Can I apply for a Thai tourist visa while visiting Taiwan on a US passport?

Dec 20, 2022
2 years ago
Ann *********
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hello! has anyone tried to apply for a tourist visa while visiting taiwan recently? i have a US passport and currently staying here visiting family. and have a ticket to bangkok next week. tried to go to the embassy today and they turned me away due to my US passport and because i am not a taiwanese resident. will try to go back in a day or so and see if their mood is different when i apply again.
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A US citizen currently visiting Taiwan faces difficulties applying for a Thai tourist visa at the Thai embassy due to non-resident status. Responses from the community suggest that non-residents typically cannot apply for a Thai visa in Taiwan, and it may be more prudent to apply for an eVisa from the US. It's also noted that a visa is not strictly necessary for stays under 45 days if certain requirements are met. However, there are concerns about what happens if one is denied entry into Thailand, with options ranging from returning to the country of origin or to a neighboring country to apply for a visa.
Terary **********
You dont need a visa. If you plan to stay longer than 45 days you can get an extension or do a border run. You maybe asked to show proof of onward travel. The onward travel requirement can be fulfilled with a bus ticket or a refundable plane ticket.

The other two requirements are sufficient funds and proof of accommodation.

If you do not have extensive history of visiting Thailand, you will likely not have any issues with immigration.
Ann *********
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@Terary *********
- i do have extensive history of visiting Thailand :)
Terary **********
@Ann ********
You'll be fine. You know the game! Be polite with the immigration officer, have your 3 proofs, have a plan B
Ann *********
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@Terary *********
do you know what happense if you get turned away. do i have to get on a plane asap somewhere else or do they give me a window period to sort my travels?
Walker *********
@Ann ********
Once I was denied entry at DMK for "too many visas" and they were clear I was required to book a flight back to the country I had just come from (not home country.) Fortunately it happened to be Malaysia, so it was inexpensive to just go right back then came back in through a different airport without problems.
Ann *********
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@Walker ********
how recent was "once"? and which airports?
Walker *********
@Ann ********
I'm trying to find the best place to go get another tourist visa soon like yourself, and heard there are issues recently in Penang. Please let us know if you manage to get one in Taiwan or elsewhere.
Walker *********
@Ann ********
This was before covid back in 2019. It was a crabby immigration lady at DMK I later heard stories about that she has a reputation for making reasons to hassle people. Unfortunately I didn't have all my documentation ready which could have smoothed out the situation. While she said I was denied due to "too many visas" she seemed to presume I was working illegally and told me not to come back for a year, and only with a work visa. I read the stamp she put in the passport which actually said I was denied for not having
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baht cash on my person. However, since then I prepare extensively by bringing
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cash and tons of documentation. DMK/BKK are known for this entry risk if you have a lot of visas.

There is a "Fast Track" service offered by Thai Visa Centre you can pay for in advance to ensure you will have no problems on arrival. They check and approve your situation before you travel. I have used it and recommend it if you want to come through BKK/DMK. That's probably the best option if you're coming from Taiwan. (Note that other companies offer a cheaper fast track service but they don't do the preapproval, just the accelerated processing line.)

I have heard that entry through Phuket, Surat Thani, and other regional airports are also easier than Bangkok. Tourist island airports like Samui or Krabi also have a reputation for easy entry but the flight prices are higher.
Terary **********
@Ann ********
I think it's uncommon to be turned away. I believe the two outcomes; A) you are forced to go back to your home country, B) You are required to go to any other country. I think which outcome depends on the IO so you want to be pleasant regardless if they turn you away. If you are able to catch a flight to anywhere, you can find a cheap flight to a neighboring country and try your luck another day.

For example if they turn you away and you go to Vietnam, you can use that embassy to get a proper visa (last I knew they provided tourist visa to non residents, I have gotten one myself). At that point you can fly back, or you fly/bus to the border and try your luck at a land border.

Phuket airport is known to be more tourist friendly the BKK.

I doubt you'll get turned away, just be sure to have your 3 proofs. Before covid I had extensive visa history, never a problem.
Nigel *********
@Terary *********
you don't get any choice in the matter. It's up to your carrier. So you either go back to the country you came from, or, on rare occasions, home country
Terary **********
@Nigel ********
I have heard different experiences.
Frank-Steven ***********
As a US citizen, why not just do a eVisa (fully remotely) in the US instead?
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Nikki *********
@Frank-Steven **********
Currently in the middle of this process. I thought everything would be fully remote. Mailed everything in and received an email requesting that we come into their office in Bangkok. (We live in Phuket)
Frank-Steven ***********
@Nikki ********
Something does not add up here? Are you sure you applied for en tourist e-visa and selected to apply at one of the Thai consulates in the US? And now they make you go to some office in Bangkok?
Ann *********
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@Frank-Steven **********
I’m not in the USA though…. I think you have to be in the USA to apply online
Frank-Steven ***********
@Ann ********
I am not sure that is technically true. I think having permanent residency in the country you apply is the criteria. Although that does not mean that an individual at the consulate may look at it that way.
Ron *******
Non residents cannot apply in Taiwan for any Thai visa
Brandon ************
It's very common for an embassy to require you to be a citizen or permanent resident of a country to apply there, so it's highly unlikely you'll get a different answer on a different day.
Chris ********
@Brandon ***********
I am a US citizen but it now looks like I may spend at least several months in France before I go to Thailand. I had assumed that I could apply locally in Paris but now I am not sure. What do you think? Thanks
Brandon ************
@Chris *******
see if you can find their website and they may list if they have any restrictions
Ron *******
@Brandon ***********
France is more mostly Evisa application only except for Algerian, Monoco and some European passport holders with french residency.

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Phil ********
Will the Christmas season change their mood? 🎄

It shan't, I'm afraid.

Do have the 3 proofs:

-- Onward travel booking within 44 days

-- accommodation booking for the first few days

--- 20,000 baht or $ € ¥ £ in CASH

expect to be questioned, dress smart, be contrite & polite as you've had Covid extensions.

YMMV

good luck
Ann *********
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Thank you
Carl **********************
@Ann ********
correct, if you have too may stamps in your passport a tourist visa from an embassy won’t make any difference. Immigration would still deny entry. You would need to change visa type to a non immigration business visa for example otherwise it won’t make any difference.
Jackie ***********
@Ann ********
also, considering that the US doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent sovereign country, and doesn't have an official diplomatic relationship with Taiwan, you're likely to find it impossible to obtain a Thai tourist visa in Taiwan. But why bother? As a US citizen, you currently get 45 days in Thailand visa exempt, which can be extended in Thailand for 30 more days. How long are you planning to stay? Is it worth the hassle?
Ann *********
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@Jackie **********
I am unsure if immigration will allow exempt status when I arrive if they see my Covid extension stamps in my passport from during my time on a tourist visa during the pandemic . So I am trying to get an official tourist visa in my passport to secure my entry. But maybe it will be ok and they will let me come in for my exempt status.
Frank-Steven ***********
@Ann ********
You are assuming correctly. While a tourist visa may not guarantee entry, the discretion of the officer is much less when you come with a visa than in visa exempt.
Jackie ***********
@Ann ********
good question. I'd be inclined to think they'd be just as likely to deny a tourist visa for this reason as well.

Might be worth another post. ask if anyone has been denied visa-exempt entry because of multiple prior covid extensions
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