, but by the time it expires in 9 months. - who knows what rules will be
Steve *******
@Ian ****
The STV is for 90 days, extendable twice for 90 days per extention.
Ian *****
@Steve ******
.....yes = max 9 months
Tod *********
@Phi***
certainly you read the news when they were coming out with the STV (just like we all did) where they specifically stated that you cannot use an entry from an STV to convert to another visa type inside the country.

In fact it was announced at the same time they told people about the STV being available. :( Did you mis-remember or did you just not believe it?
Tod *********
David Broadfoot he's gotta GO there and get the visa issued in his passport, so he should get that STV voided so there's NO problem with someone looking at it as a valid (yet unused) visa when he goes for the 90 day Non-O from a tourist visa entry once he's here
Tod *********
David Broadfoot he could indeed go back get that 200 dollar visa voided and then get a 60 day single entry tourist visa.
Tod *********
as people said, you will get almost 9 months out of an STV, so hopefully this covid shit show is over and you can bounce out/back

OR

you can find an agent that will "grease the wheels" and be able to do the in country conversion to a Non-O visa from an STV..
Matthew *******
@Tod ********
just get tourist visa at the thai embassy In your country if you can. Then you can switch to many different types once inside. You can get a 90 day visa easy. More than enough time to figure out next step.
Tod *********
@Mat****
you did read that the O/P already HAS a Special Tourist Visa in his passport right? Or did you miss that critical fact? :O
Matthew *******
@Tod ********
sure I did but he’s asking if he should go change it at the embassy (somehow). My suggestion is he does if he can because of the limitations as we’ve all been saying. If he’s coming for max 9 months...cool he can come. If he wants to stay long term try to change to regular 90 day visa.

Have a good holiday season everyone.

Merry Christmas from Chiang Mai and Pai! 🙏🏼
JD ********
David Broadfoot The standard TR Tourist Visa is Not a 90 day Visa. It is a 60 day visa with option to get a 30 day Extension at Immigration for 1900 Baht
Philip *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Mat****
, thanks for the info.

Departing Taiwan is odd:

— The STV is very easy and given same day here. This is the one good thing.

— I gathered all my info for the retirement visa but overlooked the health insurance (I did purchase the health COVID insurance). Otherwise I have all required docs.

— arriving from Taiwan the retirement visa is only good for 90 days max (pending extension)

Without the health insurance doc, I walked out of the Taipei Thai embassy with a STV only.
Philip *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
sorry
@T**
did not see it.

Thanks for your help, seems Thai news changes overnight sometimes? Hoping to get the most current updates from this group.
JD ********
Try this thought. On the STV which is in actuality a 270 day stay by using the two 90 day Extensions. Overall cost is modest too. 270 days is a long time. If you arrived in January - your stay would be through September 2021. In this time it is quite possible that Thailand will open the border and neighbor countries could too. A bit of normalcy. No guarantee of this as you know. But if any degree of normalcy comes about you could go to Thai Consulates in Penang, Malasia, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam and elsewhere and get another kind of visa even an O Visa 90 days,, Tourist Visa, etc. Then Reenter Thailand. Next at the appropriate time apply for the next step. There has been little experience with the STV but it is possible you could set up a Thai Bank Account - prepare your financial requirements. Be ready to go.
JD ********
@Philip ******
Initial 90 day stay. Then two Extensions of 90 days available back to back
Philip *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@J*
great info, thanks!

Extensions are possible with STV?
Tod *********
@Philip ******
A Special Tourist Visa is good for a 90 day stamp when you enter AND you can get TWO additional extensions of 90 days eacch
Matthew *******
As far as I know you cannot change from stv to other visas. You can extend it up to 9 months total then have to leave.

Best is to get a regular tourist visa at the thai embassy to get inside and then will be able to change once inside.
Steve *******
Who knows. It's a new visa that's only been issued for about a month. In theory you could apply for a Non Imm O visa in country based on being over 50 years old before covid kicked in. Does get you 9 months in the country though.
Philip *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Ry**
, I already have STV for a Feb. departure. Would like to avoid an extra trip to the Thai embassy in Taipei for the visa change if it can be done after arrival in Thailand.
Bobby ********
Philip James. Apply for a retirement visa from your home country. You don't have to shift 800,000 baht to a Thai bank account. If you convert in country, you'll have to move the money.
Bob **********
@Philip ******
not at this time get a regular TV before you come
Ryan ********
@Philip ******
At this point it cannot be changed in country. If you cancel the STV and leave the country to apply for a new visa upon re-entry you’ll have to quarantine in an asq.

So if you qualify for the retirement visa I’d say do it now before you come and arrive using that visa not the STV.
Ryan ********
From everything I’ve read the STV cannot be changed to any other type of visa while in country. But who knows what will happen in 9 months (if you do the extensions).

Why not just apply for the retirement visa now?
Joseph *********
No. And no.
Michael ********
No, its specifically states cannot convert to other visa, if you intend converting you are better off coming in on TR visa. I maybe wrong But if you qualify you can get non O for retirement from embassy.
เอ็ดเวิร์ด *******
@Michael *******
You cannot convert from an S TV to any other type of visa.
Michael ********
@Edward *******
yes please read what i said
เอ็ดเวิร์ด *******
@Michael *******
I am agreeing with you
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