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What are the rules for bringing personal items and books into Thailand on a retirement visa?

Ken ********
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Wondering about bringing things - specifically after having a 1 year retirement visa starting in January theres some kind of time period for bringing in whatever without customs taxes etc.. 6 months? Going back to U.S. in May for a couple months and wondering if should bother as well (no need to tell me not too, I live here simply and know ). … BUT I have a whole lot of books actually to donate to an educational institute in Chiang Mai, several guitars, bike, and potentially other things I could put on some kind of pallet if it came to that. I’m on the West coast and could get to SF or Portland but I think there’s a place in NY? (not that I want to ship it there first) - if anyone’s done this and has good knowing advice … would be awesome !
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The post discusses the complexities of bringing personal items, including books and musical instruments, into Thailand under a retirement visa. It highlights the potential customs taxes and regulations associated with importing goods, stressing that items brought in may incur high shipping costs and varying tax assessments. Suggestions from the community include maximizing flight baggage for less valuable items like books and considering donation options through charities in Thailand. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding customs rules and potential costs before attempting to ship any goods.
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Ken ********
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Ok ok 😆 I think I’ll find a flight that maximizes baggage and get books over. With 2 acoustic guitars still thinking of shipping one well packed in a box - J35 style Eastman - it came from China originally can’t it go to Thailand reasonably?
Julane *******
Julane *******
We've already done it many times from USA and Europe to various Asian countries. But these times we were holding a work permit AND everything was used and tax free.

So for our retirement move to Thailand, we got lots of quotes to send our stuff from Singapore to Thailand. Prices were ridiculous even when we had already packed everything ourself. 27 boxes. No furniture.

It turns out that the quotes include the "extra" cost for customs tax. If we had a work permit, we would NOT need to pay this on our personal goods. But a retirement extension didn't get an exemption.

We couldn't get a breakdown, but it seems to be included in all the quotes. We finally transferred by land which was still quite high as they still needed to "pay" fees to border officials. It was by weight though so at least transparent. We carried about 250kgs by air when we were traveling back and forth...which was actually cheaper, all inclusive!
Lee ***********
Lee ***********
Books are very complicated actually, strict rules on the content and if educational. I once had a client want to send a library to Afica to a school, guess what, they wouldn't allow it. Other items had to have h&s certificates otherwise they couldn't go and electrical items tested and certified, it goes on and on, it becomes too much hassle.

Understand your best intentions, do alot of research first. 👍
Ken ********
Ken ********
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Maybe that’s the thing - it’s the books and they are charitable… maybe I can get CMU to cover as they are not available here and rare - if I can present them with a cost
Lee ***********
Lee ***********
I worked in freight services for 35 years, you can find a charity first to donate all to, then they bring in as charitable items, they will know the rules. If you want to bring in as personal effects then you need to catalogue the items and value for customs (not insurance)

Then find a specialised personal effects carrier. They will check and confirm everything with their agent in Thailand prior to shipping.

Costs have gone up immensely so I would image its cost prohibited and you would be better off selling in the US and make a donation instead.

Hope that helps.
Bob ********
Bob ********
Have to agree with others, a friend got a job, flew up to organise accommodation came back shipped of his stuff. Got hit with more taxes than the goods were worth, as the goods weren't on the way when he flew in the first time. And the goods were purely house content.
Kool *******
Kool *******
It used to be within 90 days from first stamping in, but that changed after covid. I do know it is not six months. You still pay shipping cost, and that goes by weight unless you have a full container load. Plan on over US$5000 just in shipping cost
Keith ************
Keith ************
I brought a guitar in by taking the neck off the body and putting it in my larger luggage. You can probably carry another one in without having to pay as I've heard many people say they've carried guitars in without being stopped. No guarantees, though.

But if you ship guitars in, you will pay.
Ken ********
Ken ********
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@Keith ***********
yes already brought my telecaster that way
Sean ********
Sean ********
@Ken *******
would take me several trips to bring my drums in that way. The suit case for the kick drum might give me away.😁
Stacey ****************
Stacey ****************
I contacted several shipping companies trying to bring over such items. It became real clear real quick that it was too much of a hassle and not worth the expense or headache.

I started listing things on Facebook market and was amazed at how quick things went even out in the country side of South Dakota.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
I don't believe there's any tax on books.

The other things, it's just not worth it. It doesn't matter what you find online, what the rules say, what you know the value of your items is etc.

The customs officers will tell you their value, and will tell you what you pay, or you don't get the items. Many times the value they state is going to be much higher than the item was new, and the cost to bring it in is going to make the cost to ship and pay the tax more than it would cost to buy a new one in Thailand.

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